RochesterRob Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 17 hours ago, Kemp said: Fox has lost interest in the scary caravan. Shocking. Don't need around the clock coverage. I am sure that when they are within a few miles of the border media coverage will ramp up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Caravan decides: It’s California or bust The main Honduran migrant caravan, still estimated to be roughly 4,000 strong, has been camped out in a sports stadium in Mexico City for the better part of a week now. That’s coming to an end this morning, however, as their patience has apparently been exhausted. Caravan leaders have gotten everyone together to decide their next move and, perhaps predictably, they’re heading north again. But rather than taking the shorter route toward Texas, they are opting for the longer and more dangerous route to the northwest, heading for Tijuana and presumably the Cruce Peatonal Hacia México border crossing near San Diego. (Associated Press) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, B-Man said: Caravan decides: It’s California or bust The main Honduran migrant caravan, still estimated to be roughly 4,000 strong, has been camped out in a sports stadium in Mexico City for the better part of a week now. That’s coming to an end this morning, however, as their patience has apparently been exhausted. Caravan leaders have gotten everyone together to decide their next move and, perhaps predictably, they’re heading north again. But rather than taking the shorter route toward Texas, they are opting for the longer and more dangerous route to the northwest, heading for Tijuana and presumably the Cruce Peatonal Hacia México border crossing near San Diego. (Associated Press) Great. They can all piss on our fires and head back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Great. They can all piss on our fires and head back home. Maybe money spent on high speed rail to nowhere could be better spent on clearing dead brush and trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Maybe money spent on high speed rail to nowhere could be better spent on clearing dead brush and trees. You just say that because you want to keep minorities from moving around freely. You racist pig dog misogynistic actual literal super mecha Nazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Maybe money spent on high speed rail to nowhere could be better spent on clearing dead brush and trees. Great idea! That is until the rains come and there is nothing to hold the hillsides from sliding. I suggest you and Donald (mismanagement of forests? What forests?) stick to topics you understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Maybe money spent on high speed rail to nowhere could be better spent on clearing dead brush and trees. I suspect the state might consider that given the number of homes of the uber-wealthy that are being destroyed at the snap of a finger right now. Burn a few houses in the central valley and CA doesn't really care. But burn down Malibu... Edited November 10, 2018 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Koko78 said: You just say that because you want to keep minorities from moving around freely. You racist pig dog misogynistic actual literal super mecha Nazi. I've been exposed. 5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Great idea! That is until the rains come and there is nothing to hold the hillsides from sliding. I suggest you and Donald (mismanagement of forests? What forests?) stick to topics you understand. One would think that you might have visited some of the forests when you lived in the Bay Area or east of Orange County. Dead trees and dead brush don't provide much of an anchor to prevent mudslides. Stick to your Hamburger Helper creations and robbing little old ladies of their pension funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I've been exposed. One would think that you might have visited some of the forests when you lived in the Bay Area or east of Orange County. Dead trees and dead brush don't provide much of an anchor to prevent mudslides. Stick to your Hamburger Helper creations and robbing little old ladies of their pension funds. Yes I hiked the forests regularly in the East Bay. They are not what’s burning. And yes dead/burnt brush doesn’t hold back the mud. So you advocate for removing ALL the brush so SOME of it doesn’t burn. Brilliant strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just do what they do in Alaska - let it burn. There are always forest fires in Alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nanker said: Just do what they do in Alaska - let it burn. There are always forest fires in Alaska. No no no. Because man reigns supreme on this planet we must stop Mother Nature from what has naturally occurred forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Yes I hiked the forests regularly in the East Bay. They are not what’s burning. And yes dead/burnt brush doesn’t hold back the mud. So you advocate for removing ALL the brush so SOME of it doesn’t burn. Brilliant strategy. Jim, Jim, Jim, I never said "all". Don't put words in my mouth. The state can limit the size of fires by clearing out sections strategically to protect communities and to also limit the size of forest fires. I'm not totally ignorant of CA terrain as I've lived in Orange and Ventura Counties, worked in Santa Barbara, camped and fished in the San Gabriels and Sierra Nevadas and traveling up and down the coast on the PCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Almost like thats what you get for letting someone speak on live TV claiming to be a public official with no confirmation... Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 6 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Jim, Jim, Jim, I never said "all". Don't put words in my mouth. The state can limit the size of fires by clearing out sections strategically to protect communities and to also limit the size of forest fires. I'm not totally ignorant of CA terrain as I've lived in Orange and Ventura Counties, worked in Santa Barbara, camped and fished in the San Gabriels and Sierra Nevadas and traveling up and down the coast on the PCH. Well you didn’t pay attention when you lived here I guess. We are already required, in most communities, to keep brush cleared a certain distance from our homes. In Oakland the FD would come by and inspect your homes and leave a report and fine you if you didn’t fix the “violation” such as tree branches hanging over your roof. So what you’re suggesting is already in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Well you didn’t pay attention when you lived here I guess. We are already required, in most communities, to keep brush cleared a certain distance from our homes. In Oakland the FD would come by and inspect your homes and leave a report and fine you if you didn’t fix the “violation” such as tree branches hanging over your roof. So what you’re suggesting is already in place. California is mostly just an irrigated desert which allows for it to be populated. Obviously there must have been an incredible amount of fuel to allow what happened in Paradise. It wasn't because of branches overhanging roofs or a little brush here and there. My guess is (from looking at an aerial and street view) that Paradise is at the edge of the foothills and is a heavily wooded community with a lot of pine trees and others. A fire was reported started from a campgrounds which I assume was in the foothills or mountains. So, it got started in the forest of pines and hit Paradise like an all out blitz. From the news I saw on TV overhanging branches or not, that town was doomed because of the intensity of the fire before it hit Paradise. The deadwood and the pines in the foothills are what did Paradise in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: California is mostly just an irrigated desert Oh, just shut the ***** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Oh, just shut the ***** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Oh, just shut the ***** up. No no no he lived here and watches TV so he knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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