snafu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, bbb said: I'm glad you did. It's horrible. And, the sound is so muddy. My ears are not good, but I can hear the game on TV fine. Go into another room with the radio - and it sounds much like adults do in Peanuts cartoons. It's all crowd noise..........Somebody who used to work on the tech part said it's because of the simulcast. Yep. Awful. I'm sure my email is going straight to the "deleted" box. I don't know how many teams simulcast, but I've got the luxury of living in a place where the local team (Rangers) does a separate TV and Radio broadcast. It is a please to hear a proper radio guy do the game. Actually, the Islanders do it, too but it is hard to find the Islanders on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, snafu said: Yep. Awful. I'm sure my email is going straight to the "deleted" box. I don't know how many teams simulcast, but I've got the luxury of living in a place where the local team (Rangers) does a separate TV and Radio broadcast. It is a please to hear a proper radio guy do the game. Actually, the Islanders do it, too but it is hard to find the Islanders on the radio. What I find weird is that RJ was the radio guy (I think for a long time while Ted Darling was the TV PBP) - and yet he seems to have forgot he's on the radio at all. And, Ted Darling was the one (before the score was always on the screen) who would have an egg timer and went it got to the end it would remind him to give out the score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 hours ago, K-9 said: Speaking of Mittelstadt, here’s his second goal in as many games. Like the one above, this shows a level of confidence we haven’t seen here. Nice. That’s great to see. This is the Mittelstadt that had draft analysts calling him one of the top 3 prospects not playing in the NHL a couple years ago. He looks to be regaining some confidence, but I hope they leave him down in Rochester for a while yet. Make 100% sure he’s ready before you call him back up. I’m even fine with it if they leave him down there all season and son’t give him another shot at the Sabres roster until next year in camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: That’s great to see. This is the Mittelstadt that had draft analysts calling him one of the top 3 prospects not playing in the NHL a couple years ago. He looks to be regaining some confidence, but I hope they leave him down in Rochester for a while yet. Make 100% sure he’s ready before you call him back up. I’m even fine with it if they leave him down there all season and son’t give him another shot at the Sabres roster until next year in camp. I hope he stays in Rochester the remainder of the year. If he comes back up, I’m gonna call for JBott’s immediate firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Whoa! Preds were definitely struggling so I gues it’s not that surprising, but I still think Lavy is one of the better coaches in the NHL. David Poile’s usually not which to fire coaches. He must be pretty pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, bbb said: Does he give the score so that people listening on the radio have a clue about what the situation is? Nobody else does. If you are listening to the radio whether RJ is giving the score or not you will not know what is actually happening on the ice. I don't want to be mean-spirited but sometimes making a change in the booth is a good thing. Very often when there is too much reverence for the past it is to the detriment of the present. 1 hour ago, snafu said: Yep. Awful. I'm sure my email is going straight to the "deleted" box. I don't know how many teams simulcast, but I've got the luxury of living in a place where the local team (Rangers) does a separate TV and Radio broadcast. It is a please to hear a proper radio guy do the game. Actually, the Islanders do it, too but it is hard to find the Islanders on the radio. As you are noting there is a different skill set between TV and radio. These two different mediums don't really overlap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Whoa! Preds were definitely struggling so I gues it’s not that surprising, but I still think Lavy is one of the better coaches in the NHL. David Poile’s usually not which to fire coaches. He must be pretty pissed. And the Sabres kept ruff far how long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) And Tim Murray gave up a fortune right after this incident. Kane’s teammates throw his clothes in the shower. Kane then decides to have season ending surgery (he confirms this incident is what made him decide to do it then) during the Jets first legit playoff push since moving to Winnipeg (nor saying I blame Kane for having the surgery). Everyone in the world knew Winnipeg had to trade him and yet Murray still paid more than full price. I remember a quote from Jim Benning (supposedly the only other team in on Kane at the time), saying that he made a reasonable offer but as soon as he heard what Buffalo was offering he immediately pulled out of the trade. He said he wasn’t willing to discuss trading the caliber of players Buffalo was. Edited January 7, 2020 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Evander Kane is a talented player. However, this skilled and tough player has not always acted maturely within the locker room and off the ice. I don't believe that he is a bad