Syracuse Basketball 2023-24

[DCOrange]

25 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Lydon was hardly a traditional big man , he was a stretch 4 who preferred shooting

 

We need a Fab or Onawaku , or rick Jackson a dude who will rebound and do the dirty work and not get pushed around

 

There is no defensive threat down low even

 

 

 

We don't need a traditional big. Lydon was a pretty good shot blocker and also had good hands for steals in the middle of the zone. He was vulnerable against bigger big men, but he pretty easily made up for that and more with what he provided at the other end of the floor.

 

Girard is best suited playing off of ball-screens; Lydon's ability to screen and both pop out for 3 pointers or slip to the hoop would be pretty much the ideal big man here. Would much rather have that than a big man asking for the ball in the post all game. Fab would be awesome too, maybe even better given his defensive talents and his ability as a roll man on offense.

 

Onuaku or Rick would be a huge upgrade over what we have right now, but I would much rather have another Lydon or Fab over those guys with the way basketball is played nowadays if I had the choice.

 

Like I said, for the offense to work, we basically just need a big man that will set screens and either finish around the rim when they roll or shoot at least a little bit when they pop. The defense is more of a team-wide issue; one player like Fab might help to cover some of that up, but Onuaku/Rick wouldn't be helping much on that end in all likelihood. Sure they could rebound, but there's only so many rebounds they can get when the other 4 guys on the floor just stand there and don't do anything. They'd basically be competing 1 on 4 for rebounds.

Edited December 6, 2019 by DCOrange

[Buffalo716]

28 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

 

We don't need a traditional big. Lydon was a pretty good shot blocker and also had good hands for steals in the middle of the zone. He was vulnerable against bigger big men, but he pretty easily made up for that and more with what he provided at the other end of the floor.

 

Girard is best suited playing off of ball-screens; Lydon's ability to screen and both pop out for 3 pointers or slip to the hoop would be pretty much the ideal big man here. Would much rather have that than a big man asking for the ball in the post all game. Fab would be awesome too, maybe even better given his defensive talents and his ability as a roll man on offense.

 

Onuaku or Rick would be a huge upgrade over what we have right now, but I would much rather have another Lydon or Fab over those guys with the way basketball is played nowadays if I had the choice.

 

Like I said, for the offense to work, we basically just need a big man that will set screens and either finish around the rim when they roll or shoot at least a little bit when they pop. The defense is more of a team-wide issue; one player like Fab might help to cover some of that up, but Onuaku/Rick wouldn't be helping much on that end in all likelihood. Sure they could rebound, but there's only so many rebounds they can get when the other 4 guys on the floor just stand there and don't do anything. They'd basically be competing 1 on 4 for rebounds.

The first guy I mentioned was Fab and he was a traditional big man 

 

But realistically the last time Cuse was a perennial top 10 team was when we had Christmas, Fab, Jackson and Onawakua

 

All were big men who could defend , rebound , catch a lob and put back a rebound.. we really haven't had that from a 5 in a few years

 

And don't get me wrong I'd kill for a Lyndon type.. he screwed us by leaving after 2 but he was great

 

But Boeheim usually always recruits power forwards decently well

Edited December 6, 2019 by Buffalo716

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

24 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

 

We don't need a traditional big. Lydon was a pretty good shot blocker and also had good hands for steals in the middle of the zone. He was vulnerable against bigger big men, but he pretty easily made up for that and more with what he provided at the other end of the floor.

 

Girard is best suited playing off of ball-screens; Lydon's ability to screen and both pop out for 3 pointers or slip to the hoop would be pretty much the ideal big man here. Would much rather have that than a big man asking for the ball in the post all game. Fab would be awesome too, maybe even better given his defensive talents and his ability as a roll man on offense.

 

Onuaku or Rick would be a huge upgrade over what we have right now, but I would much rather have another Lydon or Fab over those guys with the way basketball is played nowadays if I had the choice.

