John from Riverside Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Frankly I thought tate gave us a bit when asked to play WR as well but I think our WR help is coming in the draft. Zay not being great in his first year is really mucking things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Get a legit QB and WRs will come. We lament on throwing QBs to the fire and then say things like this. Get good WRs and our QB will develop in a real NFL offense instead of tossing it up to KB with no speedsters and route runners getting open 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: We lament on throwing QBs to the fire and then say things like this. Get good WRs and our QB will develop in a real NFL offense instead of tossing it up to KB with no speedsters and route runners getting open No I am saying once you get a legit QB that can run an offense, then the destination becomes more ideal for WRs in terms of UFAs VET WRs are better for that young WR Edited April 4, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: No I am saying once you get a legit QB that can run an offense, then the destination becomes more ideal for WRs in terms of UFAs VET WRs are better for that young WR Agree. But we never got or shoot for a vet WR mayhaps KB. was calling for Terrell Pryor. Anyways it's always chicken and egg with that. Admittedly the quarterback is 75% the egg that came first. But that 25% is a good chunk more important than TBD wants to admit. I knew the game scoring against the jags would be ultra low scoring. Bortles and tyrod. 2 great secondaries. 2 bad WR corps. A plaxico burress playoff performance wins that game with any competent quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Theres a lot of good wide outs ypu can find in later rounds but i hope our 3rd or 2nd pick is a WR to challenge zj. Main focus is trading up for a top qb prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb62 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 12-Ridley, 22-Boise LB, 2nd round Richmond QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Hopkins Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: Recent history has shown that WRs tend to be overvalued by fans, and not so much by winning teams. Seahawks best WR is a 5th Round player, Pats didn't win it all with Cooks hence the trade, Watkins has done squat, Odell is great but he doesn't move the needle toward wins, Mike Evans has been a beast and the team can't even be taken seriously in their own division which is weak outside of the Saints. WR position has become the equivalent of the RB position 5 years ago....find a value guy, and you'll succeed. Thielen, Kupp, Antonio Brown, Keenan Allen...yes there is Julio and AJ Green, but they are the exception. Bills have some depth and can and will probably Draft another decent WR....all good. Almost everything in this post is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Why does a WR have to be a good returner? I want lots of pass catches not groundings of kick-offs in the end zone. Anyone can do the latter. As far as punts go, very few can do much with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 4 hours ago, billsfan11 said: Little off topic but why did a lot of people dislike Tate? I thought he was a solid punt returner. As a kick returner he struggled, I’ll give you that tate is imo, under rated as a receiver. he can be a sneaky big play once in a while and deep too.... 1 hour ago, Herb62 said: 12-Ridley, 22-Boise LB, 2nd round Richmond QB i'm ok with this,but we gotta get a dt in here at some spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GymShorts84 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Any Syracuse fans have a thought on Steve Ishmael in the later rounds? I thought he was a man amongst boys in many games I watched. He seemed to get a bunch of Offensive Pass Interference called on him, but only because he was so much more physical than the DB's he faced. He didn't get a combine invite, which doesn't see right after a monster senior year. He showed up against big time talent. 11 catches against LSU, 12 against Florida State, 6 for 70 yds and a score in the Clemson upset. A Syracuse diehard might have a better take on him. http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3123992/steve-ishmael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I think if they have a 2nd or 3rd to use, they’ll go for James Washington. Senior, captain, deep ball threat, something a bit different from the rest of our receiving corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I think Beane is going to look for post draft cuts at reciever. I'm sure we will draft one at some point as well. I think quarterback and middle linebacker are greater concerns. I think that KB is much better than the injured, "I have to play with a guy who can't throw" version of KB we saw last year. And they obviously expect a different season from Zay Jones in year two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 5 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: Recent history has shown that WRs tend to be overvalued by fans, and not so much by winning teams. Seahawks best WR is a 5th Round player, Pats didn't win it all with Cooks hence the trade, Watkins has done squat, Odell is great but he doesn't move the needle toward wins, Mike Evans has been a beast and the team can't even be taken seriously in their own division which is weak outside of the Saints. WR position has become the equivalent of the RB position 5 years ago....find a value guy, and you'll succeed. Thielen, Kupp, Antonio Brown, Keenan Allen...yes there is Julio and AJ Green, but they are the exception. Bills have some depth and can and will probably Draft another decent WR....all good. Doug Baldwin is a good receiver man. It's not about one guy, it's depth. We have neither the guy or depth. But I grow eeary of my admitted crusade. I just believe strongly a quart back needs a break from a great WR to get in a rythm. Not to mention it helps if your first 2 reads can. Actually get open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 5 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I think Braxton Berrios has a skillset that Daboll will want, and he can be had in the later rounds. Would be a great pick imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 4 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: I don't completely agree with that, but of that's the case then we were horribly inept at getting WR depth. That's like saying deonte Thompson last year was like a montee ball 5 years ago. If they're a dime a dozen we certainly didn't land anyone with promise. Or seem to be making any attempt now. So what would you call Kelvin Benjamin? And while Zay has a rough Rookie year, he also had a torn labrum. Additionally, NFL history has shown some of the greatest WRs of all time have had poor Rookie campaigns. So there’s still time for Zay to reveal his true value. Bills need to add talent at WR, but there is still the Draft and FAs yet to be claimed. 2 hours ago, Julio Hopkins said: Almost everything in this post is wrong. Factually, you’ll need to explain or simply abstain from making a comment if you’re not going to clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: So what would you call Kelvin Benjamin? A 1008 yard at best injury prone WR who got traded because cam was MVP without him and thought funchess was the better player. I sent him as pretty much just a great red zone target Edited April 5, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 22 hours ago, billsfan11 said: Little off topic but why did a lot of people dislike Tate? I thought he was a solid punt returner. As a kick returner he struggled, I’ll give you that Every team struggled with kickoffs. The rule change the league made a couple years ago made it tougher to have a great kickoff return. If a returner tried to return a kick that reached the end zone, the odds of having a successful return (getting the ball past the 25 yard line were very slim. If I were a special teams coordinator, I would tell my returner, "If you're catching it in the end zone, down it there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Every team struggled with kickoffs. The rule change the league made a couple years ago made it tougher to have a great kickoff return. If a returner tried to return a kick that reached the end zone, the odds of having a successful return (getting the ball past the 25 yard line were very slim. If I were a special teams coordinator, I would tell my returner, "If you're catching it in the end zone, down it there." Yeah Tate was good. I don't want a home run hitter liable to fumble. Just a guy that doesn't messes up and gets the 10 20 extra yards he can. Unless it's devin hester or desean Jackson. Not leodis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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