The Now Moment Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just now, SoCal Deek said: I’m not sure what you ‘doubt’ in my post. While you’re correct that they’ll ultimately be judged on Allen, the immediate returns will be from Picks 2 and 3. This team has way too many holes to have swung and missed on those two while the #1 holds a clipboard. If Allen misses, I think they are gone. If Allen hits, doesn't matter what the others do this year. They have a few years here. They will not get the axe because of a LB and DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just now, Buffalo30 said: If Allen misses, I think they are gone. If Allen hits, doesn't matter what the others do this year. They have a few years here. They will not get the axe because of a LB and DT. Well that pretty well takes them to year 4 of 5 in their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Because many fans here have panned nearly every one his draft picks. Especially what he did in Round 1 Because they're ignorant. No one knows how they'll turn out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said: If Allen misses, I think they are gone. If Allen hits, doesn't matter what the others do this year. They have a few years here. They will not get the axe because of a LB and DT. Thanks, but I wasn’t talking about them getting the axe. My point is you won’t have to wait three years for a glimpse at their evaluation. If Edmunds and Phillips are both major contributors, we’ll know it long before 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respk Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Beane did exactly what I've wanted the Bills to do. That is to pick a franchise QB and get him no matter what it takes. Whether Allen becomes a franchise QB remains to be seen, but they took a chance and did something. I'm tired of watching the Bills sit back and wait for something to happen. If Allen doesn't work out then Beane and McDermott may be gone and rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Well that pretty well takes them to year 4 of 5 in their contracts. Which is around what teams usually give a new HC/GM duo. Unless we are talking about the Bills or Cleveland...oh wait 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Thanks, but I wasn’t talking about them getting the axe. My point is you won’t have to wait three years for a glimpse at their evaluation. If Edmunds and Phillips are both major contributors, we’ll know it long before 2020. Not necessarily. Jadaveon Clowney is a great example. People were screaming bust from the hilltops and in his 4th season with the team he arrived. Sometimes teams just need to be patient. The fans won't be but the front office must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just now, Buffalo30 said: Which is around what teams usually give a new HC/GM duo. Unless we are talking about the Bills or Cleveland...oh wait Pegs already said he wanted young up and comers...check Pegs also said they had a long leash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: I was really sold that we found our GM, but I think he made a world class mistake. Care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just now, SoCal Deek said: Thanks, but I wasn’t talking about them getting the axe. My point is you won’t have to wait three years for a glimpse at their evaluation. If Edmunds and Phillips are both major contributors, we’ll know it long before 2020. I think Allen will see significant playing time this year. This is not like KC last year, where Alex Smith (a proven starter) was entrenched ahead of the rookie. Number one priority has to be to get Allen some weapons. And I’m surprised we did not draft a RB this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 This fan base is not in the patient mood. The offense has the chance to really bad. So, the two defensive draft picks had better contribute to the defense being really ‘promising’ or 2018 is going to be horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just now, Epstein's Mother said: Care to elaborate? Sure. I think we’ll be in qb limbo for the next three years until we are forced to spend another draft pick for a new one. Up til the draft Beane was killing it, heck I really like the draft outside of the first pick. Could I be wrong? Sure. I just don’t think I am and I think that one move set us back three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 He's a genius. I'm still trying to figure out how he got the #1 pick for the Sabres this weekend too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, mannc said: I think Allen will see significant playing time this year. This is not like KC last year, where Alex Smith (a proven starter) was entrenched ahead of the rookie. Number one priority has to be to get Allen some weapons. And I’m surprised we did not draft a RB this year. I really billieve its an open 3 way competition for the starting job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, mannc said: I think Allen will see significant playing time this year. This is not like KC last year, where Alex Smith (a proven starter) was entrenched ahead of the rookie. Number one priority has to be to get Allen some weapons. And I’m surprised we did not draft a RB this year. Well we’re all going to find out but somehow I think Allen won’t see the field in 2018. Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield all will, but not Allen. He’s going to be well served by watching and learning. The speed of the players is nothing like he saw at Wyoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: This fan base is not in the patient mood. The offense has the chance to really bad. So, the two defensive draft picks had better contribute to the defense being really ‘promising’ or 2018 is going to be horrific. Well the fanbase doesn't get to make that decision. If it's up to me, AJM plays thks year. If he sucks, we get a nice early pick to get WR, OL, or RB help and focus on surrounding Allen. Fans can whine and cry all they want, Beane is going to do Beane. If he was going to fold to fan opinion, he would not have taken the lightning rod QB with a last minute mini-scandal. He's doing what he believes is best, irregardless of what we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The speed of the players is nothing like he saw at Wyoming. True, but that didn’t stop Wentz. At least Allen played D-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 He truly has both short term and long term in his mind. He prioritizes the QB properly and took a shot. Even if Allen busts, nobody can accuse Beane of not thinking the QB is important and nobody can accuse him of not willing to get his man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Sure. I think we’ll be in qb limbo for the next three years until we are forced to spend another draft pick for a new one. Up til the draft Beane was killing it, heck I really like the draft outside of the first pick. Could I be wrong? Sure. I just don’t think I am and I think that one move set us back three years. Thanks for adding that. Just like you I'm hoping that you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said: Thanks for adding that. Just like you I'm hoping that you are wrong. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 I am shocked the approval rating is so high. There have been many unhappy campers here the past few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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