Tiberius Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Looks like our air force is aging, falling behind and is in need help. Pretty good article--though not comprehensive. https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-us-air-force-is-headed-for-a-crash-too-many-old-planes-not-enough-cash?ref=home Quote Barring some radical shift in the cost of new technology, future administrations could face a difficult choice. Either boost Air Force budgets to Cold War levels or higher, or shrink the flying branch to an affordable size. “Growing the force is going to compete directly with modernizing the force,” Todd Harrison, an analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C., told Breaking Defense, a trade publication And it’s going to cost. The CBO projected that, if the Air Force replaced each old plane with a single new one possessing similar capabilities, the branch’s budget for new aircraft would have to rise from around $10 billion in 2018 to $15 billion in the mid- to late 2020s, and to $26 billion in 2033. All figures are in 2018 dollars. It’s a price worth paying, Deptula said. “The only thing more expensive than a first-rate Air Force is a second-rate Air Force.” Deptula pointed out that all major U.S. military operations depend on the Air Force controlling the sky. Without fighters providing top cover, cargo planes shuttling in supplies and surveillance aircraft keeping tabs on enemy forces, U.S. troops could find themselves out-gunned, underfed and blind, especially in high-intensity combat with a sophisticated enemy possessing its own powerful air force. “The Air Force has been significantly underfunded for over two decades,” Deptula added. “Unless this trend is reversed, the U.S. military can expect to suffer significant losses in the next major regional conflict, and risk loss altogether.” Tax cuts, health care or a modern military? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Looks like our air force is aging, falling behind and is in need help. Pretty good article--though not comprehensive. https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-us-air-force-is-headed-for-a-crash-too-many-old-planes-not-enough-cash?ref=home Tax cuts, health care or a modern military? That decline is the result of the past two administrations (purposely) neglecting the military (while waging multiple wars). Trump secured the largest military budgetary increase in decades to fix that neglect. That money is already allocated and secured, regardless of tax cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: That decline is the result of the past two administrations (purposely) neglecting the military (while waging multiple wars). Trump secured the largest military budgetary increase in decades to fix that neglect. That money is already allocated and secured, regardless of tax cuts. Three administrations, actually, and the Congresses that were with them. I just hope the money is spent wisely for modern, forward looking purposes. Taxes will have to go back up as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/daughters-late-podiatrist-claim-diagnosed-donald-trump-bone-spurs-vietnam-war-favor-134618527.html Well NOOOOO *****. I didn’t need proof to know that — it’s just obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, The_Dude said: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/daughters-late-podiatrist-claim-diagnosed-donald-trump-bone-spurs-vietnam-war-favor-134618527.html Well NOOOOO *****. I didn’t need proof to know that — it’s just obvious. This is from the original NYT article about this that I've already posted in the Trump/Media thread: "The Times did not find documentation to help corroborate the family's account, who described themselves as Democrats who dislike Trump, and Elysa Braunstein was unsure whether her father ever examined Donald Trump." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: This is from the original NYT article about this that I've already posted in the Trump/Media thread: "The Times did not find documentation to help corroborate the family's account, who described themselves as Democrats who dislike Trump, and Elysa Braunstein was unsure whether her father ever examined Donald Trump." The man was an athlete in high school. COME ON........all of a sudden he cant do man things? Did you Trump people know that? The Don was a gifted baseball player. "Bone spurs" has always been a privilege of the American wealthy during times of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Everyone knew. No one cared. They still don't. Why don't they care? Because in 2 years 45 has done more for the military than the previous three administrations combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, The_Dude said: The man was an athlete in high school. COME ON........all of a sudden he cant do man things? Did you Trump people know that? The Don was a gifted baseball player. "Bone spurs" has always been a privilege of the American wealthy during times of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Go East, orange man. Air Force One in Europe Holiday rah-rah session for troop morale? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Hedge said: Go East, orange man. Air Force One in Europe Holiday rah-rah session for troop morale? Holy *****, Trump hasn’t tweeted in 17 hours? Something must be seriously wrong with him. I hope he’s ok! Edited December 26, 2018 by BigMcD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: And that's whats sad about you. You don't care if the current Commander in Chief is a draft dodger. You don't care if the man in charge of troops is a draft dodger. I know. I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, The_Dude said: And that's whats sad about you. You don't care if the current Commander in Chief is a draft dodger. You don't care if the man in charge of troops is a draft dodger. I know. I get it. No. Obviously you do not. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Thread on Syria/ ME. https://mobile.twitter.com/CatesDuane/status/1077978625624997888 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: No. Obviously you do not. . No, I do. Trumpers do not care about honor and integrity. I understand. They don't care if they put a man in charge of soldiers who wouldn't share a foxhole with them. I completely understand. I don't respect it, but I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, The_Dude said: No, I do. Trumpers do not care about honor and integrity. I understand. They don't care if they put a man in charge of soldiers who wouldn't share a foxhole with them. I completely understand. I don't respect it, but I get it. As a military man, would you rather a former service member who talks bad about the military, does not fund them properly, and puts them unnecessarily in harms way... Or a draft dodger who lauds and supports the military with nearly every public statement, funds them more so than any recent administration, pulls them out of perma war, and gives them their first pay raise in a decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/presssec/status/1078007105339224064?s=21 Trump and FLOTUS in Iraq. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1078009407114493952 ??? https://mobile.twitter.com/alyssa_milano/status/1078004430836948993?s=21 https://mobile.twitter.com/Montel_Williams/status/1077685631533416449 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1078009407114493952 ??? https://mobile.twitter.com/alyssa_milano/status/1078004430836948993?s=21 https://mobile.twitter.com/Montel_Williams/status/1077685631533416449 Is motel Williams the one that had the single hit in the 90s or the TV Springer wanna be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1078009407114493952 https://mobile.twitter.com/alyssa_milano/status/1078004430836948993?s=21 https://mobile.twitter.com/Montel_Williams/status/1077685631533416449 The talking point seems to be "he was shamed into it". SMH They really are a buncha sheep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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