Big Gun Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 If your QB has to rely on his legs than you don't have a QB. Not in todays NFL you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Likely because that's not going to win in the NFL. The QB has to make plays from the pocket. If you don't, teams figure you out and you will get physically destroyed as a running QB. A la RG III. He had one great season, then teams took away his running and made him " be a quarterback" . We might be seeing the same thing with TT. It's up to him to prove he can be an NFL QB and beat you from the pocket, with the occasional run that will make D coordinators bang their head off a wall. On the flip side why not do what was working (last season) until opponents actually stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 It depends on if you can do both..... I believe he can do both....but think he might be getting told to stay in the pocket....which is the wrong thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 On the flip side why not do what was working (last season) until opponents actually stop them. I think that's what's happening. Teams had an offseason to figure out TT, and he hasn't looked ready for it. He's going to see more of what the Jets and Ravens did, taking away what he did well last season. He needs to use the middle of the field, and make throws from the pocket. The Bills also miss Karlos Williams contributions in a big way. He was the perfect complement to MCoys style and brought toughness to the Bills running attack that is sorely lacking right now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 You want Taylor to win like Tebow. In order to win with his legs he needs to be more like Cam Newton pass first run second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I think that's what's happening. Teams had an offseason to figure out TT, and he hasn't looked ready for it. He's going to see more of what the Jets and Ravens did, taking away what he did well last season. He needs to use the middle of the field, and make throws from the pocket. The Bills also miss Karlos Williams contributions in a big way. He was the perfect complement to MCoys style and brought toughness to the Bills running attack that is sorely lacking right now . Boat the thing is he HAS NOT done what worked well last year.... How many times have you seen him move out of the pocket and either take the option to either run or throw downfield.....I am seeing very little of that and I wonder if that is what got Roman fired One thing I noticed about Roman last year.....he likes to outsmart himself a lot.....he thinks he is one step ahead of the opposing DC when what he really should be doing is running something till the other team stops it. You want Taylor to win like Tebow. In order to win with his legs he needs to be more like Cam Newton pass first run second. No...I want him to play just like Cam Newton minus the big hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Not in todays NFL you don't. You ever heard of Cam Newton? He's pretty good. Really cocky but a heck of a mobile QB. Google him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Modern NFL. Let the kid run. Good things happen when the QB breaks contain. Yes he doesn't have the size of Newton but he is faster and usually slides to avoid contact. I disagree that he can't be effective without running. I think he just needs more time but until then he can win by running the ball. Why should his development be any different or held to a different standard than everyone's golden child, Russell Wilson??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 rodgers runs around cause his line is terrible. tt needs to mimic him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Modern NFL. Let the kid run. Good things happen when the QB breaks contain. Yes he doesn't have the size of Newton but he is faster and usually slides to avoid contact. I disagree that he can't be effective without running. I think he just needs more time but until then he can win by running the ball. Why should his development be any different or held to a different standard than everyone's golden child, Russell Wilson??? Let him run. I want to see throws with anticipation. I want to see using more than just the alleys Havent seen it. That is a flawed 6th year QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Boat the thing is he HAS NOT done what worked well last year.... How many times have you seen him move out of the pocket and either take the option to either run or throw downfield.....I am seeing very little of that and I wonder if that is what got Roman fired One thing I noticed about Roman last year.....he likes to outsmart himself a lot.....he thinks he is one step ahead of the opposing DC when what he really should be doing is running something till the other team stops it. No...I want him to play just like Cam Newton minus the big hits I'm thinking that's what teams are taking away so far. The Ravens D lineman saying their plan was to make TT " be a quarterback" was quite telling. He needs to beat what defenses are throwing at him now, and make them get out of it. I doubt teams are defending him the same way that they did last year if he did well against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Modern NFL. Let the kid run. Good things happen when the QB breaks contain. Yes he doesn't have the size of Newton but he is faster and usually slides to avoid contact. I disagree that he can't be effective without running. I think he just needs more time but until then he can win by running the ball. Why should his development be any different or held to a different standard than everyone's golden child, Russell Wilson??? Modern NFL. Let the kid run. Good things happen when the QB breaks contain. Yes he doesn't have the size of Newton but he is faster and usually slides to avoid contact. I disagree that he can't be effective without running. I think he just needs more time but until then he can win by running the ball. Why should his development be any different or held to a different standard than everyone's golden child, Russell Wilson??? I think they should design it for whatever Tyrod Taylors strengths are He has a great arm, is accurate (I know he has been a bit off this year).....can make plays with his feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Let him run. I want to see throws with anticipation. I want to see using more than just the alleys Havent seen it. That is a flawed 6th year QB I had to read that 4 times and I still don't really understand your broken English. Lets see if Lynn can get something more out of him, like Sammy screens or Clay skinny's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I'm thinking that's what teams are taking away so far. The Ravens D lineman saying their plan was to make TT " be a quarterback" was quite telling. He needs to beat what defenses are throwing at him now, and make them get out of it. I doubt teams are defending him the same way that they did last year if he did well against it. I dont see the bills forcing the issue....which I think they should.....and if they want to spy or are delaying a rush to see if he moves out of the pocket this should open up an opportunity for a screen play In other words....Roman was getting outcoached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I had to read that 4 times and I still don't really understand your broken English. Lets see if Lynn can get something more out of him, like Sammy screens or Clay skinny's. Ok barney style for you. Inside the numbers on the Football Field are ignored from Tyrod Taylor. He refuses to look there He doesnt throw with anticipation the reciever has to be wide open before he throws the ball. Alley = outside the numbers in football glad you were able to learn something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Ok barney style for you. Inside the numbers on the Football Field are ignored from Tyrod Taylor. He refuses to look there He doesnt throw with anticipation the reciever has to be wide open before he throws the ball. Alley = outside the numbers in football glad you were able to learn something Sentence structure....learn it You might need a job someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Sentence structure....learn it You might need a job someday. Football learn it you might want to talk intelligently sometime. Dont worry about my job i enjoy cashing my checks i get on payday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The book is out on him. Jets and Ravens were dead set on keeping him from breaking contain and covering routes between the hash and sideline. Unless they can counter this he is toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) For those that havent seen it or want to ignore this year saying they are anomalies just look at last years passing chart. Easy to play the run when you have a QB that ignores the middle of the field. Edited September 19, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I dont see the bills forcing the issue....which I think they should.....and if they want to spy or are delaying a rush to see if he moves out of the pocket this should open up an opportunity for a screen play In other words....Roman was getting outcoached That could be. We will find out if AL can outthink some opposing D coordinators. It's so frustrating seeing the Pats O and McDaniels always out coaching everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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