 

Like I said, for the offense to work, we basically just need a big man that will set screens and either finish around the rim when they roll or shoot at least a little bit when they pop. The defense is more of a team-wide issue; one player like Fab might help to cover some of that up, but Onuaku/Rick wouldn't be helping much on that end in all likelihood. Sure they could rebound, but there's only so many rebounds they can get when the other 4 guys on the floor just stand there and don't do anything. They'd basically be competing 1 on 4 for rebounds.

there’s no reason that Sidibe can’t be this guy. As a fresh in limited time, I saw him show a ton of flashes of picking, rolling, and finishing. 

[DCOrange]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The first guy I mentioned was Fab and he was a traditional big man 

 

But realistically the last time Cuse was a perennial top 10 team was when we had Christmas, Fab, Jackson and Onawakua

 

All were big men who could defend , rebound , catch a lob and put back a rebound.. we really haven't had that from a 5 in a few years

 

Basketball has changed a lot since those days. Fab is the only one that I might take over Lydon today. Onuaku was a worse defender than Lydon and not much better as a rebounder. Jackson was definitely a good rebounder but I'd much rather have Lydon on the offensive end.

 

Christmas is hard to judge because he was a disappointment up until his senior season. Lydon never even got to that point but I think Lydon was probably better back then and would be a better fit today.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, JR in Pittsburgh said:

there’s no reason that Sidibe can’t be this guy. As a fresh in limited time, I saw him show a ton of flashes of picking, rolling, and finishing. 

He just has been hampered by injuries and never really develop fully

[DCOrange]

2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

there’s no reason that Sidibe can’t be this guy. As a fresh in limited time, I saw him show a ton of flashes of picking, rolling, and finishing. 

 

There were definitely flashes his freshman year. Unfortunately more flashes as a freshman than we've seen as a sophomore or junior now, not to mention Boeheim has seemingly gone away from utilizing much of it in our offense, instead relying on isolations and dribble hand-offs.

 

I did like Sidibe a lot as a high school prospect and as a freshman though.

Edited December 6, 2019 by DCOrange

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, DCOrange said:

 

Basketball has changed a lot since those days. Fab is the only one that I might take over Lydon today. Onuaku was a worse defender than Lydon and not much better as a rebounder. Jackson was definitely a good rebounder but I'd much rather have Lydon on the offensive end.

 

Christmas is hard to judge because he was a disappointment up until his senior season. Lydon never even got to that point but I think Lydon was probably better back then and would be a better fit today.

Read the last line of my post i edited just as you responded

 

I do agree Lyndon was a hell of a player

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Read an article on Twitter today about a way to “fix” the Orange line-up.

 

PG: JG3

SG: Hughes

SF: Dolezaj

PF: Guerrier

C- Sidibe

 

Buddy would be first off the bench and could play SG or SF.  Thoughts?

Edited December 6, 2019 by Johnny Hammersticks

[Buffalo716]

28 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Read an article on Twitter today about a way to “fix” the Orange line-up.

 

PG: JG3

SG: Hughes

SF: Dolezaj

PF: Guerrier

C- Sidibe

 

Buddy would be first off the bench and could play SG or SF.  Thoughts?

I don't think it's bad. I think Hughes has more of the length and size of a shooting guard as opposed to a 3 anyways and I think there could be some options offensively

[inkman]

Hopefully they saved some shots for the rest of their games.  

[Buffalo716]

Ok then...

 

Got the walk-ons in!

[Johnny Hammersticks]

I missed the game and forgot to record.  What the hell happened other than Hughes going off.  Is Ga Tech that bad?  Jeebus...

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

I missed the game and forgot to record.  What the hell happened other than Hughes going off.  Is Ga Tech that bad?  Jeebus...

