Complimentary Football vs. Derogatory Football

[Mat68]

When I hear "complimentary football", I hear we are going to play ultra conservative offensive football.  Its actually the worst and most outdated philosophy.  The offensive play calling is limited, turns into run, run, pass punt that has been dead since the 80s.

[BringBackFergy]

6 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Ok bud. 

 

You’re right, complimenting players is what it means. 

 

It’s an offense that drives the field using time on the clock. When they get stopped Special Teams pins the opposition deep. Then the defense gets a 3 and out. Special Teams catches the punt and gives the offense good field position to work with. That’s what it is. 

 

Not clapping and complimenting hard work.

 

When will Bills fans realize that “working hard” does not meaningfully differentiate the Bills from the rest of the league. 

 

What are the Bills going to out smile and out clap Pete Carrol? Give me a break. 

You can have special teams, offense and defense all play great, but answer this: how do you get those players to perform at that level?? I’ll hang up and listen (Hint: has something to do with complimenting pro players)

[Straight Hucklebuck]

8 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

You can have special teams, offense and defense all play great, but answer this: how do you get those players to perform at that level?? I’ll hang up and listen (Hint: has something to do with complimenting pro players)

How do you get those players to perform?

 

Hint: It’s called talent meets hard work. 

 

The Bills are missing 1/2 of that equation. 

 

You’re telling me that Bill Belichick smiles and compliments his players all the time? Old Cuddly Grandpa Bill. 

 

Andy Reid’s secret isn’t scheme and play calling, it’s telling 4.26 Tyreek Hill “good job”. 

 

Fricking ridiculous. 

12 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

When I hear "complimentary football", I hear we are going to play ultra conservative offensive football.  Its actually the worst and most outdated philosophy.  The offensive play calling is limited, turns into run, run, pass punt that has been dead since the 80s.

It’s a stupid phrase that means nothing. 

 

Of course we want the defense to stop the opponent and give the ball back to our offense, who then gives enough field position for a FG or TD. Of course you don’t want to have penalties or turnovers. 

 

It means nothing because it’s so obvious that it doesn’t need said. 

 

Its another McDermott mannerism. 

 

Meanwhile other teams in the league say hell with this we’re throwing 75 yards over your head, 7-0. 

Edited October 26, 2018 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Cripple Creek]

9 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

How do you get those players to perform?

 

Hint: It’s called talent meets hard work. 

 

The Bills are missing 1/2 of that equation. 

 

You’re telling me that Bill Belichick smiles and compliments his players all the time? Old Cuddly Grandpa Bill. 

 

Andy Reid’s secret isn’t scheme and play calling, it’s telling 4.26 Tyreek Hill “good job”. 

 

Fricking ridiculous. 

It’s a stupid phrase that means nothing. 

 

Of course we want the defense to stop the opponent and give the ball back to our offense, who then gives enough field position for a FG or TD. Of course you don’t want to have penalties or turnovers. 

 

It means nothing because it’s so obvious that it doesn’t need said. 

 

Its another McDermott mannerism. 

 

Meanwhile other teams in the league say hell with this we’re throwing 75 yards over your head, 7-0. 

Dood, you're treading on thin ice.  Keep the trolling and blaspheming to a minimum.

[RevWarRifleman]

K-9 and Fan in Chicago, glad you enjoyed my post.

[LSHMEAB]

18 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

Well that’s funny...read the author’s recap at the start and he says “complimentary” then later in the article he coins it as “complementary”. Your source doesn’t know his ass from his elbow. Know McDermott as I have seen him, he compliments his players. That’s how our team is being groomed. To compliment each other and our opponents. Nice try. 

Are you being serious right now? I mean, it would be somewhat funny if you were trolling, so I'm curious.

[BringBackFergy]

4 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

Are you being serious right now? I mean, it would be somewhat funny if you were trolling, so I'm curious.

If I complimented you would it not make you feel good and make you work even harder? Same holds true for our team. Complimenting players, supporting them, having their back...that’s the way to grow a “team”. To use derogatory or insightful words would only astrosize players and coaches. No...complimentary football is the way to go. So yes, I’m as serious as a flat tire in rush hour. 

[LSHMEAB]

5 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

If I complimented you would it not make you feel good and make you work even harder? Same holds true for our team. Complimenting players, supporting them, having their back...that’s the way to grow a “team”. To use derogatory or insightful words would only astrosize players and coaches. No...complimentary football is the way to go. So yes, I’m as serious as a flat tire in rush hour. 

But you understand the term complimentary football has nothing to do with atta boys, correct?

 

Otherwise, I'm a little concerned.

[BringBackFergy]

3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

But you understand the term complimentary football has nothing to do with atta boys, correct?

 

Otherwise, I'm a little concerned.

Com·pli·men·ta·ry

/ˌkämpləˈmen(t)ərē,ˌkämpləˈmentrē/

adjective

1. 1. 

   expressing a compliment; praising or approving.

   "Jennie was very complimentary about Kathy's riding"

   synonyms:

   flattering, appreciative, congratulatory, admiring, approving, commendatory, favorable, glowing, adulatory;  informalrave "complimentary remarks"

2. 2. 

   given or supplied free of charge.

