boyst Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 And states are making sure those towns don't get a cut of mj tax revenue. We'll see how long they will resist.a tax hungry city or county will inevitably sue the state. And a tax hungry federal government will sue a state soon, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Thanks Cheech Your welcome man! Anytime I can answer your marijuana crop growing questions, glad to help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Great move for Constellation Brands. Not only do they get into a product that may soon be legal in Canada but they can also get in on the CBD/Hemp oil business which is legal in all 50 states. The hemp oil that I use is made in Canada. Edited November 2, 2017 by frostbitmic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 And there it is!!!! http://www.whec.com/politics/sticker-shock-coming-with-californias-new-pot-market/4659035/?cat=565 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 There still be a strong under ground black market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 $35 to buy a small bag of good quality medical marijuana in Los Angeles, enough to roll five or six joints. Jesus where do I sign up!?!?!?! Even $50 or $60 for that much is a bargain!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: $35 to buy a small bag of good quality medical marijuana in Los Angeles, enough to roll five or six joints. Jesus where do I sign up!?!?!?! Even $50 or $60 for that much is a bargain!!! Well it's all relative. How big to you roll em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 One hitter is all I use when I use. No waste that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Well it's all relative. How big to you roll em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 1:26 PM, Boyst62 said: it will be interesting if all 50 can get it legalized before the federal government does. The battle ensuing that event would be epically funny. Some towns and cities are battling states already IF it happens, it will be interesting. But the chances of that happening are extremely slim, IMO. Typically these things get rolling at the state level, become the overwhelming consensus of the country, as a whole, and the Federal law changes before all 50 states. At least that's my recollection. And I said "typically", not always. 9 hours ago, Gary M said: And there it is!!!! http://www.whec.com/politics/sticker-shock-coming-with-californias-new-pot-market/4659035/?cat=565 Honestly I have no issue with that. If that's what it takes to get the ridiculous prohibition repealed, then so be it. Even at the "sticker shock" prices, it's quite reasonable to get quality/safe product, without having to deal with a drug dealer and engaging in criminal activity. The mention of a huge black market, even after it's legal, makes me chuckle a bit. Is there a huge black market for alcohol or tobacco, now? I know there is some black market for these things-- I'm Sicilian (hell, there's a black market for just about everything), but I can't see how this doesn't put a huge hit into the current illegal drug market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 hours ago, The Dean said: Is there a huge black market for alcohol or tobacco, now? I Tobacco - I'd say yes. State Taxes are HUGE. Virginia - Carton = $53 Rochester - Carton = $100+ Double your money easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Tobacco - I'd say yes. State Taxes are HUGE. Virginia - Carton = $53 Rochester - Carton = $100+ Double your money easily. Don't forget Indian Res cigs. There definately is a black market, but I think it's relatively minor as a percentage of total cigarette sales. I'd expect something like that with pot, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 9 hours ago, The Dean said: IF it happens, it will be interesting. But the chances of that happening are extremely slim, IMO. Typically these things get rolling at the state level, become the overwhelming consensus of the country, as a whole, and the Federal law changes before all 50 states. At least that's my recollection. And I said "typically", not always. Honestly I have no issue with that. If that's what it takes to get the ridiculous prohibition repealed, then so be it. Even at the "sticker shock" prices, it's quite reasonable to get quality/safe product, without having to deal with a drug dealer and engaging in criminal activity. The mention of a huge black market, even after it's legal, makes me chuckle a bit. Is there a huge black market for alcohol or tobacco, now? I know there is some black market for these things-- I'm Sicilian (hell, there's a black market for just about everything), but I can't see how this doesn't put a huge hit into the current illegal drug market. Excessive prices are not going to be a problem in a legal environment, quite the opposite. Legalization is going to result in massive increases in supply as big money interests get involved, it is already happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, The Dean said: Don't forget Indian Res cigs. There definately is a black market, but I think it's relatively minor as a percentage of total cigarette sales. I'd expect something like that with pot, too. Its been a while but aren't Indian Res cigs off brands? aka low grade? Cheap is cheap though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 16 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: One hitter is all I use when I use. No waste that way. In that case $40 will last a long time. An 1/8th is $40-50 and that will increase dramatically when the state gets their grubby hands on it when it becomes officially legal recreationally Jan 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 1:40 PM, Fan in San Diego said: Good luck with that. Mold and bugs would destroy the crop, it has to be grow indoors and climate controlled to get best results. What about Maui Wowy? **** has been great since the 60's 16 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: One hitter is all I use when I use. No waste that way. crushed ice bong hit is the best bang for the buck. That will set you straight first thing in the am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Pete said: crushed ice bong hit is the best bang for the buck. That will set you straight first thing in the am with a splash of peppermint schnapps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 4 hours ago, The Dean said: Don't forget Indian Res cigs. There definately is a black market, but I think it's relatively minor as a percentage of total cigarette sales. I'd expect something like that with pot, too. i'd assume so too. it would likely be someone who is good at growing, that provides pot to a smaller group for a decent price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 12 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Its been a while but aren't Indian Res cigs off brands? aka low grade? Cheap is cheap though I'm not a cig smokers. But many have told me the Smokin Joe's were as good as, or better than, American Spirits. Supposedly the Joe's cigs were 100% tobacco, and all that. I used to pick up cartons when I went back to WNY for friends, and everyone was very excited to get them. Maybe just because they were cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 9 hours ago, The Dean said: I'm not a cig smokers. But many have told me the Smokin Joe's were as good as, or better than, American Spirits. Supposedly the Joe's cigs were 100% tobacco, and all that. I used to pick up cartons when I went back to WNY for friends, and everyone was very excited to get them. Maybe just because they were cheap. As the saying goes .... Beggars can't be choosers We usually bring up 2 cartons when we visit family in Rochester. One for us and I give the other to the family we stay with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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