DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Quote Rebel101 Probation Why even call it probation if we allow brand new posters to come in and throw crap all over the board? Probation violation. This dude is worse than Meek Mill and he did 6 months! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Rebel101 said: I didn't want them to trade anything and they didn't have to and still could have got Rosen or Allen at 12 I realize you are a newcomer to this board. So, I'll take it easy and explain the best I can. The Bills were probably working the phones hard in an attempt to trade to up after Darnold went #3 to the Jets. From what I see no team wanted to trade with them except Tampa and the Bills needed to trade away two second round picks in order to make that deal. This tells me that they were probably fighting with other teams to grab that #7 spot. who knows how many? Then when the Cardinals traded up for Josh Rosen they didn't need to expend much so this tells me no other teams were even interested in trading up for Rosen at that point. Miami was probably hoping he might drop to them at the 11 spot. But they didn't feel that strongly about it or they would have attempted to move up too. Josh Rosen dropped quite a bit due to his injury concerns and he went to a team that also signed another injury prone QB in Sam Bradford. Speaking of Bradford, 9 years in the NFL and made over 110 million dollars. out of 144 games the guy has only played in 80 and his record is 35-45-1. Rosen is very similar to Bradford in that he is a very slick QB when healthy and Sams problem is he can't stay healthy. Bottom line is that neither of those two QB's would have been there at the #12 spot and Buffalo would have a handful of air. Instead, they have two blue-chip players that they needed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: So if the cardinals wanted someone so bad and they moved up to lets say 8 or 9 and grabbed allen or rosen then we couldn't move up and grab the next guy? I hope he works out n i hope i am wrong but it could have been played smarter n if you dont like my opinion its my thread dumb ass so why dont you put something in your mouth and stay quiet Right so hit me in 3 years after i impregnate your girl and make you take care of the baby n we can bond about how josh allen sucks What is wrong about that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregonbillsfan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Bills picked Allen because Rosen is two concussions away from Trent Edwards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: And the Bills had a deal set up with the Broncos to go up to 5 so who knows what that would have costed...almost every scout is saying Josh Allen will need to sit atleast 2 years before he can start do you think a top ten pick is worth a 2 year wait n worth giving up 2 2nd round picks when we couldhave just drafted Watson last year n not even got all this draft capital to waste to begin with and had a proven player 4 Almost every scout, really? Stop making stuff up! Show me a link that states that anyone, anywhere stated it will take two years of development for Allen. I also think its probably the smartest thing this team can do is to sit their future franchise QB for a year to build a solid offensive line for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I realize you are a newcomer to this board. So, I'll take it easy and explain the best I can. The Bills were probably working the phones hard in an attempt to trade to up after Darnold went #3 to the Jets. From what I see no team wanted to trade with them except Tampa and the Bills needed to trade away two second round picks in order to make that deal. This tells me that they were probably fighting with other teams to grab that #7 spot. who knows how many? Then when the Cardinals traded up for Josh Rosen they didn't need to expend much so this tells me no other teams were even interested in trading up for Rosen at that point. Miami was probably hoping he might drop to them at the 11 spot. But they didn't feel that strongly about it or they would have attempted to move up too. Josh Rosen dropped quite a bit due to his injury concerns and he went to a team that also signed another injury prone QB in Sam Bradford. Speaking of Bradford, 9 years in the NFL and made over 110 million dollars. out of 144 games the guy has only played in 80 and his record is 35-45-1. Rosen is very similar to Bradford in that he is a very slick QB when healthy and Sams problem is he can't stay healthy. Bottom line is that neither of those two QB's would have been there at the #12 spot and Buffalo would have a handful of air. Instead, they have two blue-chip players that they needed!! Understand 100% but why not sit and wait for the Cardinals to trade up and spend it all because we have more value so the cardinals arent going to want to spend what it takes to move that high n the dolphins werent taken a QB tanehill can produce with a team around him thatlocker room has been a mess their coach loves tannehill he isnt going anywhere this year if anything and the cards moved to 7 or 8 we could have savedsome value if they didnt move until 10 id havr taken the chance at 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Rebel101 said: Understand 100% but why not sit and wait for the Cardinals to trade up and spend it all because we have more value so the cardinals arent going to want to spend what it takes to move that high n the dolphins werent taken a QB tanehill can produce with a team around him thatlocker room has been a mess their coach loves tannehill he isnt going anywhere this year if anything and the cards moved to 7 or 8 we could have savedsome value if they didnt move until 10 id havr taken the chance at 12 God you are so missing the point Yes we MIGHT have been able to play the waiting game with Rosen (I seriously doubt it but like You I also was not in the war room) but THEY DID NOT WANT HIM Josh Allen was their guy...they didnt want to wait to see who was left over...they wanted Josh Allen. Right or wrong that was their guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: Understand 100% but why not sit and wait for the Cardinals to trade up and spend it all because we have more value so the cardinals arent going to want to spend what it takes to move that high n the dolphins werent taken a QB tanehill can produce with a team around him thatlocker room has been a mess their coach loves tannehill he isnt going anywhere this year if anything and the cards moved to 7 or 8 we could have savedsome value if they didnt move until 10 id havr taken the chance at 12 10 10 Jeez, slow down. take a breath and think of what you are saying before typing. Obviously, Buffalo wanted Josh Allen all along and worked the phones hard to get him. If you listened to their PC on the draft they stated Allen is a perfect fit in Buffalo as the guy is a