HappyDays Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Amen happy. Not sure everyone in the camp agrees though. Too many still on the defense and wr's fault kick. Qb at 10 should light a fire under his arse. Fight or flight time. Show me the money.] I'm on the record saying I like Mahomes. If the Bills take him at 10 I will not complain, but I also don't want them throwing away the pick on any QB and make a 2013-sized mistake. My position really is not that unreasonable or worthy of your constant childish mocking. I think having more QBs in competition is better than less, and I have no issues at all devoting cap space to the most important position in all of sports if I think there is upside. I guess you don't think Tyrod has any upside but I very much disagree with that. IF he can get to around 2015 efficiency with moderately higher attempts, you can win a Super Bowl with that. The Broncos won it with worse, the Seahawks won it with about the same as what I'm saying, the Ravens won it because their average at best QB lit it up for one playoff run. So I think it makes sense to bring Tyrod back and bet on his upside, while also drafting another QB, to go in with as many options at the position as possible. Because YOUR way would leave us with 1 QB in our entire depth chart. We would have to pick up a random veteran starter (Orton, Fitzpatrick, I'm falling asleep here), and bet on a rookie. Why not bet on both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 it blows my mind that none of you guys are comprehending what he is saying no matter how many times he says it. let me try. tyrod is not a hofer. IF (stay with me) he did what he did in 2015 over the course of his career he would it would be hof worthy. IF. Again you guys have built this wonderful strawman of cot but ignore that many of us that support tyrod do so because of any of the following. 1. he is our best option at the moment for NEXT season. 2. in some people's opinion none of the qbs in this year's draft are going to be the answer. 3. they believe tyrod isn't done improving. in this very thread FireChan talks about no substitute for game experience. 4. they want to see if the Miami and Seattle games can be built on and his consistency can be improved. 5. he plays for the bills so we root for him. I have yet to see a poster say he is definitively the answer. so let's put this asinine cot business to rest. the only hardliners people in these threads are anti TT people. take a page from gunner bill. spoke his piece, has proven to be knowledgeable, and let's it rest. we know where everyone stands at this point. BAM! This ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 BAM! This ^ If Ted Ginn caught a bomb every game he would be a HOF. IF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Yeah, section122 killed it yesterday. That's the "camp" I'm in but just couldn't explain it as well. Smh...CoT I feel like Ice-T, "what's with these people, read the sign". Edited March 29, 2017 by r00tabaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 If Ted Ginn caught a bomb every game he would be a HOF. IF If Carpenter could kick Xp's he might have a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Wow indeed. Give me Taylor > Rogers he's too reckless and Tyrod is Hof bound. Lol. You got it bad for #5. Love the emotions. Hopefully he will make you proud one day. Dude, you're either being intentionally obtuse because you're having fun (I think that's called Trolling) or you're just actually dense. Which is it? You listed a bunch of QBs who threw more INTs than Taylor as though someone on here is arguing that if a QB doesn't throw a lot of Interceptions, he's automatically good. No one is saying that. No one. You've set up the best example of a Straw Man fallacy here. No one is saying what you're arguing against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I'm on the record saying I like Mahomes. If the Bills take him at 10 I will not complain, but I also don't want them throwing away the pick on any QB and make a 2013-sized mistake. My position really is not that unreasonable or worthy of your constant childish mocking. I think having more QBs in competition is better than less, and I have no issues at all devoting cap space to the most important position in all of sports if I think there is upside. I guess you don't think Tyrod has any upside but I very much disagree with that. IF he can get to around 2015 efficiency with moderately higher attempts, you can win a Super Bowl with that. The Broncos won it with worse, the Seahawks won it with about the same as what I'm saying, the Ravens won it because their average at best QB lit it up for one playoff run. So I think it makes sense to bring Tyrod back and bet on his upside, while also drafting another QB, to go in with as many options at the position as possible. Because YOUR way would leave us with 1 QB in our entire depth chart. We would have to pick up a random veteran starter (Orton, Fitzpatrick, I'm falling asleep here), and bet on a rookie. Why not bet on both? If the Bills use Tyrod as a bridge and go get their QB of the future many of us will breathe a sigh of relief. If instead they try to build around Tyrod and ignore the QB position another couple years the anger will reach new heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) My god look in the mirror skip! You were the one fabricating and manipulating Tyrods 2015 stats into what you said were "HOF" worthy numbers. Who's the hypocrite! This message board definitely has BBMB qualities as it sucks out the trolls who, like parasites, latch on to fragments of a post and neglect the entirety of what's said. Whatever. What