Magox Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: So far, yeah. Thing is, he's on the Rams if he puts it together. He's 24 years old. I suppose he could. It's just a mystery to me why he hasn't been able to put it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, Magox said: I suppose he could. It's just a mystery to me why he hasn't been able to put it all together. It will come. BTW, I'd rather have Sammy than Zay at this point, his heir apparent on the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: Yes, that would have been perfect. We win 1-2 more games this year to make playoffs, get an equal or better replacement in FA or draft. Perfect. That just doesn't make sense to me. Also, Sammy wasn't healthy at all last year. Played in 8 games, who knows if he'd have been healthy here. Even if we won one or two more games, that's all you want?? No long term success goal?? Just one year of playoffs and then back to having a bunch more needs? You create another need with WR anyway and you don't have the two players that you got from the trade. If Gaines signs a deal and we have the second round pick, that could be two starters filling two needs for the next few years. You'd be fine with having none of that? I guess I just find that foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 52 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: It will come. BTW, I'd rather have Sammy than Zay at this point, his heir apparent on the Bills He didn't act like he wanted to be here. I don't think he would resign here. So, you would've never seen the top talent the guy had after paying two 1st round picks for him and a 4th and gotten nothing as he left in free agency. I'd be screaming at the front office. I'm glad they got something for him. If Gaines resigns (which is possible as he looks like a solid fit in this scheme) and the second round pick becomes a starter, we fill two needs instead of filling none and Sammy leaves. We gotta be a little realistic, the guy wasn't happy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 all of the people that McD and Beane got rid of either didn't want to be here , didn't want to perform, or were not a fit for the "process". I for one am glad they are gone. The I's and me's can be replaced with some we's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Wily Dog said: all of the people that McD and Beane got rid of either didn't want to be here , didn't want to perform, or were not a fit for the "process". I for one am glad they are gone. The I's and me's can be replaced with some we's. Marcell Dareus AFC South Division Champion, Sammy Watkins NFC West Division Champion, Ronald Darby NFC East Division Champion. Process That! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Nice of you to stop by again Russ. I'm sure there are plenty of players on the Bills RIGHT NOW that don't want to be here. Tough ****. You don't just players away because they don't want to be here. It seems that is exactly what they did and probably more will follow. I would hope that the underperforms are gone but if they are not they will be shown the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Marcell Dareus AFC South Division Champion, Sammy Watkins NFC West Division Champion, Ronald Darby NFC East Division Champion. Process That! Haha those teams are wildly talented otherwise. It's not because of those players but good for them. Todd Gurley is an MVP candidate, Carson Wentz was an MVP candidate before injury and the Jags defense as a whole is monsterous led by Calais Campell who some analysts have said should get some defensive player of the year votes. But sure, we can give the credit to these three guys. Dareus with his one sack...far fall from 10 in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said: Haha those teams are wildly talented otherwise. It's not because of those players but good for them. Todd Gurley is an MVP candidate, Carson Wentz was an MVP candidate before injury and the Jags defense as a whole is monsterous led by Calais Campell who some analysts have said should get some defensive player of the year votes. But sure, we can give the credit to these three guys. Dareus with his one sack...far fall from 10 in 2014. Yeah Yeah. Try to rationalize their contributions away. While I'm at it Kevon Seymour and Kaelin Clay are also playoff bound. Edited December 30, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yeah Yeah. Try to rationalize their contribution away. A fairly minimal contribution in all cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yeah Yeah. Try to rationalize their contributions away. While I'm at it Kevon Seymour and Kaelin Clay are also playoff bound. No doubt they've contributed but you're telling me that those teams weren't talented enough even before those players? I mentioned all of the MVP and DPOY candidates. I should also mention Aaron Donald for the Rams, been a monster this year. Those players are benefitting from being on talented teams too dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Wily Dog said: A fairly minimal contribution in all cases. Starting players on playoff teams are minimal contributors. Okay. If that makes you feel better then go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Starting players on playoff teams are minimal contributors. Okay. If that makes you feel better then go for it. I am going for it because their minimal contributions for the Bill's were not up to a playoff caliber player and they proved that on the field. hurray for them that they got on a playoff bound team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, jmc12290 said: It will come. BTW, I'd rather have Sammy than Zay at this point, his heir apparent on the Bills Yeah, and I'd rather have Gaines, a 2nd rounder and millions in cap savings than the underperforming Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Marcell Dareus AFC South Division Champion, Sammy Watkins NFC West Division Champion, Ronald Darby NFC East Division Champion. Process That! Mhmm let me try. Here Dareus was paid and expected to be the impact player on defense. He wasn't. In Jacksonville he is about the 4th best Dlineman and is now a role player. Sammy Watkins is the 4th recieiving option behind Woods, Kupp and Gurley. I know I know poor Sammy faces number 1 corners...and no teams game plan to stop TG. As usual poor Sammy. Ronald Darby missed 8 games, Philly was already well on their way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Marcell Dareus AFC South Division Champion, Sammy Watkins NFC West Division Champion, Ronald Darby NFC East Division Champion. Process That! Wow you're right. Those teams would have sucked without those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Mhmm let me try. Here Dareus was paid and expected to be the impact player on defense. He wasn't. In Jacksonville he is about the 4th best Dlineman and is now a role player. Sammy Watkins is the 4th recieiving option behind Woods, Kupp and Gurley. I know I know poor Sammy faces number 1 corners...and no teams game plan to stop TG. As usual poor Sammy. Ronald Darby missed 8 games, Philly was already well on their way. Just now, Green Lightning said: Wow you're right. Those teams would have sucked without those guys. Feel better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Marcell Dareus AFC South Division Champion, Sammy Watkins NFC West Division Champion, Ronald Darby NFC East Division Champion. Process That! So Marcell, Watkins and Darby were major contributors and a reason why those teams succeeded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, Magox said: Yeah, and I'd rather have Gaines, a 2nd rounder and millions in cap savings than the underperforming Watkins. Gaines is underperforming too. Or do you like paying top end CB to China dolls hurt every other week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Magox said: So Marcell, Watkins and Darby were major contributors and a reason why those teams succeeded? Feel better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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