guy but especially when he was younger this spirited fellow didn't know how to wisely handle himself off the ice. There are traps for individuals who because of their public and high profile line of work come under more scrutiny than other people. It's just the nature of the beast that can't be altered. It's not surprising that when you get older you become more mature and worldly. I think he has grown up a lot. However, his off ice spirit and exhuberance still isn't fully tamed. https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/sharks-evander-kane-sued-by-las-vegas-casino-over-unpaid-500000-gambling-debt/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 A spectacular goal by McDavid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 hours ago, JohnC said: If you are listening to the radio whether RJ is giving the score or not you will not know what is actually happening on the ice. I don't want to be mean-spirited but sometimes making a change in the booth is a good thing. Very often when there is too much reverence for the past it is to the detriment of the present. As you are noting there is a different skill set between TV and radio. These two different mediums don't really overlap. When simulcasting, the solution lies in just having the then play by play guy just call the game like its a radio broadcast only. Problem is, Dunleavy absolutely BLOWS at descriptive, informative play by play, regardless. He’s the worst hockey guy ever. Bad on TV, absolutely horrendous on radio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: now If Murray was still our GM he would have traded Luukkonen for some immediate help at the expense of the future. Our current GM is building up the organization so that success can be more durable. Player development may be a less glamorous and a slower process to the path of success than making a lot of splashy deals by shedding assets but in the end those expedient moves get you nowhere meaningful. Murray's Lehner deal still irks me. He traded a first round pick for a goalie that Ottawa wasn't going to keep. That first round pick in a rich draft year could have now been an entrenched second line forward. An accumulation of bad decisions has damaged this franchise. It's just so stupid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 13 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: And Tim Murray gave up a fortune right after this incident. Kane’s teammates throw his clothes in the shower. Kane then decides to have season ending surgery (he confirms this incident is what made him decide to do it then) during the Jets first legit playoff push since moving to Winnipeg (nor saying I blame Kane for having the surgery). Everyone in the world knew Winnipeg had to trade him and yet Murray still paid more than full price. I remember a quote from Jim Benning (supposedly the only other team in on Kane at the time), saying that he made a reasonable offer but as soon as he heard what Buffalo was offering he immediately pulled out of the trade. He said he wasn’t willing to discuss trading the caliber of players Buffalo was. My biggest knock on Murray was that as a GM he didn't have a vision on how to build a franchise. He made day to day transactional deals without adequately considering the longer term implications. He was too much of a tactician in a job that called for strategic decisions. He was more of a checker player than a chess player. He was the Sabres version of the Bills' Buddy Nix. He was simply out of his element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 13 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: And Tim Murray gave up a fortune right after this incident. Kane’s teammates throw his clothes in the shower. Kane then decides to have season ending surgery (he confirms this incident is what made him decide to do it then) during the Jets first legit playoff push since moving to Winnipeg (nor saying I blame Kane for having the surgery). Everyone in the world knew Winnipeg had to trade him and yet Murray still paid more than full price. I remember a quote from Jim Benning (supposedly the only other team in on Kane at the time), saying that he made a reasonable offer but as soon as he heard what Buffalo was offering he immediately pulled out of the trade. He said he wasn’t willing to discuss trading the caliber of players Buffalo was. It’s interesting that only Bogo and Roslovic, the player the Jets selected with the 25th overall pick in the ‘15 draft that Murray included in the deal, are the only two players still with the two teams involved in the trade. And they both aren’t very good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Mike Harrington of the BN gives his capsulation of the season. He points out that the schedule favors us because we have already played the better teams in our division (and mostly lost) with plenty of remaining games against teams we have done well against. He points out that the team's 5 on 5 play is solid while its PK and PP units have failed us. https://buffalonews.com/2020/01/06/buffalo-sabres-nhl-buffalo-bills-nfl-jack-eichel-josh-allen-news-opinion-2020/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, JohnC said: Mike Harrington of the BN gives his capsulation of the season. He points out that the schedule favors us because we have already played the better teams in our division (and mostly lost) with plenty of