3rdnlng Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) Let me get this straight. Everything that comes across the border and through our ports of entry gets examined to some extent. Virtually nothing that comes across our border between those ports of entry gets examined. How can anyone claim that the problem is mainly at the ports of entry when we are not effectively controlling the open areas? Just because more contraband is found at the ports of entry doesn't mean that 10x that amount isn't coming across our open areas. What a ***** up conclusion. Edited March 7, 2019 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Let me get this straight. Everything that comes across the border and through our ports of entry gets examined to some extent. Virtually nothing that comes across our border between those ports of entry gets examined. How can anyone claim that the problem is mainly at the ports of entry when we are not effectively controlling the open areas? Just because more contraband is found at the ports of entry doesn't mean that 10x that amount isn't coming across our open areas. What a ***** up conclusion. Yep. I don't know what the internal analysis actually is...but you never see it portrayed publicly as anything that makes a lick of sense. Basically, everyone argues a multivariable equation as though it's a single-variable problem. I'm not at all sure that anyone has any real idea how many people cross the southern border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 17 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Let me get this straight. Everything that comes across the border and through our ports of entry gets examined to some extent. Virtually nothing that comes across our border between those ports of entry gets examined. How can anyone claim that the problem is mainly at the ports of entry when we are not effectively controlling the open areas? Just because more contraband is found at the ports of entry doesn't mean that 10x that amount isn't coming across our open areas. What a ***** up conclusion. they are guessing at the numbers they have a budget to protect and try to inflate each year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: they are guessing at the numbers they have a budget to protect and try to inflate each year That doesn't make sense and is not germane to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 John Kelly speaks! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/us/politics/john-kelly-trump-kushner.html Obviously he wants nothing to do with the policy of putting children in cages! Quote Mr. Kelly defended the utility of the NATO alliance, which Mr. Trump has often criticized as an unfair financial drain on the United States. On a wall at the border with Mexico, Mr. Kelly said that there were specific areas where it could be effective but constructing one “from sea to shining sea” was a “waste of money.” The issuance of the zero-tolerance policy for border crossings that resulted in family separations “came as a surprise” to him and to other officials, Mr. Kelly said, defending his replacement as secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Kirstjen Nielsen, from criticism. He appeared to place most of the blame on the former attorney general, Jeff Sessions, who announced the policy. Of people crossing the border who are apprehended, Mr. Kelly contradicted the president. “They’re overwhelmingly not criminals — they’re people coming up here for economic” purposes. Mr. Trump has regularly portrayed immigrants crossing at the southern border as dangerous lawbreakers. 17 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Let me get this straight. Everything that comes across the border and through our ports of entry gets examined to some extent. Virtually nothing that comes across our border between those ports of entry gets examined. How can anyone claim that the problem is mainly at the ports of entry when we are not effectively controlling the open areas? Just because more contraband is found at the ports of entry doesn't mean that 10x that amount isn't coming across our open areas. What a ***** up conclusion. You just lack a basic understanding of how transportation works, I guess. Points of entry are usually roads, right? You understand (Probably not because you are a stupid f'n idiot) that trucks carry lots of stuff and that a person walking through the f'n desert probably doesn't? Ok, so now a quiz: 1) A truck going through a point of entry can do which of the following? a) Carry more than a person b) Hide more contraband than a person c) Pass through the border carrying drugs d) all of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: That doesn't make sense and is not germane to the discussion. you asked, never mind.... they basically make up their numbers, they can't justify them before any kind of objective audit, let alone a hostile one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: John Kelly speaks! