Buffalo News in financial trouble

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, Ifartalot said:

Damn that Electoral College !

 

Nothing wrong with California, New York and some major U.S. metros deciding for the rest of the country who should be their President.

 

Well, for one thing, that's where 80% of Americans live. Urban areas. What do you have against majority rule? 

Edited May 21, 2018 by PromoTheRobot

[ColoradoBills]

3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Do they vote on Pikes Peak?

 

No.  Closest voting is probably Green Mountain Falls, CO.

[RochesterRob]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Well, for one thing, that's where 80% of Americans live. Urban areas. What do you have against majority rule? 

  Were you this concerned about the EC in 1992, 1996, 2008, and 2012?  The Founding Fathers saw the festering poverty of the large cities of Old Europe and the root causes therefore they considered it detrimental to let large cities have a majority of voting power.  

[Lurker]

20 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

 The Founding Fathers saw the festering poverty of the large cities of Old Europe and the root causes therefore they considered it detrimental to let large cities have a majority of voting power.  

 

The also saw the narrow world view of poorly educated rural farmers and thought the same thing....

[Delete This Account]

On 5/15/2018 at 10:54 PM, clayboy54 said:

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch! Enjoy the unemployment line, chumps.

 

this post reflects how low a person you are.

to go so far as to desire something bad to happen to a group of people and their families is as ignorant as ignorant gets.

and then to have two people actually like it.

i see we've reached the shallow end of the pool here.

 

jw

 

[PromoTheRobot]

22 minutes ago, Ifartalot said:

 

22 minutes ago, Ifartalot said:

Because it' more in league with mob rule.

Lol! Effin' brilliant.  Yes, elections won by the majority are tantamount to tyranny!

Edited May 21, 2018 by PromoTheRobot

[Bill from NYC]

20 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Well she did get 3 million more votes. 

If you PM me your address, I will mail you a mood coloring book. It's on me; you can take it to your crying room.

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, Bill from NYC said:

If you PM me your address, I will mail you a mood coloring book. It's on me; you can take it to your crying room.

 

Hey, I'm not the one crying about it. Just pointing out the fact. If anyone is still crying about it, it's the Orange Emporer.

[JohninMinn.]

On 5/15/2018 at 9:50 PM, billsfan1960 said:

When I lived in Buffalo, my paper of choice was the Courier Express, the writes were better along with the sports coverage in my opinion. Phil Randall (I think) was a great spots writer.

 

Rinallo?

[PromoTheRobot]

56 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Were you this concerned about the EC in 1992, 1996, 2008, and 2012?  The Founding Fathers saw the festering poverty of the large cities of Old Europe and the root causes therefore they considered it detrimental to let large cities have a majority of voting power.  

 

Nice try. Actually the Electoral College was supposed to be a stop gap against the public voting for someone who was entirely unqualified for the presidency.  Obviously that failed.

[zonabb]

21 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

Link?   

 

People living in the burbs tend to better educated, more affluent and larger consumers of ideas/information than their older, less educated and poorer urban counterparts.    If anything, that geographic shift should be a plus for newspaper readership...

It would be a plus but TBN spends an inordinate amount of its effort being the PR arm of Byron Brown and the City. TBN rarely covers anything in any depth in the suburbs, outside of Amherst. Since the suburbs are balkanized into very small geographies, the TBN has them thinly covered but when taken on the whole, when you write off a lot of small suburbs as a collective, that's hundreds of thousands of potential readers.

 

I'll continue to say it. Our media here sucks. And the issue specifically with the TBN is that is full of loud mouth columnists who spend more time criticizing everything but lack the expertise to be taken serious and never offer a solution, whether it's the people cover govt or sports. 

 

And since TBN has no block their website when I use AdBlocker, I don't even see the front page anymore. So I wasn't paying for it before but they could count my visits as traffic for ad sales, not they've lost that. In the end, I was reading TBN less and less. As someone mentioned, it has become boosterism, PR, and supporting/promoting conspicuous consumption. It no longer actually resembles a news agency and I won't apologize for not shedding a tear when it suffers anymore than I did when fill in the blank company fails. Everyone seems to love competition and creative destruction. This is a front row seat to that process. 

