BigBuff423 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) I realize while we're all foaming and frothing at the mouth about a QB for the Draft, this might be an under utilized subject, but found it interesting. Beane has said they were limiting spending due to the dead money and Cap position that dead money put them in. Also, it goes to the heart of his philosophy that you build a team through the Draft. But, in the event a trade were to happen FOR an existing NFL player, I just wanted to put this out there that despite our sometimes freakish obsession about the Cap position for the Bills, there is still plenty of money out there for them to make moves if they so choose. To me also worthy of note are the Jets, who are 7th at $21.8 million which when you consider how much Cap space they had to start FA, speaks volumes to their philosophy: WIN NOW TO SAVE ALL OUR JOBS!!!!! Count me among the few who thought the Jets trading up to 3 was a fools move and based in fear. I like what Beane is doing...but, I am biased. Edit: Per Field Yates - Twitter-verse Edited April 25, 2018 by BigBuff423 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I have no idea what you're saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Withholding judgement here until I see what our GM either does or doesn't do. I can live with sitting at 12 and taking anybody there that they feel is worthy of the pick. Trading 3 or 4 picks to move up for Allen... I think that I'd have a big problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will-GM-for-food Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Enter Dez Bryant? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 59 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I realize while we're all foaming and frothing at the mouth about a QB for the Draft, this might be an under utilized subject, but found it interesting. Beane has said they were limiting spending due to the dead money and Cap position that dead money put them in. Also, it goes to the heart of his philosophy that you build a team through the Draft. But, in the event a trade were to happen FOR an existing NFL player, I just wanted to put this out there that despite our sometimes freakish obsession about the Cap position for the Bills, there is still plenty of money out there for them to make moves if they so choose. To me also worthy of note are the Jets, who are 7th at $21.8 million which when you consider how much Cap space they had to start FA, speaks volumes to their philosophy: WIN NOW TO SAVE ALL OUR JOBS!!!!! Count me among the few who thought the Jets trading up to 3 was a fools move and based in fear. I like what Beane is doing...but, I am biased. Edit: Per Field Yates - Twitter-verse that's interesting..close to $40M dead and still with some sizable room. But if we keep all our picks, some of that gets eaten into a bit I am guessing. I like what Beane is doing, think it will take another year or two to truly come to fruition, but I believe he is setting this team up for long term success with modern views on the economics of the draft and what positions to draft vs pay in FA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 After the draft there is always teams willing to deal. FA's that are left also tend to sign for a little less. Beane will upgrade a position or 2 after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorMKC Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Do you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) With all the focus on the draft, who are the best available free agent LB’s, interior OL, and WR’s? Edited April 25, 2018 by BuffaloRebound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Thanks to Brandon undoing the cap hell Whaley put us in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Ya. Let's sign dez so we can take wr off early pick list and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, PastorMKC said: Do you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: I realize while we're all foaming and frothing at the mouth about a QB for the Draft, this might be an under utilized subject, but found it interesting. Beane has said they were limiting spending due to the dead money and Cap position that dead money put them in. Also, it goes to the heart of his philosophy that you build a team through the Draft. But, in the event a trade were to happen FOR an existing NFL player, I just wanted to put this out there that despite our sometimes freakish obsession about the Cap position for the Bills, there is still plenty of money out there for them to make moves if they so choose. To me also worthy of note are the Jets, who are 7th at $21.8 million which when you consider how much Cap space they had to start FA, speaks volumes to their philosophy: WIN NOW TO SAVE ALL OUR JOBS!!!!! Count me among the few who thought the Jets trading up to 3 was a fools move and based in fear. I like what Beane is doing...but, I am biased. Edit: Per Field Yates - Twitter-verse The Jets move was clearly to prevent a division rival ( also QB needy) from jumping ahead of them in the draft order. Call it fear or whatever, but it was absolutely legitimate. If they didn't cough up what the Colts were asking , the Bills would be sitting at 3 right now. If they get a good QB, no one will think about the 3 2nd rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, White Linen said: I have no idea what you're saying. Sorry, seemed obvious: despite rumors of Bills being Cap poor, there is still quite a bit of money in the till...presuming about 9-10 million for Draft picks, that leaves about 9-10 million if it's needed, such as trading FOR a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, BigBuff423 said: Sorry, seemed obvious: despite rumors of Bills being Cap poor, there is still quite a bit of money in the till...presuming about 9-10 million for Draft picks, that leaves about 9-10 million if it's needed, such as trading FOR a player. Still quite far off from the top 5 though in terms of $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorMKC Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: The Jets move was clearly to prevent a division rival ( also QB needy) from jumping ahead of them in the draft order. Call it fear or whatever, but it was absolutely legitimate. If they didn't cough up what the Colts were asking , the Bills would be sitting at 3 right now. If they get a good QB, no one will think about the 3 2nd rounders. I disagree on both counts: it was absolutely fear based, IMHO, because they were "afraid" someone would jump ahead and I do NOT think Buffalo would be at 3 given how Beane has let this play out. Because, I think we can safely assume Beane has made the rounds in calling everyone in the top 10 about cost to move up and knew Indy's price and said it was too steep. So, he decided to back out and wait...Jets panicked and paid a big price for a team that is not close to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: The Jets move was clearly to prevent a division rival ( also QB needy) from jumping ahead of them in the draft order. Call it fear or whatever, but it was absolutely legitimate. If they didn't cough up what the Colts were asking , the Bills would be sitting at 3 right now. If they get a good QB, no one will think about the 3 2nd rounders. Gesh !!! They started at #6. If a DE and RB were taken they started out with QB #4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Still quite far off from the top 5 though in terms of $$. Absolutely agree. But that wasn't really the point in my mind, it was more a matter of the Bills not being precluded from making additional transactions should they want to and that despite the narrative the Bills "don't have any Cap space", it's quite the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I disagree on both counts: it was absolutely fear based, IMHO, because they were "afraid" someone would jump ahead and I do NOT think Buffalo would be at 3 given how Beane has let this play out. Because, I think we can safely assume Beane has made the rounds in calling everyone in the top 10 about cost to move up and knew Indy's price and said it was too steep. So, he decided to back out and wait...Jets panicked and paid a big price for a team that is not close to the playoffs. The fear was real. The Bills would be at 3 right now. End of story. They took the Jets offer because they had better picks to give. Indy never had a realistic price for the Bills to pay if the Jets were compliant with their demands. They wanted a chance to take picks from both. If the Jets said " no thanks" , I'd bet the farm the Bills are at pick 3 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Will-GM-for-food said: Enter Dez Bryant? They have more than enough cap room if they want to do it. Bryant will probably get a 2 year 12 million dollar type deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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