Bangarang Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:29 AM, billsfan1959 said: Every silver lining has its cloud.... Expand The truth is a hard pill to swallow.
Luka Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:24 AM, Bangarang said: It’s only an issue because he’s not nearly as good. It’s easy to say he’s better than EJ but it’s still a pathetically low bar to set. Expand You do realize Andy Reid is the reason Mahomes is successful, right? Alex Smith? First round bust? Remember him? Or how about the last couple games with Matt freaking Moore? The simple folk on this board just can't seem to grasp there's a lot more to football than individual talent. Which is strange, because that's what makes football so great. 1 1
billsfan1959 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:35 AM, Bangarang said: The truth is a hard pill to swallow. Expand I have no problem with the actual truth...
Don Otreply Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:18 AM, Lurker said: Well, its nice to see that grade on Josh, but consider that Trapasso is a Bills fan and used to edit Buffalo Rumblings and contributes to the Buffalo News. Perhaps a bit biased? Hmmm.... https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-trapasso-b5a9a511 Expand It’s a small world, all these guys are connected in some way with other sports reporting organizations, not that he isn’t a fan, but that’s the world of sports reporters for the most part. A pretty good write up over all imo. Go Bills!!!
K-9 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:35 AM, Bangarang said: The truth is a hard pill to swallow. Expand That is rich coming from you. 1 1
Don Otreply Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:35 AM, Bangarang said: The truth is a hard pill to swallow. Expand Or maybe you’re just not quite there in your assessment. Could happen ya know. 1
Bangarang Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) On 11/6/2019 at 2:35 AM, Luka said: You do realize Andy Reid is the reason Mahomes is successful, right? Alex Smith? First round bust? Remember him? Or how about the last couple games with Matt freaking Moore? The simple folk on this board just can't seem to grasp there's a lot more to football than individual talent. Which is strange, because that's what makes football so great. Expand Speaking of simple folk, it’s pretty ignorant to say only one thing, or person in this case, is responsible for a QB’s success or lack thereof. Edited November 6, 2019 by Bangarang 2
Tesla03 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) lets just see how he progresses. its too early to tell. you cannot say he will be a franchise QB, and you can't say he is a bust Trubisky led his team to 12 wins, avg 220 ypg and threw for 20+ TD's and now fans are burning his jersey. Edited November 6, 2019 by Tesla03
Bangarang Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:37 AM, billsfan1959 said: I have no problem with the actual truth... Expand And yet, you do On 11/6/2019 at 2:39 AM, K-9 said: That is rich coming from you. Expand Care to elaborate?
Don Otreply Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:41 AM, Bangarang said: Speaking of simple folk, it’s pretty ignorant to say only one thing, or person in this case, is responsible for a QB’s success or lack thereof. Expand See my previous post above.
K-9 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:42 AM, Bangarang said: And yet, you do Care to elaborate? Expand No. 2
Bangarang Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:40 AM, Don Otreply said: Or maybe you’re just not quite there in your assessment. Could happen ya know. Expand not quite where in my assessment? What are you talking about? On 11/6/2019 at 2:43 AM, K-9 said: No. Expand Typical coming from you On 11/6/2019 at 2:43 AM, Don Otreply said: See my previous post above. Expand What about it?
Don Otreply Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) On 11/6/2019 at 2:44 AM, Bangarang said: not quite where in my assessment? What are you talking about? Expand Not gonna tell you, ? Okay, It’s about QB assessment, the reason we are posting in this thread, ya might be wrong, is what i’m sayin, Edited November 6, 2019 by Don Otreply 1
billsfan1959 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:42 AM, Bangarang said: And yet, you do Expand And yet, I don’t 1
Tesla03 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Imo if Allen doesn't have major progress by the end of next year and we still are a middle of the pack team/offense I'd really think about getting rid of Mcdermott and his staff and letting Allen work with an offensive minded HC that can groom him into a top QB. as it stands right now no one on this staff has experience with developing QB's. you can only get so far in this league with a conservative defensive minded HC. At the very least find Allen a top OC bc 8 weeks in and Daboll looks like he is really holding this team back. think about it this way. would you want Allen + New HC or Mcdermott + New QB. Edited November 6, 2019 by Tesla03
K-9 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) On 11/6/2019 at 2:44 AM, Bangarang said: Typical coming from you Expand Better to laugh at you with an actual response post. Your post just wasn’t worth the positive rep point. Edited November 6, 2019 by K-9 2
billsfan1959 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:50 AM, K-9 said: Better to laugh at you with an actual response post. You’re post just wasn’t worth the positive rep point. Expand You would think he would be in bed by now. Tomorrow is a school day. 1
The Wiz Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 11:54 PM, Hebert19 said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/grading-nfls-next-generation-of-quarterbacks-josh-allen-kyle-allen-rebound-gardner-minshew-struggles/ Not sure this has been posted but it seems someone looks at allen as doing better than the rest and pretty favorable overall. Guess the sky may not be falling. Expand I don't believe you.
LSHMEAB Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 2:35 AM, Luka said: You do realize Andy Reid is the reason Mahomes is successful, right? Expand No. I did not realize this nor do I find it even remotely close to accurate. Andy Reid is a very good offensive mind and the Chiefs have a ton of talent. Matt Moore and Alex Smith look pretty good in the system. Pat Mahomes looks like a transcendent player in the mold of an Aaron Rodgers. I think you're seeing what you want to see. Prior to Mahomes, Andy Reid NEVER once had a 30 TD passing season from a QB. This guy put up 50! There's no reason to spin the truth to fit a narrative as Mahomes has nothing to do with Allen.
Doc Brown Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) On 11/6/2019 at 2:35 AM, Luka said: You do realize Andy Reid is the reason Mahomes is successful, right? Alex Smith? First round bust? Remember him? Or how about the last couple games with Matt freaking Moore? The simple folk on this board just can't seem to grasp there's a lot more to football than individual talent. Which is strange, because that's what makes football so great. Expand Alex Smith and Matt Moore are decent game managers who's ceiling makes them Wild Card contenders at best. Mahomes instantly upgraded then from a WC team to a Super Bowl contender with some of the most ridiculous throws I've ever seen. Reid has a lot to do with Mahomes development but he''s so talented he'd be successful even if he started as a rookie with the '02 Texans. Edited November 6, 2019 by Doc Brown
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