T master Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Disappointing in a sense but we have all seen a lot worse being Bills fans !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Just now, T master said: Disappointing in a sense but we have all seen a lot worse being Bills fans !! some people get real sensitive about this on here...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Hall of Pretty Good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) I don’t think that there is a player in Bills history that is, undeservedly, remembered more fondly than Bledsoe. Everyone remembers those 1st 8 games like that was most of his time in a Bills uniform. After those first 8 games Bledsoe’s record was 18-22. He completed 702-1,213 for a 57.9% completion percentage. He threw 39 TDs and 38 INTs. Bledsoe was sacked 110 times in 40 games!!! He also lost 19 fumbles in those same 40 games!! He had 4 rushing TDs in that window. So to recap he had 43 total TDs and 57 turnovers!!!! That is an atrocious 2.5 years!!! He was NOT even an acceptable player after the first 8 games yet some people remember him as a star. Not trying to go down this road but Tyrod and Fitz were light years ahead of Bledsoe as a Bills QBs. After the first 8 games Bledsoe was no better than any of the other post-Kelly scrubs. Edited November 1, 2019 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t think that there is a player in Bills history that is, undeservedly, remembered more fondly than Bledsoe. Everyone remembers those 1st 8 games like that was most of his time in a Bills uniform. After those first 8 games Bledsoe’s record was 18-22. He completed 702-1,213 for a 57.9% completion percentage. He threw 39 TDs and 38 INTs. Bledsoe was sacked 110 times in 40 games!!! He also lost 19 fumbles in those same 40 games!! He had 4 rushing TDs in that window. So to recap he had 43 total TDs and 57 turnovers!!!! That is an atrocious 2.5 years!!! He was NOT even an acceptable player after the first 8 games yet some people remember him as a star. Not trying to go down this road but Tyrod and Fitz were light years ahead of Bledsoe as a Bills QBs. After the first 8 games Bledsoe was no better than any of the other post-Kelly scrubs. Agree 100 percent. Also, as I said above, his lifetime performance against winning teams was truly abysmal and indeed notorious back in the day. Edited November 1, 2019 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Trading a first for a immobile QB and putting him behind Melvin Fowler, tuten Reyes, Mike Gandy, Mike Williams can more than likely be chalked up to "irresponsible decision making" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 If Shane Matthews starts the 2004 Steelers game, the Bills make the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 7:56 PM, stuvian said: He was a decent starter who I'd rank close to Tony Romo or Phillip Rivers. Really?!? Bledsoe career 57.2 % completion 230 yards per game 251 TDs 206 INTs 77.1 passer rating QB B 60.1% completion 206 yards per game 195 TDs 155 INTs 80.7 passer rating QB C 64.6% completion 259 yards per game 386 TDs 185 INTs 95.5 passer rating Which of those 2 players is Bledsoe closer to?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 10:24 AM, Pete said: Drew sucked after his first 8 games, cost us a #1, and set this franchise back years. My friend was a waitress in Boston when Drew was on Pats, and Drew would continually stiff her, he tried to get her fired, was rude to her. If she ever hears the name Bledsoe, she gets so angry. Zolak was banging my friends roommate, so they all would ride home together. She said Zolak said Drew pulled that ***** everywhere. Ha ha The Bills used to have a trade account with Kelseys and Montana’s in OP. A lot of people were authorized to just sign for their food and drinks. Bledsoe went to the Montana’s on NF Blvd. with his family and ran up like a $300 tab (tough to do there). He was like “just put it on the Bills tab.” There was no tab there. He threw a FIT. Ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Really?!? Bledsoe career 57.2 % completion 230 yards per game 251 TDs 206 INTs 77.1 passer rating QB B 60.1% completion 206 yards per game 195 TDs 155 INTs 80.7 passer rating QB C 64.6% completion 259 yards per game 386 TDs 185 INTs 95.5 passer rating Which of those 2 players is Bledsoe closer to?? Does Dan Marino count as elite? Comp 59.4% Yard per 255 TDs 420 INTs 252 QBR 86.