CanadianFan Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Absolutely. Agree on Garret being the top pick by them. It's hogwash. But.... All this Trubinsky talk from them makes me think they are trying to 1) they are jacking up Trubinsky's value, motivating SOMEONE ELSE to make a move on Trubinsky early, so that 2) Trubinsky is THE smokescreen and they are targeting another QB with 12 or later - Watson? (insert another name)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Absolutely. Agree on Garret being the top pick by them. It's hogwash. But.... All this Trubinsky talk from them makes me think they are trying to 1) they are jacking up Trubinsky's value, motivating SOMEONE ELSE to make a move on Trubinsky early, so that 2) Trubinsky is THE smokescreen and they are targeting another QB with 12 or later - Watson? (insert another name)? Browns don't smokescreen... Manziel texted them and they drafted him. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/johnnys_manziels_hurry_up_and.html Edited April 21, 2017 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) I don't think he's big enough as a DE in the NFL Am I missing something where 6'4", 272 isn't big enough to play 43 DE/ 34 OLB? He's not going to be drafted as a 34 DE. If you want to poke holes in Garretts game, go right ahead, but if he failed in the league, it wouldn't be because of his size or strength. Edited April 21, 2017 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Browns don't smokescreen... Manziel texted them and they drafted him. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/johnnys_manziels_hurry_up_and.html "Let's wreck this league!" Classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Ya know, I applaud you, I was waiting for someone else to come out with this, as I, and now apparently YOU seem to be in the vast minority. I don't think he's big enough as a DE in the NFL, and I never saw the motor that all these experts claim to have seen? He COULD well end up being another Miller (Very doubtful) but he could also be another Dion Jordan type guy that benefited from great defensive schemes. When I looked at the tape, and I did a lot, his sacks were roughly 70% coverage sacks, which in and of itself isn't a bad thing, but does it translate well to the NFL when you only have at best, 3 seconds to get to the QB? I don't think so, and I think he struggles in his rookie year. If I were the Browns I'd trade back, Tim- I just watch his 40 yard dash... he has very funny posture and it doesn't look natural. I have never seen quick feet, his feet look very heavy. I would say for him to be successful he needs a great Bullrush and Club move cause I don't see him beating anyone with his "explosiveness" off the ball, cause I don't see it. I think Thomas looks more explosive. But let's wait and see. He just looks clunky to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I don't see him beating anyone with his "explosiveness" off the ball, cause I don't see it. I have to chuckle, because nearly every scouting report talks about his "elite" and "rare" explosiveness off the ball in the first sentence. Clearly that is showing up on tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 They need to move the draft up by at least 2-3 weeks. People getting silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 You have no idea how many fans wish that the Bills were in the same positions as the Browns are in right now. You're right. I have no idea....I don't wish that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Why brother with the smokescreen when you have the 1st pick? They should draft Garrett (and I think that they will). I'm thinking that they may trade back up to 5 (using picks 12 and 52) to get him. They could be trying to see if a team wants to make an offer for the 1st overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) They could be trying to see if a team wants to make an offer for the 1st overall pick. IF true...why? For the love of all things holy.... why? Just take the player for once! They've been compiling picks for like 20 years. Just take the freaking blue chip sitting in front of you for once. #analytics Edited April 21, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 according to Schefter the pats are not trading Jimmy under any circumstances. They ask him every week on his radio spot here because Browns really wanted him and he said on a stack of bibles that his pats source is accurate and they will not be trading him. Makes me think Brady is close to hanging it up no matter how many avocados and kale salads he eats every day. ...you never know what Belichick is thinking.....Jimmy G could be the Pats' Aaron Rodgers.....pay 'em, to patiently wait.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I have to chuckle, because nearly every scouting report talks about his "elite" and "rare" explosiveness off the ball in the first sentence. Clearly that is showing up on tape. We will see.... Bosa had what? 10 sacks in less than a full season? I would put the over/under for Garrett at 7. I will bet Shaq has more sacks next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Hahaha what makes you think that? More likely they will be the Browns and bust on every pick. The amount of picks that they have over the next two years Edited April 27, 2017 by Dablitzkrieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 We will see.... Bosa had what? 10 sacks in less than a full season? I would put the over/under for Garrett at 7. I will bet Shaq has more sacks next year. I'd love to see Shaq put 8-12 up, but that's banking on potential, and frankly, Garrett has way more than he ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) The amount of pics that they have over the next two yearsYea, happens all the time in the NFL. Browns have had so many 2 first round picks and always fail. Edited April 22, 2017 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 IF true...why? For the love of all things holy.... why? Just take the player for once! They've been compiling picks for like 20 years. Just take the freaking blue chip sitting in front of you for once. #analytics No I get it and agree - but what else is there to do but see if someone offers you something crazy who may want a QB? I'm not advocating because at some point you have to start building but it appears they're awfully attracted to getting more and more picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19247982 Unreal........ The Browns are about completely f**k their next three or four years and make a mistake they hear about for a decade in passing over Garrett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Absolutely. Agree on Garret being the top pick by them. It's hogwash. But.... All this Trubinsky talk from them makes me think they are trying to 1) they are jacking up Trubinsky's value, motivating SOMEONE ELSE to make a move on Trubinsky early, so that 2) Trubinsky is THE smokescreen and they are targeting another QB with 12 or later - Watson? (insert another name)? ....saw a mock today where Davis Webb is their target at 33 as a fall back plan if Mitch doesn't fall to 12................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Sounds like Haslam might get his way at #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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