“Conservative” Government Overreach

[The_Dude]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/georgia-senate-approves-tax-bill-snubbing-delta-nra-53446838

 

As a Georgian and a conservative I am indeed horrified at this happy horseshit. 

 

These Republicans told us how how vital Citizens United was. Corporations ‘have a voice!’ Right? Cause that’s what was wrong in this country before — big money not having a place at the table....I digress, anyways, Delta uses their voice to separate from the NRA and Georgian “conservatives” essentially fine them for expressing their opinion because they don’t like it?

 

This is gross. This is NOT about guns — this is about government using its power to fine corporations that have differing views. And that door swings both ways. 

 

Now I know they disguised the fine as a “tax,” but it is what it is. 

 

And how stupid are Georgian politicians? Really stupid. All ya gotta do down here is promise to put the 10 commandments in schools and bitchslap the love of Jesus into the gays. But this is idiotic...why don’t they just tell Delta to ‘take their money, jobs, and value to our city, and GET THE HELL OUT!’ What are these idiots thinking?

 

Again, this is NOT a gun issue. This is a government taxing you because they don’t like you issue. 

[B-Man]

9 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

. This is a government taxing you because they don’t like you issue. 

 

 

Georgia lawmakers killed a proposed tax break on jet fuel that would have saved the airline millions.

 

So NOT treating them special.....................is gross 

 

 

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[Warren Zevon]

Georgia should think twice before Delta moves it's hub

[The_Dude]

21 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Georgia lawmakers killed a proposed tax break on jet fuel that would have saved the airline millions.

 

So NOT treating them special.....................is gross 

 

 

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A break Delta thought they had and were planning on. This is political targeting. And if this is tolerated it will become the new norm. A companies support or lack thereof for a lobbyist group should NOT come into such things. But get cute about it if such things don’t bother you. 

[IDBillzFan]

5 minutes ago, garybusey said:

Georgia should think twice before Delta moves it's hub

 

I'm pretty sure Georgia thought about this long and hard. Delta doesn't just "move its hub." 

[The_Dude]

31 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

I'm pretty sure Georgia thought about this long and hard. Delta doesn't just "move its hub." 

 

Naw, dude. Georgia doesn’t do a lot of thinking when it comes to politics. But that is a valid point. But...if Delta said ‘we’re open to takers’ I’m sure they’d find a sweet deal. 

[Doc Brown]

It was a lose lose for all of these companies that entered into contracts with the NRA to provide discount for its members.  You keep the discount after the shooting and you get a boycott from some on the left.  You cut ties with the NRA and you get a boycott from the right.  Companies would be smart to avoid doing business with controversial political organizations.

[B-Man]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

It was a lose lose for all of these companies that entered into contracts with the NRA to provide discount for its members.  You keep the discount after the shooting and you get a boycott from some on the left.  You cut ties with the NRA and you get a boycott from the right.  Companies would be smart to avoid doing business with controversial political organizations.

 

 

JAZZ SHAW: As corporations lean left, they risk tipping over.

 

The thing is, the executives making these decisions aren’t so concerned with what their customers think, as with what their peers think.

[IDBillzFan]

19 minutes ago, B-Man said:

JAZZ SHAW: As corporations lean left, they risk tipping over.

 

You mean like Guam?

[KD in CA]

I love how ABC news is now aghast at Republicans for shutting down 'corporate welfare'.  

[sherpa]

Georgia has an unusually high state tax on jet fuel.

In 2014, it was .15/gallon, the 11th highest in the nation.

Seems to me, that with such a high rate in comparison to other states, it isn't "corporate welfare."

Normalizing a tax in comparison to what other states charge isn't welfare.

 

Either way, rewarding or punishing corporations for agreeing with a state legislator's view is a long term bad policy.

North Carolina was going to do the same thing to American a few years back for a similar thing, but backed off.

 

Cost to Delta is about $100/flight, about half the cost of the average domestic ticket.

 

[Chandemonium]

7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

It was a lose lose for all of these companies that entered into contracts with the NRA to provide discount for its members.  You keep the discount after the shooting and you get a boycott from some on the left.  You cut ties with the NRA and you get a boycott from the right.  Companies would be smart to avoid doing business with controversial political organizations.

 

I don't think the NRA is controversial, until the left decides to make it so by associating it  with a tragedy it nothing to do with to try to make political hay on the gun control front. The other 99% of the time most people never think about the NRA, and after the 'never think about them' group the next largest group is probably members.

[Warren Zevon]

 

[Nanker]

[Warren Zevon]

epic sir wanker, epic

[Doc Brown]

7 hours ago, Chandemonium said:

 

I don't think the NRA is controversial, until the left decides to make it so by associating it  with a tragedy it nothing to do with to try to make political hay on the gun control front. The other 99% of the time most people never think about the NRA, and after the 'never think about them' group the next largest group is probably members.

I'll respectfully disagree.  Their approval rating if you will has always been between 45 and 55 percent.  The rest believe they support bad policies.  It's always been a controversial group magnified when tragedies happen like Parkland.  I wouldn't be associated with them, the ACLU, planned parenthood, etc... if I owned a business.

[Nanker]

The NRA does more to support gun safety than any other group in the country.

[The_Dude]

1 hour ago, Nanker said:

The NRA does more to support gun safety than any other group in the country.

 

They used to. Now they’re just a lobbyist group. 

[3rdnlng]

11 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

They used to. Now they’re just a lobbyist group. 

Well, you don't need to worry about guns anymore since you are proficient enough with your fists to beat up your Vega.

[Chandemonium]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

I'll respectfully disagree.  Their approval rating if you will has always been between 45 and 55 percent.  The rest believe they support bad policies.  It's always been a controversial group magnified when tragedies happen like Parkland.  I wouldn't be associated with them, the ACLU, planned parenthood, etc... if I owned a business.

I get that it's a controversial organization in the sense that if prompted to think about the NRA people will tend to have strong opinions for or against, but I still don't think that most people think of them outside of the context of events like parkland or being asked directly "hey, what are your thoughts on the NRA?" While I can understand why a business owner wouldn't want to be associated with them due to the possibility of alienating potential customers, I also don't think that under most  normal circumstances most people are considering whether a business supports the NRA or not when deciding which businesses to patronize. I tend to think of the NRA like black jellybeans in that regard. Everyone either loves them or hates them, but no one actually cares until there's a bowl of jellybeans in the room. 

Edited March 2, 2018 by Chandemonium