EVERY SINGLE THING WENT IN lol

 

GT gameplan was terrible for any Cuse team. They played fast and took quick , usually bad shots and missed

 

Buddy was slow going in the first but caught and shot and made everything in the second

 

Girard hit some deep 3s

 

Guerrier and Dolezaj both fouled out I believe late in the game

[Johnny Hammersticks]

30 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

EVERY SINGLE THING WENT IN lol

 

GT gameplan was terrible for any Cuse team. They played fast and took quick , usually bad shots and missed

 

Buddy was slow going in the first but caught and shot and made everything in the second

 

Girard hit some deep 3s

 

Guerrier and Dolezaj both fouled out I believe late in the game

 

Oh, so all we needed to do was make shots?  lol. I see that Hughes spent some time at SG ?

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Oh, so all we needed to do was make shots?  lol. I see that Hughes spent some time at SG ?

As simple as it sounds sometimes that's the key lol

 

We haven't been making shots and it's hurt us, today the ball moved and the shots fell

 

Hughes could've done whatever he wanted

[DCOrange]

A couple breakthroughs today:

1. Sidibe looked more like his freshman self.
2. Howard Washington got a decent amount of playing time and looked like our best PG today.

[Buffalo716]

15 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

A couple breakthroughs today:

1. Sidibe looked more like his freshman self.
2. Howard Washington got a decent amount of playing time and looked like our best PG today.

I forgot to mention Washington who's Buffalo native and does look like a good pass first point guard

[Johnny Hammersticks]

31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I forgot to mention Washington who's Buffalo native and does look like a good pass first point guard

 

Watched the replay.  I will say that Washington looks more “ready” than Goodine right now.  I still say, in terms of bringing the rock up the court under pressure, JG3 is our guy.  

Edited December 7, 2019 by Johnny Hammersticks

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Forgot to record the GT game myself. Wow. Did we hopefully turn the corner?

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Forgot to record the GT game myself. Wow. Did we hopefully turn the corner?

GT does have a good defense so maybe it's a start but let's hope for more consistency

 

Howard Washington did have like 8 assists in 18 minutes so he was very efficient while in the game

[Buffalo716]

Let's go SU!

 

Finish the half strong!

[row_33]

Depressing to think how much this matchup has cratered in our lifetime

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Well, solid win against North Florida! I did not realize that that was even a school. Sadly, they too were pushing us around inside. Need to get Guerrier more minutes— he’s the only beef we have inside. 

[Buffalo716]

43 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Well, solid win against North Florida! I did not realize that that was even a school. Sadly, they too were pushing us around inside. Need to get Guerrier more minutes— he’s the only beef we have inside. 

Didn't watch today but Sidibe , Edwards and Dolezaj are beanpoles

 

I'm sure success can be found inside

[inkman]

On 12/21/2019 at 10:56 PM, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Well, solid win against North Florida! I did not realize that that was even a school. Sadly, they too were pushing us around inside. Need to get Guerrier more minutes— he’s the only beef we have inside. 

 

On 12/21/2019 at 11:39 PM, Buffalo716 said:

Didn't watch today but Sidibe , Edwards and Dolezaj are beanpoles

 

I'm sure success can be found inside

I was going to post the exact same thought. Is Syracuse the slightest D 1 team in America?  Hugh's and Guerrier are the only guys resembling ACC body types. The rest of them look like they just got off the refugee bus. Holy smokes are they skinny. Get these guys some steaks and Guiness. I was excited to see Robert Braswell early on against N. Florida but he's not helping their cause. Little Joey Girard might be the 3rd strongest guy on the team. 

[bbb]

4 hours ago, inkman said:

 

I was going to post the exact same thought. Is Syracuse the slightest D 1 team in America?  Hugh's and Guerrier are the only guys resembling ACC body types. The rest of them look like they just got off the refugee bus. Holy smokes are they skinny. Get these guys some steaks and Guiness. I was excited to see Robert Braswell early on against N. Florida but he's not helping their cause. Little Joey Girard might be the 3rd strongest guy on the team. 

