row_33 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 53 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: What does a lynch mob do? They disregard the law and normal procedures and go out and get their man and then precipitously hang him. Pretty much like what Adam Schiff & Company are trying to do to Trump. Yes, it's an attempted lynching. All of you SJW's with your twisted panties who can't take it for what it is are pussies. Dishonest pussies. they make bad marriage partners or so i've observed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, row_33 said: they make bad marriage partners or so i've observed Well, if you're in to S&M they may not be so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 U.S. envoy says he was told Trump wanted Ukraine aid to be contingent on probe of Bidens, 2016 election William Taylor, the senior U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, said in his opening statement to impeachment investigators that he became alarmed by secondary diplomatic channels involving U.S. officials that he called “weird.” By Anne Gearan, Rachael Bade and John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 No attacking this eye witness? Literally waiting for their marching orders to attack this guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Well, if you're in to S&M they may not be so bad. just trying to stay in my happy place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, Tiberius said: U.S. envoy says he was told Trump wanted Ukraine aid to be contingent on probe of Bidens, 2016 election William Taylor, the senior U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, said in his opening statement to impeachment investigators that he became alarmed by secondary diplomatic channels involving U.S. officials that he called “weird.” By Anne Gearan, Rachael Bade and John How is this confidential information getting leaked to the press, and is it accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: How is this confidential information getting leaked to the press, and is it accurate? It's all getting so old...only tibs who still keeps trolling for no other reason except being attention starved cares about this anonymous leak BS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: How is this confidential information getting leaked to the press, and is it accurate? Selective leaks from Schiff. Shaping a narrative — though that headline clears Trump, doesn’t hurt him since looking into 2016 is entirely within his rights as chief law enforcement officer of the land. TDS has broken so many brains they think this helps. It does not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Selective leaks from Schiff. Shaping a narrative — though that headline clears Trump, doesn’t hurt him since looking into 2016 is entirely within his rights as chief law enforcement officer of the land. TDS has broken so many brains they think this helps. It does not. Well they almost got him on 3rd degree collusion but will they get him on 1st degree Quid Pro Quo? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: The latest CNN poll finds that by a 50-to-43 percent margin, Americans favor impeachment and removal of President Trump, a new high in the CNN poll. A remarkable 45 percent strongly think Trump should be impeached and removed. Support for impeachment mirrors Trump’s support (or lack thereof) among various cross-sections of the electorate. Independents favor impeachment 50 to 42 percent, women by 56-to-36 percent margin and college graduates by a 56-to-37 percent spread (white college graduates favor impeachment and removal 51 to 42 percent). In a perfect distillation of Trump’s standing in general, “26% of white men without college degrees favor impeachment and removal, but [that] ... more than doubles to 54% among white women who hold four-year degrees.” Moreover, “50% say the things that Trump has said publicly about his handling of US relations with Ukraine are mostly false. Fewer, 44%, think the President is mostly telling the truth about it, with views sharply divided by party (86% of Republicans say his public statements on it have been mostly true, while 83% of Democrats say mostly false).” Which Democrats? This is a stupid people's argument I see repeated on the right a lot. The Democratic Party of 1900? a CNN poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Selective leaks from Schiff. Shaping a narrative — though that headline clears Trump, doesn’t hurt him since looking into 2016 is entirely within his rights as chief law enforcement officer of the land. TDS has broken so many brains they think this helps. It does not. 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Even if we're saying the 2016 part is legit and okay in what way does that magically make the Biden part okay? Did you read the article this guy's testimony does not look good for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Selective leaks from Schiff. Shaping a narrative — though that headline clears Trump, doesn’t hurt him since looking into 2016 is entirely within his rights as chief law enforcement officer of the land. TDS has broken so many brains they think this helps. It does not. The "investigate the Bidens" sounds like Schiff's "parody" stuff again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 52 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Even if we're saying the 2016 part is legit and okay in what way does that magically make the Biden part okay? Did you read the article this guy's testimony does not look good for Trump. Biden got dirty in the Ukraine as a part of the 2015-2016 buildup to spygate. He and Obama both were in the loop on everything being done, and Biden ran point in Ukraine (through Nuland) because it was his stomping grounds. He’s fair game for corruption he committed while VP. This line of logic that it’s about 2020 is not only baseless, it’s an attempt to thwart what’s coming from Barr — nothing more. 38 minutes ago, Doc said: The "investigate the Bidens" sounds like Schiff's "parody" stuff again. Probably is considering it’s second hand hearsay. But what do facts matter when a narrative is at stake? