MAJBobby Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Yeah, it really is. He who lives in a glass house shouldn't cast stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 OK. Then ask a Mexican or a Hawaiian. This statement demonstrates a good deal of ignorance. And while in those shadows get exploited don't get a lot of protections etc etc if anything they are risking a lot doing that as well. And if Amnesty happens through congress that makes their path to citizenship legal. I get it is it circumventing something yes it is. But everyone circumvents a law or laws risking getting caught all over America. So really what is the difference. Again why not one immigration Law or Policy? Either way done talking about it because ventures into politics forum too much. So again Congrats to Cyrus to bad his ceremony wasn't a couple weeks ago so he could have voted for 1st President he will be a citizen with. Now has to wait 4 years. We don't have one single immigration policy because not all immigrants are equally beneficial to the country, and a nations laws in regards to borders and immigration should be designed for the sole purpose of benefiting that nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 This statement demonstrates a good deal of ignorance. We don't have one single immigration policy because not all immigrants are equally beneficial to the country, and a nations laws in regards to borders and immigration should be designed for the sole purpose of benefiting that nation. So explain Cuba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) So explain Cuba? Our Cuban immigration policy has much to geopolitics. edit: your position that all paths to citizenship are legitimate because "everyone breaks the law from time to time" is an absolute non-starter as it runs against the entire purpose of a nation-state. Edited November 17, 2016 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Our Cuban immigration policy has much to geopolitics. edit: your position that all paths to citizenship are legitimate because "everyone breaks the law from time to time" is an absolute non-starter as it runs against the entire purpose of a nation-state. No did I say that. I clarified and just said it is kind of hypocritical to talk down to a person because they break a law when you know everyone breaks a law as well. Not saying you or anyone here is saying it but I sure do see it a lot in America disrespecting a human because they are doing what they think is right for their family though it might break a law. Sorry end of the day they are Human Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 No did I say that. I clarified and just said it is kind of hypocritical to talk down to a person because they break a law when you know everyone breaks a law as well. Not saying you or anyone here is saying it but I sure do see it a lot in America disrespecting a human because they are doing what they think is right for their family though it might break a law. Sorry end of the day they are Human At the end of the day, yes they're human. But being human doesn't guarantee you the right to be in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Cyrus Kouandjio Takes Oath of Citizenship (1:57)Cameroon-born Bills OT Cyrus Kouandjio, who moved to the U.S. with his family when he was four years old, realized a personal dream when he was naturalized as a citizen of the U.S. He was one of 34 new citizens from 24 nations that were welcomed to the country during a ceremony at Buffalo’s U.S. District Courthouse in Niagara Square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Cyrus Kouandjio Takes Oath of Citizenship (1:57) Thanks 26 for staying on subject recognizing how great this was for Cyrus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Thanks 26 for staying on subject recognizing how great this was for Cyrus! Had to be quite the exciting day for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) No did I say that. I clarified and just said it is kind of hypocritical to talk down to a person because they break a law when you know everyone breaks a law as well. Not saying you or anyone here is saying it but I sure do see it a lot in America disrespecting a human because they are doing what they think is right for their family though it might break a law. Sorry end of the day they are Human Of course you don't blame the immigrants. They are doing something admirable for their families. I would do it myself if I lived in a Third World country bordering America. Edited November 18, 2016 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Of course you don't blame the immigrants. They are doing something admirable for their families. I would do it myself if I lived in a Third World country bordering America. Or blame those whose job is to kick them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Fantastic. Proud to count him amongst us, especially since he wasn't gifted this privilege by birth, but rather decided it was something he truly wanted, and worked to obtain it. Individuals who do this make us better as a nation. Excellent post So many people do it the "right way" whatever that means hop in and ruin a decent thread. you were the first negative post Agreed. It's always great to see people from other cultures assimilate into the great melting pot! well said Ok will take your word for it. I know I have used it now 3 times. I even had to send my wife home, because she would have overstayed her visa because our great government lost all her Green Card information and could not get it done in time. I am very qualified to talk of this subject from my point of view. Either way Congrats Cyrus Much better my Friend.^ and yea i always post this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 This statement demonstrates a good deal of ignorance. We don't have one single immigration policy because not all immigrants are equally beneficial to the country, and a nations laws in regards to borders and immigration should be designed for the sole purpose of benefiting that nation. thats wrong so wrong i cannot even begin to tell you how wrong it is. But i will if you ask me. Lets decide who gets to vote while we are at it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 The 'rigorous' couple of hours of 'vetting' at Ellis Island. More like a month or more in some cases--my grandfather's family spent a month there in quarantine. He had some great stories about the boat and experience --not eating bananas because they'd never seen them, thinking pumpkin pie was literally sh*t, catching lice from some old guys' beards and making his younger brother trade his nickel for my grandfather's dime (since the nickel was bigger, it must be worth more, right?) some nice American had given them each. Folks in my old predominantly Italian-American hometown also like to conviently forget that a lot of IA's also came here illegally--like my grandmother, who came in from Sicily across Lake Ontario in dead of night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 At the end of the day, yes they're human. But being human doesn't guarantee you the right to be in the US. everyone or no one. Pick and choose and you just trusted the government to create an ideal. This has another name. And NOT what the original American principles were meant to reap. These were discussed, argued , fought and died over and what we were founded upon. so much of the original intent has been lost. I mean wtf. the Pilgrims were desperate mofos looking for some solace. shtstrm of fate and consequences. Indians have the cure for malaria in James town and most die anyways . More come seeking "refuge" and then are helped only to turn on the saviours melting pot of of poop Go Cyrus. Proud of you! And Welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 gratz Cyrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 More like a month or more in some cases--my grandfather's family spent a month there in quarantine. He had some great stories about the boat and experience --not eating bananas because they'd never seen them, thinking pumpkin pie was literally sh*t, catching lice from some old guys' beards and making his younger brother trade his nickel for my grandfather's dime (since the nickel was bigger, it must be worth more, right?) some nice American had given them each. Folks in my old predominantly Italian-American hometown also like to conviently forget that a lot of IA's also came here illegally--like my grandmother, who came in from Sicily across Lake Ontario in dead of night. My Man Matt hs areal story. Heck heck. I gotta respect those that sacrifice everything to make it. Most did it for Family Only to find out the epic stories of endless gold and fountains of youth are not quite true. gratz Cyrus simple. eloquent. / thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 thats wrong so wrong i cannot even begin to tell you how wrong it is. But i will if you ask me. Lets decide who gets to vote while we are at it.... OK. So your priori is that all immigrants are equally valuable to the country they immigrate to. Explain your argument please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 OK. So your priori is that all immigrants are equally valuable to the country they immigrate to. Explain your argument please? once he does comoare that to many other countries policies on immigration. Canada is a helluva lot harder to get into than the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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