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So many people here, who have since been proven wrong, were so eager to jump on this bandwagon as recently as last week. 

 

Now... crickets. 

 

Question for the serious people, like logic, whitewalkerNPC, and others -- when do you hold the people who lied to you, for three years, accountable? Or do they get a pass because truth doesn't matter when "ORANGE MAN BAD"?

 

Every bit of that memo was proven true, and proven to be anything BUT a nothingburger. 

 

The media establishment class covered for the coup plotters -- without bothering to do any due diligence of their own -- because they are paid assets. Not journalists. 

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And Durham and Barr both immediately issued rare statements disagreeing. And Horowitz agreed they know more, have more access. Horowitz also testified that there are only two options: either it was incredible neglect or intentional bias. 

 

You're wrong. 

 

Again.


You could save yourself so much grief if you just started thinking for yourself rather than continuing to believe the words of proven liars and manipulators who have led you so far astray. 

 

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"We don't make a conclusion about intent."

 

You're wrong.

 

Per usual. 

 

Oops. 

 

GarBear's having a tough week.

 

Man, does it ever get tiring being so wrong, all the time, and offering nothing of substance to anyone? Don't you just feel like a turd in the bowl who won't flush? 

 

Sucks to be Gar.

 

(He's so triggered now he's spamming his other threads with nonsense :lol: He'll be switching accounts to start posting some supportive things soon enough)

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You are a small man, with a tiny mind, who's been broken. You continue to prove it with each unhinged post you make under all your alts. 

 

You were all the way wrong on this topic. The whole time. Rather than admit it, you double down on it. Not out of love of country, but because you despise it. You are literally shitting on the rule of law, the constitution, and truth -- because you'd rather be "right" than honest. 

 

That's why you lost. 

 

That's why you'll continue to be embarrassed and continue to lose until you wise up, wipe off your chin, and get off your knees. 

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“Last month, we advised the inspector general that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the F.B.I. case was opened" - John Durham

 

 "Disagree with the way it was being spun in the media by the people you worship" - Incel Rhino

 

Nope - "we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions"

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

You are a small man, with a tiny mind, who's been broken. You continue to prove it with each unhinged post you make under all your alts. 

 

You were all the way wrong on this topic. The whole time. Rather than admit it, you double down on it. Not out of love of country, but because you despise it. You are literally shitting on the rule of law, the constitution, and truth -- because you'd rather be "right" than honest. 

 

That's why you lost. 

 

That's why you'll continue to be embarrassed and continue to lose until you wise up, wipe off your chin, and get off your knees. 

 

Obsess about my **** more, freak

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27 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

And Durham and Barr both immediately issued rare statements disagreeing. And Horowitz agreed they know more, have more access. Horowitz also testified that there are only two options: either it was incredible neglect or intentional bias. 

 

You're wrong. 

 

Again.


You could save yourself so much grief if you just started thinking for yourself rather than continuing to believe the words of proven liars and manipulators who have led you so far astray. 

 

 

.....GB.....he is quite the master of "convenient omission"...SMH.....

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14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

FY, since the establishment media didn't air a moment of it, here's the full hearing with the OIG and Senate Homeland Security: 

https://www.c-span.org/video/?467350-1/justice-dept-ig-testifies-origins-fbis-russia-inquiry&live

(worth watching Johnson's opening statement)

it was a rather short hearing as well.

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5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

He's a fraud. With nothing to offer but drive by insults. It's easy to ignore, and sometimes fun to make him spin out like this morning. 

 

Trump broke him and all his alts. 

 

 

...I have figured it out.....PPP has been infiltrated by Carville & Begala....you connect the dots.......

1 minute ago, Foxx said:

 

 

...."Bull" Durham looks like a nasty SOB...BUT......he'll be labeled a partisan hack....just wondering how the "labelers" explain why former AG Holder (Dem???) assigned many high profile cases to him as a US Attorney.....yup, poor Eric was duped..............

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hopefully, with Sperry's announcement here, people familiar with the report will be able to review and find out just what these revisions are. i know there should be a tool out there that would compare the two versions and be able to point out the differences. drawing a blank currently.

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1217845021858312192

 

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27 minutes ago, Foxx said:

hopefully, with Sperry's announcement here, people familiar with the report will be able to review and find out just what these revisions are. i know there should be a tool out there that would compare the two versions and be able to point out the differences. drawing a blank currently.

