Irv Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 3:15 PM, dave mcbride said: If you think McCown has had anything but a below-average arm these past five seasons, I don't know what to tell you. The guy is ancient but a decent backup nonetheless. (I'm not talking about the McCown of 2002, by the way; I'm talking about the guy we've repeatedly faced in recent years.) Orton actually has better career stats than Fitz. He was 42-40 as a starter; Fitz is 50-75. Orton also has a higher career passer rating, but only by a tenth of a point. Fitz has been goosing his rating stats these last few years, though; the new passing rules help. By the end of his career Orton was flinching on every passing play. He'd had enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/16/2018 at 10:34 PM, TigerJ said: Given that Barkley is much younger and was far more effective in his start, it would be hard to imagine Mc'dermott preferring Derek Anderson. ..which would redefine asinine.......McBeane begged Anderson to "come off the beach", bailing his butt out as a favor for the huge QB gaffe.......thinking Peterman's "meteoric rise to readiness" against rubber bullets made him ready as an NFL starter?.....seriously?......dumping McCarron prematurely for a highly coveted" 5th round pick was disastrous....Barkley and McCarron are a relatively equal comparison with the major difference being McCarron was with one club while Barkley (believe he was at some point thought to be a potential 1st round pick) is well traveled....doubt he'll ever be an NFL starter, so he should be considering his best backup deal......5th club in 6 years says he's never been offered a longer term backup deal......up to him if he considers Bflo or shops..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 11:41 AM, Kelly the Dog said: He can't throw the ball consistently more than 15 yards. He's much smarter and more accurate than all of those guys but it's like playing a WR who runs a 5.9 40. He can have a good game and catch some balls and even score some TDs once in a while, but his physical incapability doesn't allow him to play well enough in this league. Barkley has played well about 3 times in his career, and even with that great game he has 10 TD and 18 INT and a 68 rating. It's because of his arm, only. He showed that he can make good decisions and learn offenses and lead a team. That is not his problem. His arm is his problem. Biletnikoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 2:41 PM, Kelly the Dog said: Barkley has played well about 3 times in his career, and even with that great game he has 10 TD and 18 INT and a 68 rating. It's because of his arm, only. He showed that he can make good decisions and learn offenses and lead a team. That is not his problem. His arm is his problem. ...and exactly how many of the deep, fertile and rich mecca of backup NFL QB's are STILL employed out of shear desperation?..paycheck extortion or impersonating an NFL QB charges on the horizon??.....without "shear desperation", Waste Management would NOT "pick up" the vast majority on any given Monday...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 1:35 AM, Dadonkadonk said: McCarron was signed to be the starter. Barkley might be an ok backup, But there is a reason he was out of football. Happy to keep him for next year at much less than $5M what happens if another team like tampa offers a good deal?....with a more likelihood to see a start at some point. i wouldn't count him as an autosign. that being said, they should bring in chad kelly for the off season and see how committed he is to restoring his career. could be a win/win if we lose matt and even if we draft one late..... although that garrett gilbert is intriguing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 year 4 mill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 10:25 AM, BillsVet said: It's nice that people are getting emotional and talking about a guy's reaction. Still, that doesn't factor into whether it's best for the team to keep someone. Barkley had one start where, a few weeks before, he was out of the NFL. If he's good enough to mentor Allen and, if necessary backup, then sure, sign him. His celebration on the sideline doesn't matter. He was injured in preseason and reached an injury settlement. Wouldn't have been cut otherwise by the Bengals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Bring him back. Allen is still young. Need that experience behind him. Sign him to a 2yr deal and give Barkley a modest bump in salary. Think with Barkley and Allen we got QB locked down tight. Never thought I'd say that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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