UCLA Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Cause he actively follows this board and is waiting to take advice from a random fan. QB: Are people on drugs not wanting Tyrod back? Thru 15 games we were 7th in points scored. When is the last time we finished top 7 in points the last 20 years? I'll be waiting for an answer from the Tyrod haters. Please spare me with the passing stats. If you don't want to include his rushing stats in the overall qb performance you are analyzing the data incorrectly. Again, the single most important metric for judging a qb is points scored. If the argument goes well everything around Tyrod is top notch (ol, rb, wr, te) and an average replacement will do the same then week 17 should give you pause. I have to believe the Bills brass knows what they are doing and would under no circumstances let him go. The only possible replacement that would come close to his production would be Romo and he is one hit away from IR. Just keep the kid here and everything will be ok. I'm done if they don't pick up his option. Coach: I don't have a problem with any of the guys they are interviewing. Again, we have an offense that is successful. Keep Lynn and Tyrod and you know you have a top 10 offense next year. I hope the lesson was learned with Schwartz. Hopefully Lynn can bring in a coordinator that can improve the d. Gus Bradley's jags d didn't look like anything special. The one guy I think deserves an interview is Mike McCoy. That is a good football coach who will be successful the next time he gets a HC opportunity. It was a well coached team in San Diego and he really got Rivers going after a couple average years. Not saying he should get the gig over Lynn but at least an interview. Lynn should be the choice. He's everything Ryan was not. Draft: The Adams kid from LSU looks like a player. Would be a good pick if he's available at 10. But In the new NFL where passing is king the two edge rushers on defense become paramount. You need two very special athletes on either side to really make a difference defense. We have one in Hughes but we need one on the other side. I don't think Lawson is that guy. The kid from Alabama Tim Williams looks like one of those guys. We will get a better picture of what type of athlete he is at the combine but def someone to look at for pick 10. Seattle's blueprint looks like the best for defense in the new NFL right now. Lots of zone, rush 4 play 7 in coverage. If hide two edge rushers don't create havoc you are dead. The reason it hasn't worked for the other teams that have copied them is they haven't drafted those special athletes on the edges. You look at Denver and Seattle and those edge rushers are so quick and force the qb's to get rid of the ball right away. I think Williams is one of those guys. The only other guy I really like is OJ Howard. Think they can trade down and still get him around 20. The Patriots a couple years ago realized how important a big explosive Te can be. They don't look for one, they look for two. It just creates so many mismatches and it helps with disguise on offense First they went Hernandez and Gronk and now with Bennett. So 1.Adams 2.Williams 3. Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You want to get Whaley's attention? Post this somewhere on Pornhub- he's sure to find it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You want to get Whaley's attention? Post this somewhere on Pornhub- he's sure to find it there. Same could be said for you, Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You want to get Whaley's attention? Post this somewhere on Pornhub- he's sure to find it there. WTF? Why do people post such stupid **** all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 WTF? Why do people post such stupid **** all the time. When Whaley was the Pro Personnel Director for the Steelers, he was sending porn email links to people in the building. Some of those porn emails ended up being sent to Commisioner Roger Goodell! My comment, although, facetious, was based on actual Whaley machinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 When Whaley was the Pro Personnel Director for the Steelers, he was sending porn email links to people in the building. Some of those porn emails ended up being sent to Commisioner Roger Goodell! My comment, although, facetious, was based on actual Whaley machinations. Link to prove this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You want to get Whaley's attention? Post this somewhere on Pornhub- he's sure to find it there. . . . or have Jason LaCanfora pass it along to him in one of their conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Link to prove this? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=doug+whaley+porn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Link to prove this? http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2007/05/22/Blogger-says-Steelers-Zierlein-inadvertently-forwarded-porn-to-NFL-officials/stories/200705220173 Also looked it up- there's mention of it on Whaley's wikipedia page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Link to prove this? google.com http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/03/whaley-moves-into-bills-assistant-gm-role/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=doug+whaley+porn thanks, that was one story I hadn't heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOICE-OF-SANITY Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 So you say 'Passing is King' yet you still think Tyrod is the answer at QB? Believe me, he definitely has shown some good stuff and i like Tyrod, but consistancy was always an issue and I have seen so many missed opportunities in the passing game that could have been the difference in countless games this past season. I know Cardale is young and inexperienced but he already has a better arm, he's taller, and a lot tougher to bring down when he's running. Not saying he should be starter next year, but don't pay tyrod 20 mill to start over with a new coach and system when Cardale could give you a similar look (with a