Boatdrinks Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Anyone consider this?? I have brought it up. Then someone chimes in that I'm looking for a reason not to like Rosen etc. what I think means squat. It could be at least an issue to some team about to make a big investment, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 There are a lot of Rosen homers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Anyone consider this?? The more chatter around this aspect of Rosen's resume, the more I expect him to have a good career...with a team that passed on him for thinking just like Tucker and the other 'gurus' who dwell on his leadership ability. The NFL is littered with stars who fell in the draft (i.e., Rogers, Thurmal) because of doubts about their ability... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lurker said: The more chatter around this aspect of Rosen's resume, the more I expect him to have a good career...with a team that passed on him for thinking just like Tucker and the other 'gurus' who dwell on his leadership ability. The NFL is littered with stars who fell in the draft (i.e., Rogers, Thurmal) because of doubts about their ability... The NFL is also littered with stars who drafted high and flopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meazy26 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hasn’t basically every player who’s ever played football suffered from multiple concussions? Overblown, imo. And Ivy doctor money doesn’t come close to star NFL QB money... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lurker said: The more chatter around this aspect of Rosen's resume, the more I expect him to have a good career...with a team that passed on him for thinking just like Tucker and the other 'gurus' who dwell on his leadership ability. The NFL is littered with stars who fell in the draft (i.e., Rogers, Thurmal) because of doubts about their ability... Interesting. I'm not sure why chatter ( there's always plenty on both sides of these players) would change one's expectation one way or the other. If you tried, you could probably find equal amounts of tweets etc both positive and negative. Most NFL players were passed on by more than one team. It doesn't mean a thing. They can either play or they can't. 1 minute ago, Meazy26 said: Hasn’t basically every player who’s ever played football suffered from multiple concussions? Overblown, imo. And Ivy doctor money doesn’t come close to star NFL QB money... No , it doesn't. But he could have influences from that direction and a high pick still gets a sizeable bonus. Some guys may be more easily swayed into early retirement . We're seeing more of this in the NFL now than in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meazy26 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 If this foolish chatter makes Rosen drop and less expensive in a trade up, I’m game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 20 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Trade us Eli then ! careful this could get you ridiculed and belittled. 20 hours ago, whatdrought said: My mistake. I didn't know you knew for sure. As a member of the Broncos front office he was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Pat Shurmur and Mike Shula from Giants were there today at the Sam Darnold Pro Day and took him out to dinner Monday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 20 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I wouldn’t hate that I think I would like it as well. Some posters made some valid points to me tho. The compensation might be higher than the value due to age and money. We may not have the supporting cast he would need. Last season showed he can't elevate a team like Rogers or Brady. 20 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I would. He not the prototypical QB that Beane prefers. Smoke screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 33 minutes ago, Lurker said: The more chatter around this aspect of Rosen's resume, the more I expect him to have a good career...with a team that passed on him for thinking just like Tucker and the other 'gurus' who dwell on his leadership ability. The NFL is littered with stars who fell in the draft (i.e., Rogers, Thurmal) because of doubts about their ability... I don't care about that stuff. I'm concerned about his concussion history. I wasn't aware he had two last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 20 hours ago, whatdrought said: I don't much go for the "reports." Also, I have heard that the Jets prefer Allen. It's all relative at this point. It would be hysterical if they took a guy that came out of USC early and was a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: I think I would like it as well. Some posters made some valid points to me tho. The compensation might be higher than the value due to age and money. We may not have the supporting cast he would need. Last season showed he can't elevate a team like Rogers or Brady. Smoke screen? They need to examine all of these guys and I have no doubt that they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 At least we know that Rosen doesn’t fight for Jesus. He’d be a great selection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 19 hours ago, pimp on da' net said: Some TBD members have access to every teams draft boards (sarcasm). High Level Business meetings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Meazy26 said: Hasn’t basically every player who’s ever played football suffered from multiple concussions? Overblown, imo. And Ivy doctor money doesn’t come close to star NFL QB money... Rosen’s family are also the heirs to some pretty decent fortunes, but I still never understood the Rosen doesn’t need the NFL theory. NFL starting QB contracts are a nice deal, and if the dude has any drive at all it would feel good to actually earn his own money. Most NFL QB’s come from decent financially soild backgrounds. Many of these guys would have options outside of football. They might not come from the wealth of Rosen, but none of these guys “need” football to have a decent upper middle class life. The NFL just takes it to a different level. Edited March 21, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Putin said: That’s what I’m afraid of , I think Jets want Mayfield , If that’s the case ( God please ) anyone but Rosen !!! I wouldn’t even want him at 22 , Not my first choice but if Mayfield, Allen and Rudolph aren't on the board then top ten trade for Rosen works for me. My only concerns there are health and commitment. I just don't want to give up a ton and risk that he has a short career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Anyone consider this?? http://newsok.com/article/5470271 47 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Pat Shurmur and Mike Shula from Giants were there today at the Sam Darnold Pro Day and took him out to dinner Monday night I could certainly see a scenario where Darnold is viewed as the "can't miss" guy of the draft class and once Cleveland announces they are taking him, either formally or informally, the bidding on #2 opens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I have a really tough time believing the Giants will be passing on a QB. This team was 3-13 last year. Yet people think are trying to "win now." Their roster isn't remotely close to Super Bowl level. Eli Manning is 37 years old. He played poorly in 2016 and then played even worse last year. He's done. The Giants are telling everyone one thing, but they are in prime position to take their QB of the future. And they know it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: It's all a smokescreen because they're drafting Auburn kicker Daniel Carlson at 12. That way we can trade House money for multiple 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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