a bore.... Edited March 29, 2017 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Wait... So you're telling me that QBs are actually great because they throw interceptions? Holy smokes dude. I can already tell you're gonna be a fun one. Dude, you're either being intentionally obtuse because you're having fun (I think that's called Trolling) or you're just actually dense. Which is it? You listed a bunch of QBs who threw more INTs than Taylor as though someone on here is arguing that if a QB doesn't throw a lot of Interceptions, he's automatically good. No one is saying that. No one. You've set up the best example of a Straw Man fallacy here. No one is saying what you're arguing against. Wait... So you're telling me that QBs are actually great because they throw interceptions? Lol My god look in the mirror skip! You were the one fabricating and manipulating Tyrods 2015 stats into what you said were "HOF" worthy numbers. Who's the hypocrite! Ouch. Edited March 29, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 If the Bills use Tyrod as a bridge and go get their QB of the future many of us will breathe a sigh of relief. If instead they try to build around Tyrod and ignore the QB position another couple years the anger will reach new heights. Excellent post, dead on man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 This message board definitely has BBMB qualities as it sucks out the trolls who, like parasites, latch on to fragments of a post and neglect the entirety of what's said. Whatever. What a bore.... Everyone should be a better fan like you. Anyone who doesn't agree that Tyrod is good is a troll. I hope you unseat JFH as the board Homer. Lot of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 This message board definitely has BBMB qualities as it sucks out the trolls who, like parasites, latch on to fragments of a post and neglect the entirety of what's said. Whatever. What a bore.... please don't be like that. It makes you one of them. we all have a voice. Some of us have a flexible opinion. Some of are here to amuse themselves. even those, find a point once and again. But when even you begin to dismiss some opinions, you diminish yourself. We have idiots. I might be one of them? But so might you. GO BILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 please don't be like that. It makes you one of them. we all have a voice. Some of us have a flexible opinion. Some of are here to amuse themselves. even those, find a point once and again. But when even you begin to dismiss some opinions, you diminish yourself. We have idiots. I might be one of them? But so might you. GO BILLS Words to live by, 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 you'll have to wait until september ya crybaby 4/28 playa. Let the dream begin ! I was able to get behind Levi Browns big arm for god sakes. Hah ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Excellent post, dead on man have to keep moving forward. But please do not piss away what you have either Words to live by, 3rd Some new folks do not know, how to< just roll Edited March 29, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 have to keep moving forward. But please do not piss away what you have either Some new folks do not know, how to just roll We're going to cheer Tyrod when the games start. But we expect an active and aggressive front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Holy smokes dude. I can already tell you're gonna be a fun one. Lol Ouch. I don't know what you're "ouch"ing. Interceptions (or I should say, the lack of interceptions... really turnovers in general) is an incredibly important part of playing QB. So is completion %. So is TDs, passing or rushing. So is yards, passing or rushing. So is YPA, or YPC. So is 3rd down % on passing plays. So is... You get my point. There are tons of facets of a QB's game that matter and not a single poster ever said that one was the only one that mattered, and that's the way some of you are talking. And it's very troll-like. And it's very sad. I don't know why you quoted those posts and said this is going to be fun. I don't know what you think that actually says. You don't actually believe those posts by me are saying that INTs are the only QB stat that matter, do you? I hope not. If you do, seek help. Immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Excellent post, dead on man They drafted Cardale last year for the future. Better chance of finding a stud quarterback next year so using our 6 picks THIS year to fix holes is actually smart, no? I do kinda like Watson, Mahomes, Kelly, Biscuit and others but NONE are a sure thing. We are all Bills fans, hopefully Tyrod gets it done & we groom Cardale fully. <crossesfingers> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 They drafted Cardale last year for the future. Better chance of finding a stud quarterback next year so using our 6 picks THIS year to fix holes is actually smart, no? I do kinda like Watson, Mahomes, Kelly, Biscuit and others but NONE are a sure thing. We are all Bills fans, hopefully Tyrod gets it done & we groom Cardale fully. <crossesfingers> If we draft to fix holes we will be circling the drain soon. We need a plan that sees farther ahead than 1 year. Cardale is a nice lottery ticket. We will see how that is going soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 We're going to cheer Tyrod when the games start. But we expect an active and aggressive front office. I kinda would rather tactical than aggressive. But i get your point Jeff for sure. I am likely in the minority her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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