big, strong player from Wyoming who has played in the wind, snow, and cold. It was in Rotoworld news that the Miami Dolphins had told Tannehill that if they drafted a QB in the first round this year he would still be the starter. So if either Allen or Rosen were there at the 10 spot Miami would have drafted one of them. Edited April 28, 2018 by Nihilarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaradiseCowboy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Welcome to the board! So are you guys both Wyoming fans following Josh here, or what? 1955 is hard to beat!! I’m definitely not in the same genre as @The Virginian. He remembers the good ol’ days when Wyoming was in contention for national championships. But I’m also an alumni of UW and a die-hard Pokes fan. Really loved Eddie when he played in Wyoming and Josh is also one of my personal favorites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Almost every scout, really? Stop making stuff up! Show me a link that states that anyone, anywhere stated it will take two years of development for Allen. I also think its probably the smartest thing this team can do is to sit their future franchise QB for a year to build a solid offensive line for him. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.diehards.com/national/film-room-josh-allen-good-bad-ugly-mysterious-nfl-draft-prospect/amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, The Virginian said: Yes, a couple members of PokeNation. I can't speak for Laradise, but I'm a UW alumnus and was raised in Wyoming. I live in Virginia now, but I've been all in for the Cowboys since a young kid. I went to my first Wyoming home game in 1955 at 18 months old. 2 minutes ago, LaradiseCowboy said: 1955 is hard to beat!! I’m definitely not in the same genre as @The Virginian. He remembers the good ol’ days when Wyoming was in contention for national championships. But I’m also an alumni of UW and a die-hard Pokes fan. Really loved Eddie when he played in Wyoming and Josh is also one of my personal favorites. Right on. Well, I hope you are both here for many years, cheering on the successful career of our new QB! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 woulda coulda shoulda...easy to say that now but i guess your 9-5 job makes you the GM of the year. Yes it sounds all good in theory and that prolly would have been ideal situation sit and wait and let allen or rosen fall but why take that risk and then you have the chance to miss out on your QB when u do that...ala big ben..we didnt move up to get him and he went few picks before us. If we sat pat and 4 qbs gone before we pick at 12...bills mafia would have strung beane up and then you would have been the one why didnt we give up our 2 seconds to move up. So just be happy for the bills for once instead of always playing armchair GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: God you are so missing the point Yes we MIGHT have been able to play the waiting game with Rosen (I seriously doubt it but like You I also was not in the war room) but THEY DID NOT WANT HIM Josh Allen was their guy...they didnt want to wait to see who was left over...they wanted Josh Allen. Right or wrong that was their guy. I understand that but it is still my opinion to say they should have waited n that he wasnt worth it i know i wasnt there i know thats who they wanted n in my opinion it was a mistake i dont think you are getting it i never said they would ever do that we are just men talking n thats my opinion yours is they did what they had to do and you understand mine is i dont like it...do you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 didnt aaron rodgers sit for you 2 years. he was 1st round qb, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Jeez, slow down. take a breath and think of what you are saying before typing. Obviously, Buffalo wanted Josh Allen all along and worked the phones hard to get him. If you listened to their PC on the draft they stated Allen is a perfect fit in Buffalo as the guy is a big, strong player from Wyoming who has played in the wind, snow, and cold. It was in Rotoworld news that the Miami Dolphins had told Tannehill that if they drafted a QB in the first round this year he would still be the starter. So if either Allen or Rosen were there at the 10 spot Miami would have drafted one of them. I do understand that they wanted Allen in my opinion which is what a post is i thought until you came along and told me.i wasnt allowed to have one was that it was a mistake and i think we could have used our picks more wisely 1 minute ago, bkep32 said: didnt aaron rodgers sit for you 2 years. he was 1st round qb, Yes he was and he did go look at Aaron Rodgers college stats and his scouting report and then compare them to Allen's and come back n we will talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.diehards.com/national/film-room-josh-allen-good-bad-ugly-mysterious-nfl-draft-prospect/amp I read the article and nowhere in it does it state that it will take Allen two years to develop. Perhaps you could copy and paste the sentence because I didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Mods, can one of you guys close the screen door? All the bugs are getting in. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: I do understand that they wanted Allen in my opinion which is what a post is i thought until you came along and told me.i wasnt allowed to have one was that it was a mistake and i think we could have used our picks more wisely 4 Are you drunk or stoned? Return when you sober up and can structure a sentence so others can understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rebel101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, bkep32 said: woulda coulda shoulda...easy to say that now but i guess your 9-5 job makes you the GM of the year. Yes it sounds all good in theory and that prolly would have been ideal situation sit and wait and let allen or rosen fall but why take that risk and then you have the chance to miss out on your QB when u do that...ala big ben..we didnt move up to get him and he went few picks before us. If we sat pat and 4 qbs gone before we pick at 12...bills mafia would have strung beane up and then you would have been the one why didnt we give up our 2 seconds to move up. So just be happy for the bills for once instead of always playing armchair GM Not at all they did what they thought was best i believe it was a mistake which im allowed to think and i would have been happy if we came out the first round without a project QB and all our picks other people would have been furious but we've been here before when the fan base wanteda QB so bad a we got JP Losman and EJ manuel so to give it all up for Josh Allen the biggest boom or bust of this draft isn't something i felt comfortable with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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