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1217845021858312192

 

 

"Beyond Compare" is just 1 of the tools that is available.

I think the larger challenge would be to procure copies of the various versions. I doubt anything but the most current is available at the source.

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8 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

"Beyond Compare" is just 1 of the tools that is available.

I think the larger challenge would be to procure copies of the various versions. I doubt anything but the most current is available at the source.

i downloaded the version that first came out so downloading the current one and comparing them would be no problem here.

 

thanks for the tool info!

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IG Report Proves Obama Administration Spied On Trump Campaign Big Time

 

Last week, President Trump triggered the left when he tweeted a Photoshopped picture that portrayed former President Barack Obama perched midair outside Trump Tower, binoculars and listening device in hand.

The liberal outlet Vox condemned the president for his “increasingly bad tweets,” before declaring “there’s no evidence the Obama administration spied on Trump.” Vox then regurgitated the false narrative that, while the FBI did surveil former Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page, “that didn’t happen until after Page left the campaign.”

 

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For years, conservatives tried to correct the record, noting that a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) order gave the government access to Page’s past emails and other electronic communications with members of the Trump campaign, but the mainstream media ignored this reality. That the liberal and legacy press continue to push this narrative now, following the release of Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report on FISA abuse, is beyond baffling, because the IG report established that the Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign, and the spying was much worse than previously thought.

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45 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

IG Report Proves Obama Administration Spied On Trump Campaign Big Time

 

Last week, President Trump triggered the left when he tweeted a Photoshopped picture that portrayed former President Barack Obama perched midair outside Trump Tower, binoculars and listening device in hand.

The liberal outlet Vox condemned the president for his “increasingly bad tweets,” before declaring “there’s no evidence the Obama administration spied on Trump.” Vox then regurgitated the false narrative that, while the FBI did surveil former Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page, “that didn’t happen until after Page left the campaign.”

 

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For years, conservatives tried to correct the record, noting that a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) order gave the government access to Page’s past emails and other electronic communications with members of the Trump campaign, but the mainstream media ignored this reality. That the liberal and legacy press continue to push this narrative now, following the release of Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report on FISA abuse, is beyond baffling, because the IG report established that the Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign, and the spying was much worse than previously thought.

Are they forgetting that the FB! twice attempted to obtain FISA warrants prior to actually receiving the one they did? They only received the one they did because they used the Steele Dossier to get it, per Andrew McCabe. 

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....sorry, but this is just NOT possible...Sleepy Bob turned over an impeccably clean organization to Jim Comey who CERTAINLY upheld Bob's mantra.....how else could the upstanding Bob be appointed Independent Counsel?....J Edgar is PO'ed they may sully his dirty label..........

 

Wray says FBI conduct surrounding Carter Page FISA warrant 'unacceptable' and 'cannot be repeated'

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

 

 

FBI Director Christopher Wray testified Wednesday that the actions taken by the bureau to obtain a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant against former Trump campaign aide Carter Page were “unacceptable” and “cannot be repeated.”

During his first congressional appearance following the release of Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s FISA review last year, Wray vowed to reform the FISA system by implementing “specific procedures and safeguards.”

“The failures highlighted in the inspector general report are unacceptable, period. And they cannot be repeated,” Wray testified before the House Judiciary Committee.

 

“I have already ordered more than 40 corrective actions to our FISA policies and procedures,” Wray continued, adding that he has “gone above and beyond” in outlining what “should be changed” and “can be changed” and can provide “accountability,” “rigor” and “discipline.”

 

“I do not think anyone has carte blanche to bypass rules, and I intend to make it painfully clear that is unacceptable at the FBI today," he added.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wray-says-fbi-actions-to-obtain-carter-page-fisa-warrant-were-unacceptable-and-cannot-be-repeated

 

 

 

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There are mountains of evidence in the FISA abuse scandal if you bother to look, search and investigate for yourself, while leaving your political sunglasses at home.

 

Now, if heads don't role within (you insert timeframe), we will know where justice truly stands in this country.

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FISA Court Blacklists FBI Agents Involved in Surveilling Carter Page

 

Good start, but the process still needs to be blown up. Simply barring some corrupt agents from appearing (until their review is completed with nothing more than token punishments meted out) does nothing to end the systemic abuses of this secret court hearing carefully-selected secret information.

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