Thurmal34 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 We incarcerate 25% of the world’s prison population. We represent less that 1/12 of the world’s population. make sense? thank god we can afford it. Would much rather invest in keeping the population down than raising them up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thurmal34 Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 I usually flash a squirrel in a car when I don’t want to talk about white supremacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Getting an early start on New Years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: We incarcerate 25% of the world’s prison population. We represent less that 1/12 of the world’s population. make sense? thank god we can afford it. Would much rather invest in keeping the population down than raising them up! Is the other 75% of the world's prison population incarcerated too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: We incarcerate 25% of the world’s prison population. We represent less that 1/12 of the world’s population. make sense? thank god we can afford it. Would much rather invest in keeping the population down than raising them up! Well that is retarded. Did you honestly think you were making a point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 And people wonder why Christine McKeller gets so much attention. Uh,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 If we did more to help children in bad homes we would really reduce the amount of crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: If we did more to help children in bad homes we would really reduce the amount of crime This is a fairly astute observation. Too bad the OP was nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: This is a fairly astute observation. Too bad the OP was nonsense. It's not an astute observation, because there's not much that can be done to help them. There is no substitute for a strong and moral nuclear family in a child's upbringing, and the existence of such a unit is entirely the responsibility of the adults in the household. Further, the outgrowth of fatherless families, spurred on by the legacy of Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" programs, lends itself to poor outcomes. IE. the "help" has exacerbated the problem. Edited December 31, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: It's not an astute observation, because there's not much that can be done to help them. There is no substitute for a strong and moral nuclear family in a child's upbringing, and the existence of such a unit is entirely the responsibility of the adults in the household. Further, the outgrowth of fatherless families, spurred on by the legacy of Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" programs, lends itself to poor outcomes. IE. the "help" has exacerbated the problem. I agree that a strong morally centered family is the best thing to hope for but just does not happen in a lot of instances and it is not just a minority problem. A father can be great at professing "thou shall not steal" but not cover the bases in other respects. A cousin grew up in a rural area where the rule was anything goes as long as you "don't hurt somebody." The only problem with that was they considered things such as arson OK because in theory the person would wake up and run out of the house before anybody got burned. You also don't hear anything in church about diddling your brother or sister but it sure would be good for mom and dad to cover that base before puberty so an incident does not happen at age 14 when the parents are out and the kids are home with a bottle of Jack Daniels sitting easily to get to by the kids. It would be nice if every father was like Mike Brady but even in the better homes dad does not fully cover what needs to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I agree that a strong morally centered family is the best thing to hope for but just does not happen in a lot of instances and it is not just a minority problem. A father can be great at professing "thou shall not steal" but not cover the bases in other respects. A cousin grew up in a rural area where the rule was anything goes as long as you "don't hurt somebody." The only problem with that was they considered things such as arson OK because in theory the person would wake up and run out of the house before anybody got burned. You also don't hear anything in church about diddling your brother or sister but it sure would be good for mom and dad to cover that base before puberty so an incident does not happen at age 14 when the parents are out and the kids are home with a bottle of Jack Daniels sitting easily to get to by the kids. It would be nice if every father was like Mike Brady but even in the better homes dad does not fully cover what needs to be addressed. Weird run-on sentences aside, what's your point? TYTT stated that adults need to be responsible and you respond with...some adults aren't that responsible? Also, Leviticus 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: I agree that a strong morally centered family is the best thing to hope for but just does not happen in a lot of instances and it is not just a minority problem. No, it's not just a minority problem; but those communities do have the highest rate of fatherlessness, and it's not coincidental that fatherlessness has strong ties to poverty (poverty being linked strongly to criminality). The 2013 US Census reported that 72% of blacks, 67% of native Americans, and 53% of Hispanics were born out of wedlock. (29% for whites, and 17% for Asians); and it's growing in all communities. This is a massive problem. 