[RochesterRob]

58 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Nice try. Actually the Electoral College was supposed to be a stop gap against the public voting for someone who was entirely unqualified for the presidency.  Obviously that failed.

  And how was this unqualified person supposed to be stopped?  By magic?  Implementing the electoral college was the best preventative measure for under-qualified individuals getting elected as they could not simply spout rhetoric to appeal to the uneducated masses which more often than not lived in the city prior to mass public education which occurred in the 19th Century.  So you more or less are supporting my point.  Big city mob rule = demagogue ruler.  By the way that (EC) succeeded when a certain former First Lady did not get elected whose greatest achievement as US Senator was to get a section of highway in WNY named after a great man in Tim Russert oddly enough.  Even her health care ideas which liberals fawned over was nothing more than a rehash of 1960's and early 1970's Democratic Party ideas.

[PromoTheRobot]

35 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  And how was this unqualified person supposed to be stopped?  By magic?  Implementing the electoral college was the best preventative measure for under-qualified individuals getting elected as they could not simply spout rhetoric to appeal to the uneducated masses which more often than not lived in the city prior to mass public education which occurred in the 19th Century.  So you more or less are supporting my point.  Big city mob rule = demagogue ruler.  By the way that (EC) succeeded when a certain former First Lady did not get elected whose greatest achievement as US Senator was to get a section of highway in WNY named after a great man in Tim Russert oddly enough.  Even her health care ideas which liberals fawned over was nothing more than a rehash of 1960's and early 1970's Democratic Party ideas.

Well I'm sure you must be proud of how the current administration is doing fighting graft and corruption.

 

Also, as a reminder, that former first lady was also a senator and a secretary of state. I know, it's not much. Certainly nothing like being a game show host and crooked developer.

 

One last thing, just so I'm clear. Is it only mob rule when the side you support loses?

Edited May 22, 2018 by PromoTheRobot

[vincec]

7 hours ago, Ifartalot said:

Damn that Electoral College !

 

Nothing wrong with California, New York and some major U.S. metros deciding for the rest of the country who should be their President.

So much for one man, one vote. I guess some votes are worth more than others in our "democracy."

Edited May 22, 2018 by vincec

[Lurker]

1 hour ago, zonabb said:

 it has become boosterism, PR, and supporting/promoting conspicuous consumption. It no longer actually resembles a news agency and I won't apologize for not shedding a tear when it suffers anymore than I did when fill in the blank company fails. 

 

You sound like a very bitter individual.   Buffalo's got a lot going for it, not the least of which is the dying out of old school pessimism like this...

[RochesterRob]

52 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Well I'm sure you must be proud of how the current administration is doing fighting graft and corruption.

 

Also, as a reminder, that former first lady was also a senator and a secretary of state. I know, it's not much. Certainly nothing like being a game show host and crooked developer.

 

One last thing, just so I'm clear. Is it only mob rule when the side you support loses?

  Both parties failed the voters horribly in 2016 so while I am a Republican I don't necessarily support the party's nominee 100 percent of the time.  Best case scenario with Trump of which I have some hope for is that he is a circuit breaker for the more polished DC crooks.  While I would have liked to have somebody such as Batman as POTUS in the real world Trump was probably the best alternative for shaking up the status quo.  

 

  Make the case for me in that Clinton in your mind was very accomplished in her jobs as US Senator and SOS.  What legislation has she sponsored that positively impacted 10's of millions of Americans?  What peace negotiations has she performed or what treaties has she drawn up?  Really, Hillary was on par or even below par with Trump in terms of accomplishments.    

 

  I did not complain when Obama won although my expectations were not set high as he did not have a lengthy career on the federal level and was a lightning rod for some unfortunately.  Was not a Obama supporter but was never categorically against him, either.  When Clinton won in '92 it was a fracture of the Republican Party when Ross Perot ran so the "mob" was not squarely in the Clinton corner.  

[bbb]

Seems that I'm the only person left who gets the physical paper.