SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Bangarang said: Where someone was drafted is completely irrelevant and such a horrible point to make. 6th round TB and TT 7th round Fitz. Correct again Bang. 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Oh Jesus. This team was never tanking. They are playing the best they can while building the team in their vision. You called? Tanking is a figment of BBFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: 6th round TB and TT 7th round Fitz. Correct again Bang. Typicaly draft position means nothing but TB is the exception ... TT is turning out to be a 6th round backup/fringe starter and Fitz is a 7th round backup /fringe starter most high quality QBs go fairly early. Atleast in top 2 rounds in modern football romo, Wilson, Brady , Kirk cousins , Dak if you include him are the only recent mid/ late rounders i can think of doesnt mean it cant happen.. it just means most GMs and scouts didn't have faith in those guys to be the guy Edited November 18, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 12 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: I can't really disagree with this. About the only thing that suggested they weren't tanking was the re-signing of Tyrod. That started to look like an extremely weird decision as soon as the Watkins/Darby trade happened. You're right about the unexpected quick start delaying the inevitable. It's almost as if McD is annoyed by that. Sometimes that happens when you bring in hungry players while more talented teams are still figuring things out in September and October ... We needed to sign TT for 1 more year in order to by more time to finish the bridge. Tyrod was never more than a bridge quarterback. We knew it and the coaches knew it. They drafted Peterman this year and I guarantee you they'll draft another quarterback in April. Hopefully someone like Mason Rudolph. I had absolutely no aspirations of us going to the playoffs this year. So right now it's all about developing Peterman. And preparing to draft his competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Ridiculous thread. Welcome aboard, noob.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 15 hours ago, Punt75 said: Figure it out! 70% of the players on the current roster are new to the Bills. 70%! Imagine a company firing 70% of its employees and starting over. And, these new players aren't big-time stars. They came cheap. Humber was a S/T's player most of his career. E.J. Gaines was a 6th round pick 4 years ago. Shareece Wright shouldn't be on an NFL roster. Jordan Poyer was a 7th round pick by the Eagles and then played four years with the Browns before they cut him loose. Ryan Davis & Lorenzo Alexander wouldn't play for many other NFL teams. The Coaches & Management knew this. The FANS realized it to. For some crazy reason we got off to a wonderful start in the season. One reason was turn-overs. They came our way in bunches. Any long time fan knows that all evens out. Tyrod was shaky last year. He looked better with all those turn-overs by the defense this year. We all hoped for a miracle season but real NFL football caught up with us! It's time for a QB change and an offensive strategy re-start. Get the receivers involved and hopefully our most talented player in the backfield will excel. GO BILLS! IOW, almighty McDermott lied with a sincere smile plastered on his face when he claimed they were trying to win games while rebuilding. That sounds about right. Con artists are great actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: most high quality QBs go fairly early. Atleast in top 2 rounds in modern football romo, Wilson, Brady , Kirk cousins , Dak if you include him are the only recent mid/ late rounders i can think of doesnt mean it cant happen.. it just means most GMs and scouts didn't have faith in those guys to be the guy Witch is why I say that the draft is one HUGE gamble. Some strike gold most fools gold. 24 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Ridiculous thread. Welcome aboard, noob.. There seems to be a lot of that going around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: It's a half-assed tank! A schizo-tank! Think about it - re-sign Tyrod: the new regime is gonna go for it in '17! - draft: instead of taking a flyer on a project, we trade down to get a solid 1st year starter (White) and up to get another one (Zay) - then, the big 180: bye-bye Sammy and Darby. Umm, maybe they're giving up on '17 after all? - then, the hot start: hey, it seemed crazy, but this new regime seems to know what they're doing! - then, bye-bye Dareus: wait a minute, weren't we all just saying that you take a good defense, add a healthy Dareus, we're going places? This is a slo-motion tank after all! - then, hello Kelvin Benjamin: I told ya! We are going for it! Dumping that lazy tub of lard Dareus didn't = tanking. It meant upgrading. For right now! - then, benching Tyrod for a 5th round rookie: those bastards tricked us. It was a tank after all! They're actually pissed that they're 5-4. They wanted the freedom that 4-12 brings! It's an emotional roller coaster, I tell ya! How do we Bills fans manage to stay sane?? we don't. I have done a study 4 hours ago, klos63 said: This may be semantics, but they are not tanking- they are doing a total rebuild. The effort was to win now, but the personnel moves were for the future. Next year could be a pretty difficult year. Expect a lot more turnover and many rookies starting. no one here likes the rough ride coming. But better to brace for it. Upside is watching rookies develop. as a Fan i dig that facet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 17 hours ago, Punt75 said: Figure it out! 70% of the players on the current roster are new to the Bills. 