mileena Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: OR... he’s extremely confident in his abilities and has an overwhelming sense of disproving people when their opinions are false. Especially guys that have never played the game before and just shoot out generic “he’s too small” responses every time his name comes up. Yes, he may very well have extreme confidence and should be proud of that, but I think it is unhealthy to be focusing on proving others wrong. Maybe that is a trait he can overcome or maybe it won't affect his life as he matures. I hope I am wrong and it turns out all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, mileena said: Well, of course I can't diagnose him, but I have a personality disorder, so I am familiar with them and the DSM and know how to use the term.. Well.... On a humanistic side of things and without knowing you - I truly hope you are (continue to be) successful in your endeavors. However, there is NOTHING about his actions that speak to a personality disorder either using the DMS IV or the newest DSM 5. I just think that people go to great lengths to prove their point about someone's mental stability to support their draft accumen. I think it is lazy and wrong to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mileena said: Yes, he may very well have extreme confidence and should be proud of that, but I think it is unhealthy to be focusing on proving others wrong. Maybe that is a trait he can overcome or maybe it won't affect his life as he matures. I hope I am wrong and it turns out all good. Hey, you’re entitled to your opinion I just disagree. I personally don’t want him to change a bit. I think in sports, especially aggressive sports it’s perfectly acceptable to get added motivation in this way. Edited March 31, 2018 by Bobby Hooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Different kind of angst altogether than what drove Thurman and Brady. It's one thing to have a chip on your shoulder to prove something, whole other story keeping a list and stewing and "drawing lines" that are crossed, etc. Unhealthy, immature, and not a good characteristic in leadership. For those comparing to Trump. Barf. His pettiness and unprofessionalism has nothing to do with an election victory, and has since proven to be a horrible leader. Not what I want in a president or a prospective franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 3 hours ago, H2o said: Brady still carries a chip on his shoulder about everything. Hasn't been too negative for him. By all accounts it is an issue. Brady is able to channel his anger and frustration with negativity. When he looses football he will be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: He is focusing on himself, making himself better to prove the naysayers wrong. But he's not focusing on himself. Focusing on yourself means being deaf to all the criticism, and ignoring the haters. Drawing lines that are crossed and keeping clippings and lists is focusing on the outside static. Not a good sign. Edited March 31, 2018 by DrDawkinstein 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Dalton said: If the chip drives you to excellence, then it is an asset. If it eats your soul and distracts you, not so good. I hope Mayfield is the first as I would like to see him on the Bills. Everything in Mayfield’s career thus far would indicate the chip he has; has indeed driven him to excellence. So I would agree with your first statement that it appears to be an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileena Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Well.... On a humanistic side of things and without knowing you - I truly hope you are (continue to be) successful in your endeavors. However, there is NOTHING about his actions that speak to a personality disorder either using the DMS IV or the newest DSM 5. I just think that people go to great lengths to prove their point about someone's mental stability to support their draft accumen. I think it is lazy and wrong to do so. Thank you for your well wishes. Yeah I agree with the points you made. I think I went too far in saying his behavior is a sign of a personality disorder. And I actually feel he is on par with Rosen for a top prospect. Whether the Bills can get either is another story though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Different kind of angst altogether than what drove Thurman and Brady. It's one thing to have a chip on your shoulder to prove something, whole other story keeping a list and stewing and "drawing lines" that are crossed, etc. Unhealthy, immature, and not a good characteristic in leadership. For those comparing to Trump. Barf. His pettiness and unprofessionalism has nothing to do with an election victory, and has since proven to be a horrible leader. Not what I want in a president or a prospective franchise QB. Political alignments aside, there is a major difference between a man who runs the nation through a network government in cooperation with multiple levels and systems. In a dictatorship you'd have a better alignment. POTUS doesn't run the country. A QB runs the offense. Terrible analogy by those making it. If this dude is going to have anywhere in his head the impressions of those who do not coach him than he is never going to be successful unless he can channel his mentality toward a greater good than he himself is responsible for; as a QB he is a leader by default. Leaders lead internally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 32 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: And you are a licensed mental health professional to know this? Anger is a natural human response. It can motivate OR debilitate depending on one's character. So far for Baker... It has motivated him. PS his TEAMMATES absolutely love him and that says a lot of him as a young man. Also, who knows if he is actually angry about these statements about him or just motivated to prove them all wrong. Though it seems petty, he could more likely be someone that cannot wait for the opportunity to say "I told you so". IMHO, an effective QB is one that exhibits great confidence and personal pride. I played with a guy who used his detractors as fuel and it drove him to the most intense focus ever. He didn't have the inherent skill and athleticism to go beyond being a mid-level college QB, but he took that focus and moved it to the business world and sold his software company for over $200million 4 years ago. I loved playing with him as he didn't take less than your best every day and demanded you improve every single practice. It's awesome to be around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileena Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Hey, you’re entitled to your opinion I just disagree. I personally don’t want him to change a bit. I think in sports, especially aggressive sports it’s perfectly acceptable to get added motivation in this way. Yes, I have never been a top athlete or even a college or high school athlete. Whenever I did play though, people said I was being too nice. So I guess his traits may actually help in that regard. I do respect your opinion too. He probably does have what it takes to be great; I hope I am wrong about some of the mental stuff. Maybe maturity will help him in the coming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 22 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: It's called the Napoleon complex, they say 92% of all people under 6'0 have this in different degrees. Although is could be SPS ( Small Penis Syndrome), either way when your short in those areas your going to have some sort of complex. Napolean wasn't that short btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: Napolean wasn't that short btw By todays standards he certainly was. He was average at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Napolean wasn't that short btw He wouldnt have liked standing next to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: He wouldnt have liked standing next to you My flatulence issue is embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Just now, Boyst62 said: My flatulence issue is embarrassing. Welcome to Sacksonville. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 This whole thing is meaningless. Every player has something that motivates them. Saying his motivation is not going to be successful at the next level is something none of us know. Evidence indicates there is no reason for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrage Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Baker vs Sully you win the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 GunnerBill rated Mayfield as a mid to late 1st round pick. Is he on the list? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: GunnerBill rated Mayfield as a mid to late 1st round pick. Is he on the list? So did I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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