 

When Osun Osunniyi picked Bona over SU and Georgetown, a lot of people here were saying he would have been a backup anyway. He's been absolutely dominant when he's been able to play this year.  If he was healthy the whole season, we might be undefeated.  We are undefeated in games he has played - except for the opener when he got hurt.

 

He's likely going to be a lottery pick.  I'm not so sure he'd be a backup at SU.   

[Johnny Hammersticks]

12 minutes ago, bbb said:

 

When Osun Osunniyi picked Bona over SU and Georgetown, a lot of people here were saying he would have been a backup anyway. He's been absolutely dominant when he's been able to play this year.  If he was healthy the whole season, we might be undefeated.  We are undefeated in games he has played - except for the opener when he got hurt.

 

He's likely going to be a lottery pick.  I'm not so sure he'd be a backup at SU.   

 

Yeah, he’s really setting the world on fire against Gannon, Niagara and Hofstra.  I’m sure NBA execs are drooling.  Get real.

[Buffalo716]

24 minutes ago, bbb said:

 

When Osun Osunniyi picked Bona over SU and Georgetown, a lot of people here were saying he would have been a backup anyway. He's been absolutely dominant when he's been able to play this year.  If he was healthy the whole season, we might be undefeated.  We are undefeated in games he has played - except for the opener when he got hurt.

 

He's likely going to be a lottery pick.  I'm not so sure he'd be a backup at SU.   

That is a long way from happening rn my friend

[bbb]

On 12/23/2019 at 4:04 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Yeah, he’s really setting the world on fire against Gannon, Niagara and Hofstra.  I’m sure NBA execs are drooling.  Get real.

 

So, I read page after page on this thread about how bad the bigs are, but you're going to stick with them being better than Osun............What's nice is that we can see how this plays out.  Not just in general, but I've heard that if SU doesn't chicken out again, the two teams will play at the Dome the next two years...........We'll see how much your vaunted bigs are better.

 

I don't know if the NBA scouts were drooling, but I know they've been at Bona practices.  Maybe just wanted to visit the Olean area. 

 

Kind of like when that Chidi guy transferred to Bonas - Oh, he'll be good in the Atlantic 10.  No, he got even less time than he got at SU.  

On 12/23/2019 at 4:12 PM, Buffalo716 said:

That is a long way from happening rn my friend

 

Yeah, hopefully two years.  

 

 

 

Osun vs. MTSU (a team that has tourney wins over Minnesota and Michigan State in the last 3 years): 15 points, 16 rebounds and 5 blocks.  But, yeah - you couldn't use him at all, Hotheadsticks 

That was his last game - when he finally played a full game. 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

2 hours ago, bbb said:

 

So, I read page after page on this thread about how bad the bigs are, but you're going to stick with them being better than Osun............What's nice is that we can see how this plays out.  Not just in general, but I've heard that if SU doesn't chicken out again, the two teams will play at the Dome the next two years...........We'll see how much your vaunted bigs are better.

 

I don't know if the NBA scouts were drooling, but I know they've been at Bona practices.  Maybe just wanted to visit the Olean area. 

 

Osun vs. MTSU (a team that has tourney wins over Minnesota and Michigan State in the last 3 years): 15 points, 16 rebounds and 5 blocks.  But, yeah - you couldn't use him at all, Hotheadsticks.

 

Quite honestly, I don’t really know all that much about Osun whateverhisnameis, but I wish him the best of luck just like the vast majority or recruits that spurn Syracuse.  Also, good for Bona.  I noticed their win over Middle Tenn St.  That’s a quality win.  I always root for them when they’re not playing Cuse, as my sister is an alum.

 

What puzzles me is why you would continue to post in Syracuse basketball thread purely to rub our nose in the *****.  You didn’t see any Cuse fans posting in the Bona thread (oh wait...there isn’t one) when your boys lost to perennial powers Ohio, UVM, Siena and Canisius...

