DrDawkinstein Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 And if you're drafting based on need like that, you're DOA. Use free agency to fill holes, not the draft. But isnt it so wonderful when Need meets BPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 And if you're drafting based on need like that, you're DOA. Use free agency to fill holes, not the draft. DOA? Hardly! When the highest rated player on your board meets a specific need you pull the trigger on the guy with zero hesitation. More coffee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The sad part of that equation is that the Bills only wanted the 'girls 2017 1st round pick. They should have asked for at least two or three picks for Jerruh to move back into round 1. Other teams get a king's ransom trading down, but we appear to take too little and give up too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) The sad part of that equation is that the Bills only wanted the 'girls 2017 1st round pick. They should have asked for at least two or three picks for Jerruh to move back into round 1. Other teams get a king's ransom trading down, but we appear to take too little and give up too much. WHAT?!? It takes a special kind of Bills fan to dig so hard to find fault with the Bills here. You are criticizing Whaley for not asking for enough in a reality where Dallas found the Bills demand too steep... And I think you're info is off. Bills wanted the 2017 1st, and 2016 2nd and 3rd. Edited May 2, 2016 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 The sad part of that equation is that the Bills only wanted the 'girls 2017 1st round pick. They should have asked for at least two or three picks for Jerruh to move back into round 1. Other teams get a king's ransom trading down, but we appear to take too little and give up too much. Huh? I'm sure the Bills also wanted Dallas' #34 pick that was the 3rd pick in the 2nd round. WHAT?!? It takes a special kind of Bills fan to dig so hard to find fault with the Bills here. You are criticizing Whaley for not asking for enough in a reality where Dallas found the Bills demand too steep... Just another TSW Manic Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Just another TSW Manic Monday? No doubt. I mean, its fun to play "what if" with the draft, especially in light of another team's regrets. But to criticize the Bills for what is probably their best draft (on paper) in years, is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 No doubt. I mean, its fun to play "what if" with the draft, especially in light of another team's regrets. But to criticize the Bills for what is probably their best draft (on paper) in years, is ridiculous. Seems to me that some people's preconceived biases get in the way of any fair assessment of the this draft in particular that has been almost universally lauded as on of the best in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Just another TSW Manic Monday? I wish it was (football) Sunday. Edited May 2, 2016 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 I wish it was (football) Sunday. Hear Hear Good Sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 And if you're drafting based on need like that, you're DOA. Use free agency to fill holes, not the draft. And you also have to consider the value of what people are offering. Dallas' offer to Buffalo was 85 points below the draft value chart = mid 4th round pick. Bills were smart not to take the crazy offer because the two additional players they would have have drafted this year wouldn't be as good as Shaq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 Here's how the Cowboys lost out on Paxton Lynch as their future QB By Will Brinson | CBS Sports NFL WriterThe Dallas Cowboys badly wanted Paxton Lynch as the heir to Tony Romo. But not so bad that Jerry Jones would give up more picks in a trade. And now he has to live with the regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Another thing Coach Tuesday is forgetting: moving out of the first entirely means you lose a guy you have 5th-year control over. That fifth year is why Stephon Gilmore is playing for the Bills next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 Another thing Coach Tuesday is forgetting: moving out of the first entirely means you lose a guy you have 5th-year control over. That fifth year is why Stephon Gilmore is playing for the Bills next season. Great point! Smart decision OBD! @YardsPerPass From @SI_PeterKing 's MMQB Bills said no to Cowboys offer to trade down for Dallas's 2nd and 3rd @ChrisTrapasso Chris Trapasso Retweeted YardsPerPass.com Good idea for #Bills to decline. Not nearly enough compensation to go from 19 to 34. Or any team in early 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Another thing Coach Tuesday is forgetting: moving out of the first entirely means you lose a guy you have 5th-year control over. That fifth year is why Stephon Gilmore is playing for the Bills next season. That is a good point. Still not the tipping point for me but I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Let me ask you this: would you rather have Lawson and Ragland, or Ragland, Jarron Reed, and an extra 3rd and 4th in this year's draft and an extra 4th in next year's draft? I think it's a legitimate point of debate... I'm not sure jarran Reed and his college career high of one sack makes the Bills much better. Lawson had 12.5 sacks last year and fared well against Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 @ESPN_NFLNation Like Johnny Manziel, Jerry Jones needs to let Paxton Lynch go https://t.co/RuSU3fbWZx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 @TheCowboysWire Lucked Up? Cowboys saved from themselves in 2016 NFL draft: https://t.co/2cCIiHQX10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Because Dallas was only offering its 2nd and 4th to those teams - they were insisting on a third (which is what Dallas had offered to Buffalo and the Jets), but Dallas refused. Now Jerry is saying he goofed. Know what I won't understand? If they would give us a 2 and 3 to get the kid, why would they draw a hard line not to offer that to the team at 24? You get the same player for the same time, but a cheaper contract! Edited May 2, 2016 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Know what I won't understand? If they would give us a 2 and 3 to get the kid, why would they draw a hard line not to offer that to the team at 24? You get the same player for the same time, but a cheaper contract! Excellent point! Who cares whether you get him at 26 or 19 as long as you get the guy!! And he comes cheaper at 26. That is a LogicFail on the Cowboys' part, who were perhaps blinded by the draft value point chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Excellent point! Who cares whether you get him at 26 or 19 as long as you get the guy!! And he comes cheaper at 26. That is a LogicFail on the Cowboys' part, who were perhaps blinded by the draft value point chart. getting lynch 5 picks later is definitely MORE valuable to the team, but they were only willing to give up less resources to do it.... either their logic was embarrassingly off for leaders at that level, or the story is. Edited May 2, 2016 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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