Buffalo716 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Lamar Jackson took the football world by storm as a Sophomore and won the Heisman Trophy in the process... The spindly Jackson has the speed of a sprinter, the elusiveness of a RB and a quick release to boot OVERVIEW The 6'2 QB is 215 pounds of dynamite. He is a legitimate threat to score every time he takes off. He Is comfortable playing under center and making pro reads Has improved his accuracy and decision making yearly Quick release with the ability to drive the ball Has improved holding safeties and LBrs with his eyes Can float passes into safeties hands Has a hard time with touch over LBrs and in front of safeties Can underthrow deep ball very inconsistent accuracy on the move PROS - high end athlete -works under center -improved accuracy yearly -snappy delivery -Forces QB spy at all times -can look off safeties -TD threat evertime he takes off - Pocket Poise has improved yearly -Improved pre snap reads yearly -Gamer CONS - can float passes into safeties - needs work on intermediate touch - can underthrow deep ball - inconsistent accuracy when on the move - sometimes struggles to get to 3rd read - passes batted at LoS -can be lax in setup - needs to learn to slide -narrower base on setup BOTTOM LINE Lamar Jackson is a highly skilled individual who does not fit every teams needs. He possesses big time boom or bust potential for whoever decides to draft him and sitting should be in his best interest... especially to adapt to the speed of the NFL... even though his unique play style may lead to early success His Unique skill set will land him in the first round GRADE 78.9 Edited March 23, 2018 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Cleveland baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Cleveland baby! I'm so confident that Cleveland won't draft Jackson that I would bet Kirby's pay check for the next year if it happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Seems like you view him as a similar prospect as Rudolph, which seem fair. Which one do you take if the Bills are stuck with Rudolph, White, or Jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, billspro said: Seems like you view him as a similar prospect as Rudolph, which seem fair. Which one do you take if the Bills are stuck with Rudolph, White, or Jackson? Jackson has the biggest ceiling of all 3 imo and he also has the physical edge I'm 3/4 done with white so I don't have a final conclusion yet Rudolph is just steady as she goes... doesn't get too high , doesn't get too low... makes throws to all parts of the field ... lot of starting experience.. If you want a pocket passer I think it's Rudolph or White... if you want to bring in a new age off football you might go Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 7 hours ago, billspro said: Seems like you view him as a similar prospect as Rudolph, which seem fair. Which one do you take if the Bills are stuck with Rudolph, White, or Jackson? None. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxdee Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Plz take Lamar @12 Buffalo! In Daboll's college offence, I think he could do wonders. Him and Shady running the option, and throwing bombs to Benjamin and Clay. So good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Exxdee said: Plz take Lamar @12 Buffalo! In Daboll's college offence, I think he could do wonders. Him and Shady running the option, and throwing bombs to Benjamin and Clay. So good News flash!!! Did you know that Sean McDermott coached on teams that had McNabb, Vick and Cam as their QBs?? Prepare to be shocked Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: None. You are a recalcitrant. Go to your room and don't come out until you become more flexible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, the skycap said: News flash!!! Did you know that Sean McDermott coached on teams that had McNabb, Vick and Cam as their QBs?? Prepare to be shocked Barbarian The Bills have been talking about pocket passers all offseason. McDermott is also in recorded saying he knows the limitations of running QBs because he has worked with them in the past. Jackson sails more passes on tape than any other top QB prospect in the past few drafts. Just be ready for that if we draft him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JohnC said: You are a recalcitrant. Go to your room and don't come out until you become more flexible. Never!!! Edited March 20, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Never!!! You will be the epitome of flexibility after you get your bottom ferociously belt whipped. I can guarantee it that your stubborn behavior will turn into compliant behavior. Sore arses have a tendency to make people come around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JohnC said: You will be the epitome of flexibility after you get your bottom ferociously belt whipped. I can guarantee it that your stubborn behavior will turn into compliant behavior. Sore arses have a tendency to make people come around. If the military couldn't do it no one can hahahahaha !!! Edited March 20, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: If the military couldn't do it no one can hahahahahana !!! You can't be a