remaining games against teams we have done well against. He points out that the team's 5 on 5 play is solid while its PK and PP units have failed us. https://buffalonews.com/2020/01/06/buffalo-sabres-nhl-buffalo-bills-nfl-jack-eichel-josh-allen-news-opinion-2020/ If we can fix the special teams for the second half of the season and simply maintain our 5x5 proficiency, we may, MAY, have a chance to get back in it. Regarding 5x5, I was surprised to hear that Jack had more points than McDavid at even strength when we played Edmonton last Thursday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 14 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: Whoa! Preds were definitely struggling so I gues it’s not that surprising, but I still think Lavy is one of the better coaches in the NHL. David Poile’s usually not which to fire coaches. He must be pretty pissed. He was only their 2nd coach in team history 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 13 hours ago, JohnC said: Evander Kane is a talented player. However, this skilled and tough player has not always acted maturely within the locker room and off the ice. I don't believe that he is a bad guy but especially when he was younger this spirited fellow didn't know how to wisely handle himself off the ice. There are traps for individuals who because of their public and high profile line of work come under more scrutiny than other people. It's just the nature of the beast that can't be altered. It's not surprising that when you get older you become more mature and worldly. I think he has grown up a lot. However, his off ice spirit and exhuberance still isn't fully tamed. https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/sharks-evander-kane-sued-by-las-vegas-casino-over-unpaid-500000-gambling-debt/ I have said it since the trade that Murrays problems were Making the trades, it was that he always overpaid in them. He seemed to be someone who would get excited for a certain player and just run to the other team with a blank check telling them to fill in the amount. Everyone knew Buffalo was one of the only teams that would be able to trade for Kane and give up something the Jets could use for the playoffs at the deadline knowing Kane would not play the rest of the year. He should have been using that to his advantage and gotten alot more for what he gave up or gotten the deal done for alot less. The other players/picks that were given up could have been used as assetts in another deal later on. Getting Lehner was not a bad move either, but knowing that Ottawa had to dump one of them, should have been getting him for a 3rd or 4th with his injury history and still being an unknown commodity at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: I have said it since the trade that Murrays problems were Making the trades, it was that he always overpaid in them. He seemed to be someone who would get excited for a certain player and just run to the other team with a blank check telling them to fill in the amount. Everyone knew Buffalo was one of the only teams that would be able to trade for Kane and give up something the Jets could use for the playoffs at the deadline knowing Kane would not play the rest of the year. He should have been using that to his advantage and gotten alot more for what he gave up or gotten the deal done for alot less. The other players/picks that were given up could have been used as assetts in another deal later on. Getting Lehner was not a bad move either, but knowing that Ottawa had to dump one of them, should have been getting him for a 3rd or 4th with his injury history and still being an unknown commodity at this point. I agree with your post. Children act on impulses; GMs should not. My main criticism of the Lehner deal was not that he acquired him but what he paid for him. That draft pick in a rich draft year could possibly have been an entrenched second line player on our current roster. If you look at what Botts has accomplished in the past few years and consider the possibility that he could have started the rebuild process a couple years sooner this franchise would be in a much better situation. There are plenty of critics of our current GM. I'm not one of them. I think he has done a good job and put this franchise in a good situation in the very near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: It's fitting that a team from a third rate league would paraphrase such a garbage song in a tweet. Come on Cincy, no one deserves the punishment of having Smashmouth pop into their head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Glad to see him up, but now they’re right back to having 8 defenseman. (though Bogo can stay in the press box the rest of the season for all I care) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 I had a feeling that his firing was alcohol related. There were signs IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Umm... ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: I had a feeling that his firing was alcohol related. There were signs IMO. since practically nobody cares at all, the reason can be smugly held safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) WGR's Paul Hamilton wrote a column about Frolik who got his visa paper work approved and is ready to play. He will be on a line with Johansson and Sheary. Where he should be able to make a quick contribution is on our PK which has been lacking. And because he requested a trade from Calgary where he wasn't being given much playing time he should be motivated. