RyanC883 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Not at 12. Take Vea, and likely get him at 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Derwin James is the chess piece coveted by most every team. TE's and HB's are in vogue now. And hybrid LB/S and CB/S are valued on defense. Power forwards running wheel routes- fight fire with fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Having just now, late at night, watched the youtube "film" on all the relevant LBs, including #3 from FSU, I would like to offer the following very technical and high-level analysis: Derwin James looks fast and capable against the pass; nearly his entire highlight package contains him making plays against called passes and QBs improvising off of called passing plays. He flashes brilliantly against the pass. But very few of these highlights reveal downhill run stops and gap integrity. You know, boring, traditional linebacker stuff. Rashaan Evans, on the other hand, has a youtube reel filled with shooting gaps, setting and/or blowing up the edge, sifting through traffic to make plays at or behind the LOS, etc., in ADDITION to zone drops and buzzes to the flats and passing game disruptions all over the field. Looks like Evans, just for example, is already primed to be a MIKE on any and every down. Looks like James is ready to play a hybrid/nickel role whose game is less multifaceted, at least early on. 10 minutes ago, Pete said: Derwin James is the chess piece coveted by most every team. TE's and HB's are in vogue now. And hybrid LB/S and CB/S are valued on defense. Power forwards running wheel routes- fight fire with fire Agreed, but at 12? At 12 you're looking for an EVERY down impact LB, no? A guy who excels against the run and the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Derwin James is underrated by a lot of people. He is a top 10 talent in this draft without a doubt. But he is a safety. He is nothing like Deion Jones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 When I see the word "hybrid" I think "late round pick" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Looks like James is ready to play a hybrid/nickel role whose game is less multifaceted, at least early on. Agreed, but at 12? At 12 you're looking for an EVERY down impact LB, no? A guy who excels against the run and the pass. They ain't gonna select him at 12. This front office is smarter than that. Edited March 29, 2018 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 hours ago, OJABBA said: When I see the word "hybrid" I think "late round pick" Sounds like the Jabrill Peppers of this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, OJABBA said: They ain't gonna select him at 12. This front office is smarter than that. Derwin James was a 5 star recruit who is 6'3 215 and ran a 4.7 with a 40" vertical. He is compared to Patrick Peterson and Jalen Ramsey. Not to mention, it is a position of need. This front office would be stupid not to consider him at 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Pete said: Derwin James was a 5 star recruit who is 6'3 215 and ran a 4.7 with a 40" vertical. He is compared to Patrick Peterson and Jalen Ramsey. Not to mention, it is a position of need. This front office would be stupid not to consider him at 12 Then, who plays QB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Then, who plays QB? Lamar Jackson, silly! Please try to keep up with the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I like the player, as a safety, he'll be real good. But with our QB, LB, and WR needs, I don't see it happening. He's not playing LB on first down, and we'd likely need to use pick 12 to get him, so I think that pretty much closes the door on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Then, who plays QB? I would consider that position too at 12. If that value is not there, I go with highest rated my board. What team could not use Patrick Peterson? We have plenty more draft picks, and maybe they like a QB outside top 4. As far as your question, open battle between AJ McCarron, whichever QB we draft, and Nathan Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Lamar Jackson, silly! Please try to keep up with the rest of us. Ok. How do you plan on drafting Jackson if you take Derwin James at 12? There's no way Jackson lasts that long and he could go to Arizona at 15 or Miami at 11 before the 12th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Ok. How do you plan on drafting Jackson if you take Derwin James at 12? There's no way Jackson lasts that long and he could go to Arizona at 15 or Miami at 11 before the 12th pick. There is a chance he is there at 22. And we have plenty of chips to move up to top 15 to secure Jackson if that is their dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Pete said: I would consider that position too at 12. If that value is not there, I go with highest rated my board. What team could not use Patrick Peterson? We have plenty more draft picks, and maybe they like a QB outside top 4. As far as your question, open battle between AJ McCarron, whichever QB we draft, and Nathan Peterman One little problem with that: every other QB outside the top 4 absolutely sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: One little problem with that: every other QB outside the top 4 absolutely sucks. and you know this how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I still say the guy you're looking for is Oren Burks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Pete said: and you know this how? He's a detective dammit! It's his job to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, TOboy said: I like the player, as a safety, he'll be real good. But with our QB, LB, and WR needs, I don't see it happening. He's not playing LB on first down, and we'd likely need to use pick 12 to get him, so I think that pretty much closes the door on this. NFL teams run the nickel as a base defense 65% of the time. I am ok with a nickel defense of Derwin James, Tre'Davious, Poyer, Vontae Davis, and Micah Hyde. That would be one of best in NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pete said: and you know this how? Did you enjoy watching Tyrod Taylor for the last 3 seasons? Because, that's what you're getting with Jackson - he just happens to be 2, 3 inches taller than Taylor. Rudolph and Luke Falk are nothing more than system QBs who will likely struggle mightily in the NFL. Mike White and Kyle Lauletta are a couple of small school jamokes who beat up on pathetic teams and people (e.g. billspro) are enamored with their videogame like stats. Their ceiling in the NFL is backup, at best. Edited March 29, 2018 by Buffalo Bills Detective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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