   "a complimentary bottle of wine"

   synonyms:

   free, free of charge, gratis, for nothing; More

You were saying???????

[LSHMEAB]

3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Com·pli·men·ta·ry

/ˌkämpləˈmen(t)ərē,ˌkämpləˈmentrē/

adjective

1. 1. 

   expressing a compliment; praising or approving.

   "Jennie was very complimentary about Kathy's riding"

   synonyms:

   flattering, appreciative, congratulatory, admiring, approving, commendatory, favorable, glowing, adulatory;  informalrave "complimentary remarks"

2. 2. 

   given or supplied free of charge.

   "a complimentary bottle of wine"

   synonyms:

   free, free of charge, gratis, for nothing; More

You were saying???????

Well done bro. It's a good schtick.

[SinceThe70s]

1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said:

If I complimented you would it not make you feel good and make you work even harder? Same holds true for our team. Complimenting players, supporting them, having their back...that’s the way to grow a “team”. To use derogatory or insightful words would only astrosize players and coaches. No...complimentary football is the way to go. So yes, I’m as serious as a flat tire in rush hour. 

 

You had me until astrosize. Isn't astro the legendary training camp poster? How on earth could a well-respected, super-sized TBD poster  be equated with a derogatory comment? Confused.

[BringBackFergy]

8 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

You had me until astrosize. Isn't astro the legendary training camp poster? How on earth could a well-respected, super-sized TBD poster  be equated with a derogatory comment? Confused.

When you astrosize someone you make them feel left out or hurt. That’s opposite of complimentary football. When a coach criticizes or makes derogatory comments, the players feel astrosized. Not good. 

[Bing Bong]

On 10/24/2018 at 8:06 PM, BringBackFergy said:

But you have to admit, complimentary football helps a player feel better about themselves which, in the long run, helps the team. There should be more compliments on the football field. 

All true, Harbough was the kind of guy that such a hard ***, compliments gave em extreme confidence cause they must have worked so hard to earn it.

 

I'd add that Greg Schiano is the perfect contrapositive to your theory.. he was the biggest jackass I've seen at coach with the Bucs. 

 

Anyways I think this is just abundantly obvious.. if we recognize that successful coaches with the hardass reputation also we're complimentary in their own way. Stories of Belicheck's sparse acknowledgement of something you did well at that isn't always obvious too many people.. that's something players really appreciate. Bill Parcells was Beli on steroids and he certainly berated his players beyond what's appropriate. But he preached loyalty, him to the players and players to him and established a mutual understanding that he respects you, a compliment can reach a player in more ways than verbally.

 

Although I'd say Parcells has to be the most successful coach that certainly did lead by negative reinforcement.. just not in the Greg Schiano way. Complimentary leadership takes many forms, a requisite for success.

7 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

When you astrosize someone you make them feel left out or hurt. That’s opposite of complimentary football. When a coach criticizes or makes derogatory comments, the players feel astrosized. Not good. 

Ostricize.

19 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

You had me until astrosize. Isn't astro the legendary training camp poster? How on earth could a well-respected, super-sized TBD poster  be equated with a derogatory comment? Confused.

Hahaha OSTRICIZE folks. Don't skip highschool English class I know it's tempting.

[BringBackFergy]

4 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

 

Ostricize.

I guess I spelled it wrong. I should look up the spelling next time. Thx

[Bing Bong]

Just now, BringBackFergy said:

I guess I spelled it wrong. I should look up the spelling next time. Thx

Didn't mean to be a dick. But pronouncing it in my head just sounded hilarious. Like I only knew threw context at first I thought you were talking about some football term I never heard of.

[nedboy7]

This is truly entertaining.  In a positive way. 

[BringBackFergy]

Coach McD used the term again...I even heard a sports analyst use "complimentary football".  Pretty sure it applies to Nate Peterman.  The more we keep him involved, boost his ego with a few "atta boys" and "Nice toss Nate" I'm thinking the lightbulb will go off.  As for members of this Board who use derogatory terms about our team and Nate Peterson, I'm not sure you are doing a disservice to the team. Listen to Coach McD carefully, everything he says is finely crafted to compliment his players and one another.  There's no room for negativity in the locker room.  Well done McD 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Complimentary Football  ............... vs.    Derogatory Football

 

Nate had his best game yet .........  Nate Sucks and s/b cut 

[Fadingpain]

39 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Coach McD used the term again...I even heard a sports analyst use "complimentary football".  Pretty sure it applies to Nate Peterman.  The more we keep him involved, boost his ego with a few "atta boys" and "Nice toss Nate" I'm thinking the lightbulb will go off.  As for members of this Board who use derogatory terms about our team and Nate Peterson, I'm not sure you are doing a disservice to the team. Listen to Coach McD carefully, everything he says is finely crafted to compliment his players and one another.  There's no room for negativity in the locker room.  Well done McD 

I think McDermott's planned strategy of constant hand clapping plays into this as well.

 

He fully understands that "failure" is just an opportunity to improve.

 

 

[CLTbills]

On 10/21/2018 at 7:59 AM, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Im always a sucker for a complimentary continental breakfast, yummm! 

Funny how we'll pay $30.00 more for a hotel that offers "free" breakfast instead of one that doesnt.