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Biden got dirty in the Ukraine as a part of the 2015-2016 buildup to spygate. He and Obama both were in the loop on everything being done, and Biden ran point in Ukraine (through Nuland) because it was his stomping grounds. He’s fair game for corruption he committed while VP. This line of logic that it’s about 2020 is not only baseless, it’s an attempt to thwart what’s coming from Barr — nothing more. Taylor testified that Trump told Sondland himself in a September 7 phone call that Zelensky must “go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself.” Because it's important to let everyone know he's opening this investigation....not that it has anything to do with that election thing coming up. Edited October 22, 2019 by Warcodered 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Taylor testified that Trump told Sondland himself in a September 7 phone call that Zelensky must “go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself.” Because it's important to let everyone know he's opening this investigation....not that it has anything to do with that election thing coming up. okay, cool. more hearsay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Taylor testified that Trump told Sondland himself in a September 7 phone call that Zelensky must “go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself.” Because it's important to let everyone know he's opening this investigation....not that it has anything to do with that election thing coming up. First off, it's second hand hearsay -- which makes it suspect. How many times in the past three years has this exact kind of "sensational story" fallen flat once the truth came out? 10 times out of 10? Secondly, Trump was elected in 2016 to get to the bottom of the corruption in the swamp. Three investigations into this subject are already ongoing, prior to this call. Getting Zelensky to go public with what was already in the works is not about his 2020 rivals, it's about "promises made, promises kept" -- his campaign plank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: First off, it's second hand hearsay -- which makes it suspect. How many times in the past three years has this exact kind of "sensational story" fallen flat once the truth came out? 10 times out of 10? Yeah but I might lean towards the career civil servant Vietnam veteran over the career Hotel Owner? How'd he get this job again?...oh right donated Millions to Trumps campaign but that swamp is looking crystal clear. Also I believe what I was saying is that this in no way clears Trump which it clearly doesn't. 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Shaping a narrative — though that headline clears Trump 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Secondly, Trump was elected in 2016 to get to the bottom of the corruption in the swamp. Three investigations into this subject are already ongoing, prior to this call. Getting Zelensky to go public with what was already in the works is not about his 2020 rivals, it's about "promises made, promises kept" -- his campaign plank. Yes because forcing a foreign leader to publicly confirm your following one of you campaign promises isn't abusing your power for your own political gain at all. Edited October 22, 2019 by Warcodered 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: First off, it's second hand hearsay -- which makes it suspect. How many times in the past three years has this exact kind of "sensational story" fallen flat once the truth came out? 10 times out of 10? ... im'a go with 12 times out of ten. Edited October 22, 2019 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: Yes because forcing a foreign leader to publicly confirm your following one of you campaign promises isn't abusing your power for your own political gain at all. There's no evidence anyone was forced to do anything. Zelensky denied it happened, and the witness you're quoting said under oath the Ukraine did not even know aid was being withheld. There was no quo -- and to date there's no evidence of any. So framing the question the way you are is already pushing a narrative rather than truth. Which is what Schiff wants you to do. But that aside, even if he was forced, which he wasn't, it's not about harming your political opponent when there are three open investigations into said political opponent. Unless you're advocating for the position that simply by running for office, you become immune from scrutiny or investigations into past misdeeds. You're not advocating for that, are you? Looking into 2016 is what Trump was doing. There's been nothing to suggest otherwise, including the transcript, witness statements, or reality. The only way it's about 2020 is if you completely omit from memory that there are active investigations into what happened in 2016 -- which Biden played a huge role. That's the reality. The version you're pushing is the narrative Schiff is trying to sell. It's fiction. And, out of curiosity re the bolded: did you have a problem with Obama's administration leaking to the NYT the counterintelligence investigation into Trump in October in a move designed to hurt Trump and help Clinton? Or was that okay? If that was okay, why was it okay when this is not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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