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/frolik-practices-for-the-first-time-with-the-sabres WGR's Paul Hamilton noted that Pilut will be replacing McCabe in the St. Louis game because he dealing with an injury. The interesting question is will Pilut remain with the Sabres even when McCabe returns after the St. Louis game? I wouldn't be too surprised if very soon another defenseman is moved resulting in Pilut staying with the big club. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/pilut-hopes-to-improve-his-consistency Edited January 9, 2020 by JohnC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 hours ago, JohnC said: WGR's Paul Hamilton wrote a column about Frolik who got his visa paper work approved and is ready to play. He will be on a line with Johansson and Sheary. Where he should be able to make a quick contribution is on our PK which has been lacking. And because he requested a trade from Calgary where he wasn't being given much playing time he should be motived. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/frolik-practices-for-the-first-time-with-the-sabres WGR's Paul Hamilton noted that Pilut will be replacing McCabe in the St. Louis game because he dealing with an injury. The interesting question is will Pilut remain with the Sabres even when McCabe returns after the St. Louis game? I wouldn't be too surprised if very soon another defenseman is moved resulting in Pilut staying with the big club. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/pilut-hopes-to-improve-his-consistency Wouldn't be at all surprised if Pilut ends up in the lineup and Bogosian is back as the 8 with Miller getting into the 11/7 lineups when all 8 are healthy. Having 8 D up with the big squad makes it easier to run drills in practice. And leaves only 1 F trying to work through a line as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Mitts with his third goal in as many games. Baby steps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: Mitts with his third goal in as many games. Baby steps. Haven't heard anything about his play other than the couple of assists last week and then the 3 game goal streak. So no idea how the rest of his game is looking, but at least he's getting his confidence back which is a good 1st step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 10 hours ago, Taro T said: Wouldn't be at all surprised if Pilut ends up in the lineup and Bogosian is back as the 8 with Miller getting into the 11/7 lineups when all 8 are healthy. Having 8 D up with the big squad makes it easier to run drills in practice. And leaves only 1 F trying to work through a line as well. Dahlin, Pilut, Joki and to a degree Risto and McCabe make up a young defensive corps that can grow together. Without question the Sabres are not a complete team. But over the past few years the GM has built a solid unit with traits that emphasize speed and passing. The Sabres certainly have a credible first line with Jack. We have a checking and PK unit with the Girgs-Larsson-Okposo line. The major deficit on this team is adding some scoring forwards to the lineup to add secondary scoring. Although some people don't see it because of an accumulated frustration there is progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Paul Hamilton was on WGR talking about the Sabres. The most interesting comments were about the changing configuration on the PP. This is a 15 min segment. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/01-09-paul-hamilton-with-howard-and-jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I hope Frolik can help the PK. If they can get that unit inside the top 20, it should be worth a couple wins. It doesn't sound like much, but that would make a huge difference for any team that is in the middle of the pack. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Dahlin, Pilut, Joki and to a degree Risto and McCabe make up a young defensive corps that can grow together. Without question the Sabres are not a complete team. But over the past few years the GM has built a solid unit with traits that emphasize speed and passing. The Sabres certainly have a credible first line with Jack. We have a checking and PK unit with the Girgs-Larsson-Okposo line. The major deficit on this team is adding some scoring forwards to the lineup to add secondary scoring. Although some people don't see it because of an accumulated frustration there is progress. Montour likely fits in the plans for the next 3-5 years as well. Dahlin and Jokiharju will almost definitely be protected in the Seattle draft, but who the 3rd protected player will be isn't clear. My best guess is Montour, butcould easily see either Pilut or Ristolainen protected. They'll lose 1 of those 3 but should have enough around that so the loss of 1 D-man won't be devastating. Agree on the forwards. They need at least 1 more top 6 guy and really hope Botterill isn't waiting for one of Mittelstadt, Thompson, or Cozens to step up into that role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, JohnC said: Dahlin, Pilut, Joki and to a degree Risto and McCabe make up a young defensive corps that can grow together. Without question the Sabres are not a complete team. But over the past few years the GM has built