 

Look, we’re not good.  We probably won’t make the NCAA tourney, and perhaps not even the NIT.  Congrats.

 

I’ll go ahead and start a Bona basketball thread for you all to enjoy.  Let’s see if you can keep it afloat on your way to a nat’l title ?

[bbb]

11 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

What puzzles me is why you would continue to post in Syracuse basketball thread purely to rub our nose in the *****.

 

Point out one time in these 42 pages where I have done that?  And, I didn't even do it here.  I "follow" threads - which is odd to me that hardly anybody does.  So once I post in a thread, I get emails when anybody else posts in it...............I keep seeing complaints about the bigs.  And, I thought wait, these guys thought Osun was somebody they didn't want?............Even Schmidt (our coach) said we'd have never landed him if his friend, Kyle Lofton, wasn't already on board and recruiting the hell out of him.  

14 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

You didn’t see any Cuse fans posting in the Bona thread (oh wait...there isn’t one) when your boys lost to perennial powers Ohio, UVM, Siena and Canisius

 

Ohio is the game he got hurt in and then he didn't play in those other three at all.  

[bbb]

On 12/23/2019 at 4:04 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

against Gannon, Niagara and Hofstra

 

Sorry that we nobody wants to play us, like you're next game (checks notes) - against Niagara 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

19 minutes ago, bbb said:

 

Sorry that we nobody wants to play us, like you're next game (checks notes) - against Niagara 

 

You have your very own thread now.  Spread your wings and talk hoops with your Bona brethren!!  I know for a fact there are a lot of you good folks floating around here.  Cheers ?!

[bbb]

9 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

You have your very own thread now.  Spread your wings and talk hoops with your Bona brethren!!  I know for a fact there are a lot of you good folks floating around here.  Cheers ?!

 

I want to talk about SU's inside game.  

[Johnny Hammersticks]

I’ll be at the game tonight with my son for his 10th birthday if anyone is going to be around.  We’ll be in section 107.  At Faegan’s before the game for dinner.  Hit me up!

 

Go Cuse ?

[bbb]

Wow - Faegan's is still Faegan's?!?  Love that place.  

[Johnny Hammersticks]

31 minutes ago, bbb said:

Wow - Faegan's is still Faegan's?!?  Love that place.  

 

Yup.  I didn’t get a free education at Syracuse University, but I do still know the good spots to eat/drink/shop on the hill.  Meet us there at around 5:30 and I’ll buy you a beer. ?

[Bermuda Triangle]

1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Yup.  I didn’t get a free education at Syracuse University, but I do still know the good spots to eat/drink/shop on the hill.  Meet us there at around 5:30 and I’ll buy you a beer. ?

 

I don't know when you were last on The Hill, but I was there for the Clemson game in September, having last been to the campus area for a hoops game in January, and I couldn't believe how different the Marshall/Crouse area looked.  There's a large apartment building where Hungry Chuck's/Charlie's and Funk 'N Waffles used to be.   This may be blasphemy, but I cannot stand the food at Varsity - far too greasy for me.  Faegan's, on the other hand, is a great place to grab a bite and a drink or two before or after a game.

 

As for the team itself...yikes.  I do like watching Girard play, but frankly expected more from Guerrier and Goodine.  Little disappointed that it doesn't seem that Dolezaj, Buddy and Sidibe have shown any marked improvement from last season.  Far too often this season, it's been Hughes against the world.

Edited December 28, 2019 by Bermuda Triangle

[bbb]

4 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

This may be blasphemy, but I cannot stand the food at Varsity

 

Definitely blasphemy! 

[Buffalo716]

5 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

I’ll be at the game tonight with my son for his 10th birthday if anyone is going to be around.  We’ll be in section 107.  At Faegan’s before the game for dinner.  Hit me up!

 

Go Cuse ?

Sounds fun!