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (5x the national average, from the US census) 90% of homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. (32x the national average, from the US census) 85% of all children who demonstrate behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. (20x the national average, from the CDC) 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (9x the national average, from the National Principal's Association Report) 70% of youths in state operated institutions come from fatherless homes. (9x the national average, from the US Dept. of Justice) 85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes. (20x the national average, from a Georgia and Texas joint Dept. of Corrections study) This list is by no means comprehensive. Quote A father can be great at professing "thou shall not steal" but not cover the bases in other respects. A cousin grew up in a rural area where the rule was anything goes as long as you "don't hurt somebody." The only problem with that was they considered things such as arson OK because in theory the person would wake up and run out of the house before anybody got burned. You also don't hear anything in church about diddling your brother or sister but it sure would be good for mom and dad to cover that base before puberty so an incident does not happen at age 14 when the parents are out and the kids are home with a bottle of Jack Daniels sitting easily to get to by the kids. It would be nice if every father was like Mike Brady but even in the better homes dad does not fully cover what needs to be addressed. Even in situations where you're dealing with lousy parenting, outcomes are still better in nuclear two parent families. As an example, a Columbia University study found children living in two parent families but having poor father relationships were 68% more likely to engage in risky behavior (smoking, drinking, drugs) when compared to all teens in two parent households. Teens living fatherless households were 30% more likely to engage is such behavior than even those. No, every father is not Mike Brady; but just being there gives your kids a leg up. Again, there is nothing that can replace a nuclear two parent home in a child's upbringing. Nothing. Edited December 31, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: There is no substitute for a strong and moral nuclear family 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Weird run-on sentences aside, what's your point? TYTT stated that adults need to be responsible and you respond with...some adults aren't that responsible? Also, Leviticus 18. Quite a number of adults are not responsible and that is the point. And saying that they should be responsible does not get the job done in the trailer park nor the cup de sac. i go to church but would readily admit that I would strike out on a Bible themed Jeopardy program and so would most others here. I doubt most would know the Leviticus reference without looking up and that in its self is part of the problem if you believe that the Bible should be the moral center of our society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Quite a number of adults are not responsible and that is the point. And saying that they should be responsible does not get the job done in the trailer park nor the cup de sac. i go to church but would readily admit that I would strike out on a Bible themed Jeopardy program and so would most others here. I doubt most would know the Leviticus reference without looking up and that in its self is part of the problem if you believe that the Bible should be the moral center of our society. The point is, that there is nothing that can replace that responsibility. Their choosing to be irresponsible and selfish will lead to worse outcomes for their children. Edited December 31, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: The picture would have been better if the "daughter" was 7 months along like "mom." Or lose that top for an athletic bra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Quite a number of adults are not responsible and that is the point. And saying that they should be responsible does not get the job done in the trailer park nor the cup de sac. i go to church but would readily admit that I would strike out on a Bible themed Jeopardy program and so would most others here. I doubt most would know the Leviticus reference without looking up and that in its self is part of the problem if you believe that the Bible should be the moral center of our society. My point with the reference was that there are many churches where you do hear it, when you claimed that you don't. The idea that Christianity or the Bible have nothing to offer in this situation is laughable at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: The point is, that there is nothing that can replace that responsibility. Their choosing to be irresponsible and selfish will lead to worse outcomes for their children. And with that statement you are missing what is taking place in society. Telling me that "nothing can replace responsibility" only works for people who already believe in that concept. How do you get the horse to the trough for those who believe in letting people do what ever they want to do even if it is bad for the person in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: My point with the reference was that there are many churches where you do hear it, when you claimed that you don't. The idea that Christianity or the Bible have nothing to offer in this situation is laughable at best. It's not a matter of hearing it but a matter of remembering it which most people here are guilty of. When I say "if you believe that the Bible should be the moral center of society" it is not a matter of people that are already inclined to follow it but people who have no exposure to it or have been conditioned to believe that religion is bad therefore the Bible is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 35 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: And with that statement you are missing what is taking place in society. Telling me that "nothing can replace responsibility" only works for people who already believe in that concept. No, I am not missing what is taking place in society. I am lamenting it, because the healthy family unit is the foundational building block of intergenerational success, wealth