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/us/politics/john-kelly-trump-kushner.html Obviously he wants nothing to do with the policy of putting children in cages! You just lack a basic understanding of how transportation works, I guess. Points of entry are usually roads, right? You understand (Probably not because you are a stupid f'n idiot) that trucks carry lots of stuff and that a person walking through the f'n desert probably doesn't? Ok, so now a quiz: 1) A truck going through a point of entry can do which of the following? a) Carry more than a person b) Hide more contraband than a person c) Pass through the border carrying drugs d) all of the above HA HA Gator, you are about as dumb of a ***** that exists. Texas, for example has 29 official guarded points of entry. There are a thousand ways to get across the border with or without a vehicle and basically escape detection. Barriers would prevent that. That right there completely blows up your asinine premise. Edited March 7, 2019 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: HA HA Gator, you are about as dumb of a ***** that exists. HA HA Gator, you are about as dumb of a ***** that exists. HA HA Gator, you are about as dumb of a ***** that exists. Normally, you'd be an idiot for repeating yourself. But in this case, you're point can't be stressed enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Normally, you'd be an idiot for repeating yourself. But in this case, you're point can't be stressed enough. Thanks for the complement. I had my hard drive replaced recently and it's acting as ***** up as HA HA Gator. Edited March 7, 2019 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Thanks for the complement. I had my hard drive replaced recently and it's acting as ***** up as HA HA Gator. Thanks for the complement. I had my hard drive replaced recently and it's acting as ***** up as HA HA Gator. Now you're an idiot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Migrants journey north can be perilous: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/truck-roll-over-in-mexico-kills-at-least-25/ar-BBUvPdF?ocid=HPDHP17 At least 25 migrants from Central America were killed while 30 or so were injured in a rollover accident in Mexico as they were being transported north in a container attached to a pickup truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 @The_Dude https://www.apnews.com/ba6c2bc1fa024393801131bfbaa9cd89 Military pensions to be raided to fund the stupid wall!! What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KRC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: @The_Dude https://www.apnews.com/ba6c2bc1fa024393801131bfbaa9cd89 Military pensions to be raided to fund the stupid wall!! What? You didn't actually read the article, did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Tiberius said: @The_Dude https://www.apnews.com/ba6c2bc1fa024393801131bfbaa9cd89 Military pensions to be raided to fund the stupid wall!! What? HAHA Gator, you are the master of the lie. Do you not read what you post? WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon is planning to tap $1 billion in leftover funds from military pay and pension accounts to help President Donald Trump pay for his long-sought border wall, a top Senate Democrat said Thursday. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., told The Associated Press, “It’s coming out of military pay and pensions. $1 billion. That’s the plan.” Durbin said the funds are available because Army recruitment is down and a voluntary early military retirement program is being underutilized. The development comes as Pentagon officials are seeking to minimize the amount of wall money that would come from military construction projects that are so cherished by lawmakers. Durbin said, “Imagine the Democrats making that proposal — that for whatever our project is, we’re going to cut military pay and pensions.” Durbin, the top Democrat on the Appropriations panel for the Pentagon, was among a bipartisan group of lawmakers who met with Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan on Thursday morning. The Pentagon is planning to transfer money from various accounts into a fund dedicated to drug interdiction, with the money then slated to be redirected for border barriers and other purposes. Edited March 8, 2019 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, KRC said: You didn't actually read the article, did you? In fairness, the author did go out of his way to not highlight that the money is not being used, and that it takes money away from no one in the military - through the excessive and outright false statements by Durbin. Edited March 8, 2019 by Koko78 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon is planning to tap $1 billion in leftover funds from military pay and pension accounts to help President Donald Trump pay for his long-sought border wall, a top Senate Democrat said Thursday. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., told The Associated Press, “It’s coming out of military pay and pensions. $1 billion. That’s the plan.” Durbin said the funds are available because Army recruitment is down and a voluntary early military retirement program is being underutilized. The development comes as Pentagon officials are seeking to minimize the amount of wall money that would come from military construction projects that are so cherished by lawmakers. Durbin said, “Imagine the Democrats making that proposal — that for whatever our project is, we’re going to cut military pay and pensions.” Durbin, the top Democrat on the Appropriations panel for the Pentagon, was among a bipartisan group of lawmakers who met with Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan on Thursday morning. The Pentagon is planning to transfer money from various accounts into a fund dedicated to drug interdiction, with the money then slated to be redirected for border barriers and other purposes. In gatorman's defense, that's a dishonest article quoting Durban being dishonest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: In gatorman's defense, that's a dishonest article quoting Durban being dishonest. And you know this how? I'm being rhetorical. HAHA Gator said this: "Military pensions to be raided to fund the stupid wall!! What?" It was a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Speaking of liars lying (or being too dumb to know their ass from a doorknob) He still takes Ed Buck's money though. Because Ted Lieu is a man of "honor". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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