Marine. Because with your attitude you would either be mutilated or quite possibly dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, JohnC said: You can't be a Marine. Because with your attitude you would either be mutilated or quite possibly dead. Navy and I did get in tons of trouble, but when you're right you're right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Navy and I did get in tons of trouble, but when you're right you're right I'm surprised that you weren't court martialed on a ship with the sentence being tying an anchor to your waste and throwing you overboard. The benefit to the shipmates is one less incorrigible and obstinate sailor to deal with. A secondary benefit is an additional bunk to add to the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnC said: I'm surprised that you weren't court martialed on a ship with the sentence being tying an anchor to your waste and throwing you overboard. The benefit to the shipmates is one less incorrigible and obstinate sailor to deal with. A secondary benefit is an additional bunk to add to the mix. They were too stupid for that, and was the reason I got out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: They were too stupid for that, and was the reason I got out. So you transferred your obstinacy from the military to civilian life. Is it true your middle name is "incorrigible" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnC said: So you transferred your obstinacy from the military to civilian life. Is it true your middle name is "incorrigible" ? Yep Lol !I It must be in the genes, my son was diagnosed with ODD - oppositional defiant disorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Yep Lol !I It must be in the genes, my son was diagnosed with ODD - oppositional defiant disorder My niece had a son who fell into that ODD spectrum. He was a handful. With special programs in school and a lot of patience he steadily came around. He still has some quirks revolving around stubbornness. When I went to California to visit my niece and her family I was stunned how he evolved. He is a wonderful kid and made tremendous progress on how he interacts with people. The challenge was to channel him into areas of his interests. When he is interested in something he becomes very committed. On the problematic side is when he isn't interested in something he can be a mule. To be honest I was very concerned how his life was going to develop. After the visit I came away without a doubt that he is going to be a success in life not only because he is talented in certain areas but more so because he has a good heart. The moral of the story for me is not to give up on a person and to love without conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 56 minutes ago, JohnC said: My niece had a son who fell into that ODD spectrum. He was a handful. With special programs in school and a lot of patience he steadily came around. He still has some quirks revolving around stubbornness. When I went to California to visit my niece and her family I was stunned how he evolved. He is a wonderful kid and made tremendous progress on how he interacts with people. The challenge was to channel him into areas of his interests. When he is interested in something he becomes very committed. On the problematic side is when he isn't interested in something he can be a mule. To be honest I was very concerned how his life was going to develop. After the visit I came away without a doubt that he is going to be a success in life not only because he is talented in certain areas but more so because he has a good heart. The moral of the story for me is not to give up on a person and to love without conditions. Yeah, I Was There too, but he is a lot better now that he is focused on custom car building. His brother though is even worse but in a different way. He has Aspergers and right now know matter what we tell him he still keeps doing the same stupid stuff over and over and over. It very frustrating right now but we are working with special services on getting him a job and housing and hopefully living own his own we get him to straighten up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) If McDermott and Beane like him, I'm all in. Edited March 20, 2018 by Sky Diver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I'm more and more liking the idea of staying at 12 and grabbing Jackson or Mayfield if he falls. Jackson has improved each year as a passer, runs the same offense as the Bills will, and adds that extra threat of the run. I've said it many times but even if it is Allen at this point the Bills have actually earned my trust to make the right decision. I can't believe I just typed that after the last 30 years but I'll give credit where credit is due. Now hit a homer on the qb pick!