much higher ceiling) next year if he has the proper coaching and preparation. I hope what happens is that we get an experienced pure passer to compete with Cardale for the job. If the experienced passer wins then I hope he is accurate enough to get the ball to our receivers and skill players a lot more decisively than Tyrod did and let them make the big plays. That plus a much improved defense (an obvious must) and a smart, disciplined coach will get this team on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 thanks, that was one story I hadn't heard. No worries. Links are always good to back up salacious accusations, but I think the Whaley porn thing is common knowledge for a lot of people. It's usually the only thing I've found fans of other teams know about Doug Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I thought UCLA's mascot was the Bruin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) No worries. Links are always good to back up salacious accusations, but I think the Whaley porn thing is common knowledge for a lot of people. It's usually the only thing I've found fans of other teams know about Doug Whaley. The Doug Whaley/porn story is a cautionary tale. I have two sons. I keep telling them that when I was young and stupid, I could afford to be young and stupid. There are no photographs of me being young and stupid. Technology is both a blessing and a curse. Blessing: The world is at our fingertips. Curse: The world is at our fingertips. One can send or receive the "wrong" text, email, or photo, and your life can change forever. Edited January 10, 2017 by Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 So you say 'Passing is King' yet you still think Tyrod is the answer at QB? Believe me, he definitely has shown some good stuff and i like Tyrod, but consistancy was always an issue and I have seen so many missed opportunities in the passing game that could have been the difference in countless games this past season. I know Cardale is young and inexperienced but he already has a better arm, he's taller, and a lot tougher to bring down when he's running. Not saying he should be starter next year, but don't pay tyrod 20 mill to start over with a new coach and system when Cardale could give you a similar look (with a much higher ceiling) next year if he has the proper coaching and preparation. I hope what happens is that we get an experienced pure passer to compete with Cardale for the job. If the experienced passer wins then I hope he is accurate enough to get the ball to our receivers and skill players a lot more decisively than Tyrod did and let them make the big plays. That plus a much improved defense (an obvious must) and a smart, disciplined coach will get this team on the right track. Sure there are better passers that Taylor. The question is if you get rid of him, will the next guy be better? That's not a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Sure there are better passers that Taylor. The question is if you get rid of him, will the next guy be better? That's not a given. Yes, your girlfriend is a controlling shrew you can't stand, but if you get rid of her, will your next girlfriend be better? Better stay with her forever, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOICE-OF-SANITY Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Sure there are better passers that Taylor. The question is if you get rid of him, will the next guy be better? That's not a given. It's definitely a tough call but if you pay the full contract then you'll never find out because they won't have enough money to bring someone else in, so you'd have to draft another quarterback who more than likely won't be ready right away and you would probably have a harder time bringin in other free agents to fill the other holes we have. That's why I still think Cardale would be almost as good as starting Tyrod next year - but without the huge cap hit. Romo isn't coming to Buffalo, I just don't see it happening. I hate to say it but if your talking old guys, I think you'll see a guy like Cutler here before Romo would be. I would love Kirk Cousins, I think if there was a chance to get a guy he would be the guy I would go for. With our run game and Sammy (would need another WR) I can see him being successful for a long time. Realistically, I don't think Redskins will let him go. SO i have a feeling that most likely Whaley will bring in a Hoyer, Keenum, Gabbert to hold down the fort 'till Cardale/Mid range QB 2017 draft pick is ready. Won't be popular but this is the most realistic thing I see happening. Edited January 10, 2017 by VOICE-OF-SANITY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 When Whaley was the Pro Personnel Director for the Steelers, he was sending porn email links to people in the building. Some of those porn emails ended up being sent to Commisioner Roger Goodell! My comment, although, facetious, was based on actual Whaley machinations. Oh alright. Sorry about that then. I didn't know there was a correlation. I thought it was weird jab lol. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'm thinking if you mail this to OBD, Mr Whaley will give it his full and immediate attention. When Whaley was the Pro Personnel Director for the Steelers, he was sending porn email links to people in the building. Some of those porn emails ended up being sent to Commisioner Roger Goodell! My comment, although, facetious, was based on actual Whaley machinations. You're making it sound like a wider spread thing than it was. He sent a porn email to an assistant coach, who inadvertantly forwarded it (including to Goodell, this is true). Neither Whaley nor the assistant coach were disciplined, but I'm sure they both got called on the carpet for a little fatherly explanation of why they should never, ever, ever do this again. Which, provided the behavior stopped, strikes me as a relatively sane reaction. I can only imagine the press furor if something like that happened in B'lo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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