a solid unit with traits that emphasize speed and passing. The Sabres certainly have a credible first line with Jack. We have a checking and PK unit with the Girgs-Larsson-Okposo line. The major deficit on this team is adding some scoring forwards to the lineup to add secondary scoring. Although some people don't see it because of an accumulated frustration there is progress. Progress from what? The mess this current GM created? Current projected points 83, guess that is a big progression from the 78 when he inherited the team 3 full offseasons ago. The forwards you highlight were all here prior to this current GM. I know we are stuck with him now, but damn I would hate to be your boss in anything when you call 3 years and 5 pt improvement progress...if you knew before they hired JBOTs 3 years in you were signing up for a 5pt improvement..you still in on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: Progress from what? The mess this current GM created? Current projected points 83, guess that is a big progression from the 78 when he inherited the team 3 full offseasons ago. The forwards you highlight were all here prior to this current GM. I know we are stuck with him now, but damn I would hate to be your boss in anything when you call 3 years and 5 pt improvement progress...if you knew before they hired JBOTs 3 years in you were signing up for a 5pt improvement..you still in on him? Nitpick alert: math errors are for the weak. Double check that point projection.? Sorry, it's a slow day for me today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: Progress from what? The mess this current GM created? Current projected points 83, guess that is a big progression from the 78 when he inherited the team 3 full offseasons ago. The forwards you highlight were all here prior to this current GM. I know we are stuck with him now, but damn I would hate to be your boss in anything when you call 3 years and 5 pt improvement progress...if you knew before they hired JBOTs 3 years in you were signing up for a 5pt improvement..you still in on him? I hope you don't take this in a mean-spirited way but I would not allow myself to work under you as my boss. I would move on and find someone who is more philosophically compatible to me and less mercurial. Again, I say this with no harshness but with the recognition that our trains are riding on different tracks. This GM took over with the intention of remaking the roster and restructuring the contracts that his predecessors mishandled. And that is exactly what he has done and continues to do. You, as are some of your snickering brethren, are unfairly conflating the failed regimes of the past with his tenure. Botts took on a challenge of bolstering the talent level of this floundering franchise. That was never going to be a quick endeavor regardless how impatient you are. When Pegula hired Botts he knew what the plan was. You don't accept the plan while I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, shrader said: Nitpick alert: math errors are for the weak. Double check that point projection.? Sorry, it's a slow day for me today. Okay..85..a point a game 2 minutes ago, JohnC said: This GM took over with the intention of remaking the roster and restructuring the contracts that his predecessors mishandled. Please let me know what contracts where mishandled? And what Botts has done to fix them? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Okay..85..a point a game Please let me know what contracts where mishandled? And what Botts has done to fix them? Thx There are at least a half a dozen contracts that will expire next year that will give the GM cap flexibility to bring on talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Okay..85..a point a game Please let me know what contracts where mishandled? And what Botts has done to fix them? Thx You can't fix a bad contract. You can potentially trade them out, most likely giving away additional assets to do so. That said, no one is taking Okposo off their hands. That's really the only bad Murray contract that remains. The rest have expired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Taro T said: Montour likely fits in the plans for the next 3-5 years as well. Dahlin and Jokiharju will almost definitely be protected in the Seattle draft, but who the 3rd protected player will be isn't clear. My best guess is Montour, butcould easily see either Pilut or Ristolainen protected. They'll lose 1 of those 3 but should have enough around that so the loss of 1 D-man won't be devastating. Agree on the forwards. They need at least 1 more top 6 guy and really hope Botterill isn't waiting for one of Mittelstadt, Thompson, or Cozens to step up into that role. Out of the three D that you named, I'd actually be happiest to see Montour go. And if they can get a better return in a trade for him than any other D-man not named Ristolainen then he can go as far as I'm concerned. That way you don't need to worry about protecting him. And by "return" I mean a forward who can skate and grind in the corners, create chances for his linemates, and plant himself in front of the net. Add two of those guys and at least one very reliable "finisher" to the second and third lines, and now we've got something. Do it by this time next year and I will be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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