building, and raising well adjusted children. That individuals are selfishly rejecting it in favor of instant gratification hedonism doesn't degrade it's value or necessity, but rather reinforces it with volumes of data. How do you get the horse to the trough for those who believe in letting people do what ever they want to do even if it is bad for the person in question? The only thing that works: social Darwinism. Make the chains of poverty so unbearable to live under that it drives better decision making out of fear. Quit making financial incentives which drive single parent families. Shame people who are on the public dole. Dismantle the welfare state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: No, I am not missing what is taking place in society. I am lamenting it, because the healthy family unit is the foundational building block of intergenerational success, wealth building, and raising well adjusted children. That individuals are selfishly rejecting it in favor of instant gratification hedonism doesn't degrade it's value or necessity, but rather reinforces it with volumes of data. The only thing that works: social Darwinism. Make the chains of poverty so unbearable to live under that it drives better decision making out of fear. Quit making financial incentives which drive single parent families. Shame people who are on the public dole. Dismantle the welfare state. I don't disagree with you but do believe that only partially addresses the problem. Many solve the problem of unbearable poverty by turning to crime. I have a cousin that lives not very far from the new casino in the Finger Lakes and he has observed more obvious theft (things missing that he knows he did not misplace) in the year and change that the casino has been open than he has in the few decades prior to that casino. He has too many things to put it all in one building and keep under lock and key. For that matter locks, walls, and fences only keep the honest man honest. I hear plenty of stories of fences pulled down, cameras painted over, and panels of pole barns torn off so thieves can ply their trade. Back to the casino that is a cancer to many that hope to solve their money problems by winning money then when their meager paycheck is gone they turn to theft to recover the lost paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, RochesterRob said: I don't disagree with you but do believe that only partially addresses the problem. Many solve the problem of unbearable poverty by turning to crime. I have a cousin that lives not very far from the new casino in the Finger Lakes and he has observed more obvious theft (things missing that he knows he did not misplace) in the year and change that the casino has been open than he has in the few decades prior to that casino. He has too many things to put it all in one building and keep under lock and key. For that matter locks, walls, and fences only keep the honest man honest. I hear plenty of stories of fences pulled down, cameras painted over, and panels of pole barns torn off so thieves can ply their trade. Back to the casino that is a cancer to many that hope to solve their money problems by winning money then when their meager paycheck is gone they turn to theft to recover the lost paycheck. Punishing criminals and pulling them out of civilized society and fierce protection of the Second Amendment is the other part of the solution. A society of laws necessitates a prison population for those who refuse to live under them, and demands that individuals be able to arm themselves to protect themselves, their families, and their property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 WHAT THE ***** IS HAPPENING HERE?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Paulus said: WHAT THE ***** IS HAPPENING HERE?! Settle down, Beavis. You were never going to be the biggest asshat here, no matter how hard you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Settle down, Beavis. You were never going to be the biggest asshat here, no matter how hard you tried. But he does get a well deserved participation trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Thris thread is weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Thank the lord Barron Trump is growing up in such a strong and structured family unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, peace out said: Thank the lord Barron Trump is growing up in such a strong and structured family unit All his brothers and sisters have different mommies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: All his brothers and sisters have different mommies. As long as they have the same father nothing else matters Alpha for lyfe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, Tiberius said: All his brothers and sisters have different mommies. All three baby mommas look better than anything you've ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 minute ago, /dev/null said: All three baby mommas look better than anything you've ever had I dated a girl from Thailand you would of been jealous of. She was so hot. Marla Maples is beautiful, but I don't like the other two at all. Trump banged Karen McDougal, and she has no equal! In the day she was hottest ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I dated a girl from Thailand you would of been jealous of. She was so hot. Marla Maples is beautiful, but I don't like the other two at all. Trump banged Karen McDougal, and she has no equal! In the day she was hottest ever. Ain't no asians in west Virginia. Prostitutes don't count as girlfriends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, westside said: Ain't no asians in west Virginia. Prostitutes don't count as girlfriends. Even if I paid her to say "me love it long time?" See, love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Even if I paid her to say "me love it long time?" See, love! That's fake. Just like your identity on this sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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