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: Does Dan Marino count as elite? Comp 59.4% Yard per 255 TDs 420 INTs 252 QBR 86.4 Yep I actually think that Marino and Rivers is an interesting debate. Edited November 1, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 all things considered he was the 3rd best QB I've seen in Buffalo since 1973 Kelly and Ferguson are well above 3rd place, Allen is definitely pending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, row_33 said: all things considered he was the 3rd best QB I've seen in Buffalo since 1973 Kelly and Ferguson are well above 3rd place, Allen is definitely pending Look above after those 8 games. Fitz, Tyrod, and Flutie were all better than Bledsoe. After 8 games was 18-22 and had 43 TDs and 57 turnovers!! For some perspective Tyrod was 23 -20 as a starter. He had 65 TDs and 21 turnovers. Tyrod won more, made more plays, and made less mistakes. He was hot for 8 games like Trent Edwards was. For some reason Bills fans give him WAY more credit than he deserved. Bledsoe was a bad football player by the time he got to the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 56 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Look above after those 8 games. Fitz, Tyrod, and Flutie were all better than Bledsoe. After 8 games was 18-22 and had 43 TDs and 57 turnovers!! For some perspective Tyrod was 23 -20 as a starter. He had 65 TDs and 21 turnovers. Tyrod won more, made more plays, and made less mistakes. He was hot for 8 games like Trent Edwards was. For some reason Bills fans give him WAY more credit than he deserved. Bledsoe was a bad football player by the time he got to the Bills. i would take Bledsoe over Fitz/Tyrod and the Rodeo Midget Clown any day i don't give two ***** what your stats say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, row_33 said: i would take Bledsoe over Fitz/Tyrod and the Rodeo Midget Clown any day i don't give two ***** what your stats say We are all entitled to our opinions. I could say Peterman is a good QB but what’s measurable would say opposite. There isn’t a lot to support Bledsoe being better than those guys as Bills. Maybe you could argue that he won more than Fitz but did so with superior talent. Other than that he was less efficient, made less plays, made more mistakes and was sacked at an alarming rate. Bledsoe had elite arm talent but his completion percentage is less than Fitz who we consider inaccurate. Fitz and Tyrod both averaged more yards per attempt as well so we can’t hide behind him throwing it more down the field. There just really isn’t much, outside of 8 games, that supports him being even okay. That’s like Trent Edwards. I’m always baffled when people think so highly of Bledsoe as a Bills QB. We look back at former Bills all of the time through a negative lens. “___ sucked, I can’t believe he started here.” People remember Bledsoe as a good QB. It’s odd because he wasn’t. If you stack up his Bills career against even decent starters (like Fitz and Tyrod) it isn’t even close. He honestly compares closest to EJ. EJ vs Bledsoe (After 8 games): 58.3% vs. 57.9% 6.4 YPA vs. 6.6 YPA 77.1 rating vs 77.1 rating 1.3333 TDs per start vs. 1.075 TDs per start 1.3125 turnovers a game vs. 1.425 turnovers a game That really is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Absolutely not a bust, although he didnt reach his draft day expectations/ceiling. He was a decent starting quarterback for like 14 seasons. Serviceable enough to contend for or win a championship if he were in the right situation. Bust, Im thinking Akili Smith, Jeff George, Jemarcus Russell, Vince Young, Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Tim Couch, Joey Harrington, David Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, row_33 said: i would take Bledsoe over Fitz/Tyrod and the Rodeo Midget Clown any day i don't give two ***** what your stats say Regardless of what happened in the 1998 playoff game against Miami, if I needed to win a big game, I would MUCH rather have Flutie at QB instead of a POS like the Brain Dead One. I would take Orton, Fitzy, TT, Kelly Holcomb, and Todd Collins too. JP or EJ? Tough choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, Rico said: Regardless of what happened in the 1998 playoff game against Miami, if I needed to win a big game, I would MUCH rather have Flutie at QB instead of a POS like the Brain Dead One. I would take Orton, Fitzy, TT, Kelly Holcomb, and Todd Collins too. JP or EJ? Tough choice. Flutie never won a big NFL game his entire career he crapped the bed with the 1986 Bears... the 1986 ***** Bears!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, row_33 said: Flutie never won a big NFL game his entire career he crapped the bed with the 1986 Bears... the 1986 ***** Bears!!!! True, but Bledsoe was legally brain dead after the end of September 2003. If you need proof, go back and watch the tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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