Jerome007 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Yes, let's ignore Jacksonville and the Raiders. Let's also ignore Tennessee and the Eagles as well, since they're not supporting your point. Do you really have a point here? Oh and the Rams too. Probably shouldn't mention them. Besides the Eagles, which of these teams are Superbowl favorites? They are on the way up.. compared to the ugly place they were. Is it in an improvement? Hell yeah! But a guarantee for being a constantly dominant team? Nope. And they tanked for a few seasons, not just one. And oh let's forget the Browns and other 0-16 teams of the last 10 years. All powerhouses for years to come now, right? My point is, as you still don't get it: tanking does NOT guarantee a return to greatness! And so far, it's your ONLY magical solution. Recall that Bill Bellichick hire and drafting Tom Brady with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round? They needed to tank completely for that to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, NoPlayoffs said: I'm comparing downfield passing attempts...I thought it was pretty clear. If you can't understand that, I don't know how to help you. I mean, it makes sense that you don't understand, but it is what it is. If only checking down was the only thing an NFL QB had to do. If only. Just now, Jerome007 said: Besides the Eagles, which of these teams are Superbowl favorites? They are on the way up.. compared to the ugly place they were. Is it in an improvement? Hell yeah! But a guarantee for being a constantly dominant team? Nope. And they tanked for a few seasons, not just one. And oh let's forget the Browns and other 0-16 teams of the last 10 years. All powerhouses for years to come now, right? My point is, as you still don't get it: tanking does NOT guarantee a return to greatness! And so far, it's your ONLY magical solution. Recall that Bill Bellichick hire and drafting Tom Brady with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round? They needed to tank completely for that to happen? Well then I guess we should just wait until the end of the sixth to take our QB, am i right? What could POSSIBLY go wrong doing that? So by all means, let's do it your way. Let's strive for .500. I'm sure we'll have a great future doing that. It's worked the past 20 years!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: If only checking down was the only thing an NFL QB had to do. If only. Well we know they arent supposed to throw 5 picks in a half.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Besides the Eagles, which of these teams are Superbowl favorites? They are on the way up.. compared to the ugly place they were. Is it in an improvement? Hell yeah! But a guarantee for being a constantly dominant team? Nope. And they tanked for a few seasons, not just one. And oh let's forget the Browns and other 0-16 teams of the last 10 years. All powerhouses for years to come now, right? My point is, as you still don't get it: tanking does NOT guarantee a return to greatness! And so far, it's your ONLY magical solution. Recall that Bill Bellichick hire and drafting Tom Brady with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round? They needed to tank completely for that to happen? Um, Rams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Besides the Eagles, which of these teams are Superbowl favorites? They are on the way up.. compared to the ugly place they were. Is it in an improvement? Hell yeah! But a guarantee for being a constantly dominant team? Nope. And they tanked for a few seasons, not just one. And oh let's forget the Browns and other 0-16 teams of the last 10 years. All powerhouses for years to come now, right? My point is, as you still don't get it: tanking does NOT guarantee a return to greatness! And so far, it's your ONLY magical solution. Recall that Bill Bellichick hire and drafting Tom Brady with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round? They needed to tank completely for that to happen? The Eagles didn't really tank either. They went 7-9, 7-9, 10-6, 10-6, 4-12 in the last 5 years and the year they went 4-12 they selected Fletcher Cox with the 12th pick in the draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: The Eagles didn't really tank either. They went 7-9, 7-9, 10-6, 10-6, 4-12 in the last 5 years and the year they went 4-12 they selected Fletcher Cox with the 12th pick in the draft... AND Carson Wentz. They gutted that team the year they brought in Wentz. Got rid of the chip kelly cancers, like we SHOULD be doing with the Whaley leftovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, joesixpack said: AND Carson Wentz. They gutted that team the year they brought in Wentz. Got rid of the chip kelly cancers, like we SHOULD be doing with the Whaley leftovers. They didn't tank though. They won 7 games and then traded a bunch of picks for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, joesixpack said: AND Carson Wentz. They gutted that team the year they brought in Wentz. Got rid of the chip kelly cancers, like we SHOULD be doing with the Whaley leftovers. Follow the plan of the best team in the NFL who drafted what looks to be the best QB of his generation? No way! Let's keep doing it this way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: They didn't tank though. They won 7 games and then traded a bunch of picks for him. OK, so, let's talk about the upcoming draft. Are you hanging your hat on SF trading with us? Secondary question: how much are you willing to give up to get a QB? Edited November 22, 2017 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: OK, so, let's talk about the upcoming draft. Are you hanging your hat on SF trading with us? 9ers, Colts, Broncos, Giants are all in play depending on the offer and how things shake out in the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: 9ers, Colts, Broncos, Giants are all in play depending on the offer and how things shake out in the last few weeks. Sorry, i was late with the follow-on question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: 9ers, Colts, Broncos, Giants are all in play depending on the offer and how things shake out in the last few weeks. I said yesterday and I stick by it that the Giants aren't going QB in the first round...Colts situation is really up in the air from what I hear. It will clarify over the next couple months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Recall that Bill Bellichick hire and drafting Tom Brady with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round? They needed to tank completely for that to happen? They went 5-11 in Belichick's first season so maybe they were tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: Well we know they arent supposed to throw 5 picks in a half.... 5 pics, constant checkdowns to 3 and out punts, is there really a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Manning has gone for 6TDs to 1INT since Beckham Jr. went down. That's along with the injuries to his other receivers...his main target right now is a rookie TE/WR hybrid. Tough slate of games with Seahawks Rams Broncos Chiefs all since Chargers...dumpster fire is the easy narrative. Bills fans like to complain about our offensive line...watch the Giants and you'll suddenly have a much greater appreciation for them. I'm saying that Eli has been hamstrung, the team has won 2 games and 2 games with under 130 yards passing (yes 1 win). The point was they beat KC and didn't have a TD. Just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said: I think he had too. He almost certainly would have lost the team. I think what took him so long was KC had to wait to prepare fully Losing the team would be cool. We have nothing to gain by a few more wins this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Well, after the next 2 losses (next 2 games), Peterman will be back in. Edited November 22, 2017 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: I'm saying that Eli has been hamstrung, the team has won 2 games and 2 games with under 130 yards passing (yes 1 win). The point was they beat KC and didn't have a TD. Just an observation. I was objecting to your observation of Manning's play since Beckham Jr went down as a 'dumpster fire'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshermw Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said: 5 pics, constant checkdowns to 3 and out punts, is there really a difference? 5 punts x 40 yds each = 200 yds of field position difference. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, moshermw said: 5 punts x 40 yds each = 200 yds of field position difference. Yes. It's been said over and over and over that yards don't mean a damn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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