70%! Imagine a company firing 70% of its employees and starting over. And, these new players aren't big-time stars. They came cheap. Humber was a S/T's player most of his career. E.J. Gaines was a 6th round pick 4 years ago. Shareece Wright shouldn't be on an NFL roster. Jordan Poyer was a 7th round pick by the Eagles and then played four years with the Browns before they cut him loose. Ryan Davis & Lorenzo Alexander wouldn't play for many other NFL teams. The Coaches & Management knew this. The FANS realized it to. For some crazy reason we got off to a wonderful start in the season. One reason was turn-overs. They came our way in bunches. Any long time fan knows that all evens out. Tyrod was shaky last year. He looked better with all those turn-overs by the defense this year. We all hoped for a miracle season but real NFL football caught up with us! It's time for a QB change and an offensive strategy re-start. Get the receivers involved and hopefully our most talented player in the backfield will excel. GO BILLS! There is no doubt a huge rebuild is well underway, and there is going to be a lot more change coming around the bend. They have actually done much of the work in a more seamless, clandestine sort of way compared to the Sabres approach of the last few years. But a massive rebuild it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 It was a stealth tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) We win 3 or better 4 we are likely in the playoffs...I actually think 8-8 in the afc this season just might do it......no tank job.....I think the focus of this team is still to get a WC spot.......If we're tanking than why did we acquire the WR"s...why didnt we get rid of Mccoy? could of easily got something fairly decent in return..... Edited November 18, 2017 by JPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: we don't. I have done a study no one here likes the rough ride coming. But better to brace for it. Upside is watching rookies develop. as a Fan i dig that facet. (stay sane, that is). I stand corrected. Too insanely, ridiculously connected to this team to have any self-awareness. I think you may have given me the nudge I've been needing for the last 17 years. I'll probably go see the Murder on the Orient Express matinee tomorrow afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 6 hours ago, klos63 said: This may be semantics, but they are not tanking- they are doing a total rebuild. The effort was to win now, but the personnel moves were for the future. Next year could be a pretty difficult year. Expect a lot more turnover and many rookies starting. I would agree. My question is more rhetorical in nature. They clearly dont see tyrod as the answer to the offense they want to run. They think Peterman could be so this is really a seven game audition which if successful significantly alters our draft strategy. If Peterman looks the part you can stand pat in the draft, fill multiple needs, and use one pick on another qb somewhere in the 2nd to 5th round rather than trading multiple picks to move up. I disagree with the op. Its not a tank. Its a continuing evaluation of what pieces we have and dont have. And Im totally ok with that. New Orleans showed just how far of a gap there is between us and the top three or four teams in the league. Them, the Pats, the Eagles. If anyone can come up with a fourth or fifth team feel free. Not many elite teams this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 The Kelvin Benjamin trade does fit in with the tank pattern. I believe Terry and Kim want to win now if winning now is possible. Benching TT however all but declares the season dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 19 hours ago, row_33 said: A new regime will take three years to get things in line with the coaching system, if they are fortunate. I do not understand how fans think you can hopscotch on the wings of angels to a credible playoff team in 6 weeks, especially when you are stuck with the Pats for two losses each season and a wildcard as the only playoff hope. Three years?......If they are fortunate? Eagles coaches......in second year.......are the #1 seed in the NFC. Rams coaches........in first year.......are #2 seed in NFC. Truth is it's not abnormal at all for first year regimes to be winning.........how 'bout Marrone's Jags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punt75 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 The TANK is so obvious now after a very crazy 5-2 start! The DEFENSE only has 4 NFL quality players with the rest low-rent veterans looking for a job. They work hard & try hard but - are a step slow and all a year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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