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 2:23 PM, section122 said: I'm more and more liking the idea of staying at 12 and grabbing Jackson or Mayfield if he falls. Jackson has improved each year as a passer, runs the same offense as the Bills will, and adds that extra threat of the run. I've said it many times but even if it is Allen at this point the Bills have actually earned my trust to make the right decision. I can't believe I just typed that after the last 30 years but I'll give credit where credit is due. Now hit a homer on the qb pick!!! I think the strategy has been to move up, but I’ve come to trust these guys and pray they make the correct decision. Heck, I won’t get fired if they mess up, but it will still sting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 9:52 AM, JohnC said: I'm so confident that Cleveland won't draft Jackson that I would bet Kirby's pay check for the next year if it happened. Praying to every god available including zeus it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Praying to every god available including zeus it happens. Don't be a hater. Kirby can't afford the loss. He needs the extra coin to do the manly strut in the N'Orleans casinos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On March 19, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Buffalo716 said: Jackson has the biggest ceiling of all 3 imo and he also has the physical edge I'm 3/4 done with white so I don't have a final conclusion yet Rudolph is just steady as she goes... doesn't get too high , doesn't get too low... makes throws to all parts of the field ... lot of starting experience.. If you want a pocket passer I think it's Rudolph or White... if you want to bring in a new age off football you might go Jackson https://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2018/3/23/17154768/nfl-draft-video-lamar-jackson-quarterback-you-will-regret-passing-on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, the skycap said: https://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2018/3/23/17154768/nfl-draft-video-lamar-jackson-quarterback-you-will-regret-passing-on Ok. I never endorsed him at all or said I wanted him... he asked me about 3 QBs and I said Jackson had the highest ceiling of the 3 i never once ever said the Bills should draft Lamar Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 10:13 PM, billspro said: The Bills have been talking about pocket passers all offseason. McDermott is also in recorded saying he knows the limitations of running QBs because he has worked with them in the past. Jackson sails more passes on tape than any other top QB prospect in the past few drafts. Just be ready for that if we draft him. Seriously, there is a lot of local radio media that have fans convinced that Jackson is some sort of prolific passer. Bulldog when referencing Jackson yesterday actually said "throws the ball all over the field", like he is Rodgers or something. People are going to be very disappointed with Jackson as a passer if we take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Ok. I never endorsed him at all or said I wanted him... he asked me about 3 QBs and I said Jackson had the highest ceiling of the 3 i never once ever said the Bills should draft Lamar Jackson You are correct 716, Jackson HAS the highest ceiling and the Bills SHOULD draft him. The guy in the video I just posted said just that. He's saying that Lamar is being underrated as a passer by others and that teams will be stupid to pass him by. 9 hours ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Seriously, there is a lot of local radio media that have fans convinced that Jackson is some sort of prolific passer. Bulldog when referencing Jackson yesterday actually said "throws the ball all over the field", like he is Rodgers or something. People are going to be very disappointed with Jackson as a passer if we take him. It seems Bulldog has done his homework. Kelly you should watch the video I posted above from a Chargers fan. He's laying out a case for Jackson like he's Perry Mason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, the skycap said: You are correct 716, Jackson HAS the highest ceiling and the Bills SHOULD draft him. The guy in the video I just posted said just that. He's saying that Lamar is being underrated as a passer by others and that teams will be stupid to pass him by. It seems Bulldog has done his homework. Kelly you should watch the video I posted above from a Chargers fan. He's laying out a case for Jackson like he's Perry Mason. It will be an interesting few weeks... i thought the video said whoever takes him will regret it not vice versa Edited March 24, 2018 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: It will be an interesting few weeks... i thought the video said whoever takes him will regret it not vice versa He was saying they'll regret NOT taking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 2:21 AM, JohnC said: You will be the epitome of flexibility after you get your bottom ferociously belt whipped. I can guarantee it that your stubborn behavior will turn into compliant behavior. Sore arses have a tendency to make people come around. Your kink is ok????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 51 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Your kink is ok????? Periodically, Buffalo Barbarian needs to be disciplined . It is not done out of malice but done for benevolent reasons. He is a very odd fellow. Very often after the disciplinary sessions he pleadingly asks me to do it again. I want to make it clear that I am not a sadist. However, he may be a masochist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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