B-Man Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 SENATOR TOM COTTON AGAINST THE 1619 RIOTS: We Can Give No Quarter to Mob Rule. “When you tear down statues of Washington and Grant, it’s not about the Civil War—it’s because you hate America.” Related, from Richard Fernandez. If Trump wreaked the kind of devastation on the blue zones that they’re cheerfully inflicting on themselves, it would be some sort of war crime. Instead he’s just standing by, offering to help, but knowing his offers will be rejected. 117Po 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Not sure where to put this, but I guess this is as good a place as any. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Cop shoots black man in the back "I can't breathe" https://www.bitchute.com/video/dd8xZAtMVpPT/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, njbuff said: The should use acid instead of pepper spray. Then we will see how many "protesters" would be out there. Right on, Silvio. Let's through acid in the faces of people who exercise their First Amendment rights because they dare to criticize the douche bag who runs this country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Right on, Silvio. Let's through acid in the faces of people who exercise their First Amendment rights because they dare to criticize the douche bag who runs this country. Destroying public property isn't peaceful protesting. You know better than that AC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, westside2 said: Destroying public property isn't peaceful protesting. You know better than that AC. Destroying public property keeps lawyers in business. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Destroying public property keeps lawyers in business. Especially ambulance chasers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8449355/D-C-police-stop-protesters-setting-Black-House-Autonomous-Zone-outside-White-House.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8449703/Video-shows-homeless-man-set-FIRE-NYC-man-throws-lit-firework-him.html This is some great entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, westside2 said: Destroying public property isn't peaceful protesting. You know better than that AC. You're right. The destruction of public property isn't protesting. It's vandalism, and the people engaging in that conduct are vandals. So when your douchebag friends say things like "let's throw acid on the protestors," please correct them and say that in this country, much to the chagrin of our douchebag president, we don't use chemical weapons on people who exercise their First Amendment rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: You're right. The destruction of public property isn't protesting. It's vandalism, and the people engaging in that conduct are vandals. So when your douchebag friends say things like "let's throw acid on the protestors," please correct them and say that in this country, much to the chagrin of our douchebag president, we don't use chemical weapons on people who exercise their First Amendment rights. Fair enough. It may have been a bit extreme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 https://twitter.com/BernardKerik/status/1275276637333008385 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: You're right. The destruction of public property isn't protesting. It's vandalism, and the people engaging in that conduct are vandals. So when your douchebag friends say things like "let's throw acid on the protestors," please correct them and say that in this country, much to the chagrin of our douchebag president, we don't use chemical weapons on people who exercise their First Amendment rights. Why would it be the President’s job to police this sort of local crime? For people who constantly call him a fascist, you all sure seem to want him to be everywhere doing everything! After three plus years you STILL do not understand the guy. Amazing! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/BernardKerik/status/1275276637333008385 Add to the equation: Face to face interactions between LE Officers and people over the age 16 All people over 16: 50+ million (population 253+ million) White: 37+ million (population 164+ million) Black: 6+ million (population 31+ million) Total murders 2019: White: 6200+ (% killed by police: 7.55%) Black: 7400+ (% killed by police: 2.96%) Edited June 23, 2020 by billsfan1959 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Add to the equation: Face to face interactions between LE Officers and people over the age 16 All people over 16: 50+ million (population 253+ million) White: 37+ million (population 164+ million) Black: 6+ million (population 31+ million) Total murders 2019: White: 6200+ (% killed by police: 7.55%) Black: 7400+ (% killed by police: 2.96%) I was thinking about this and, while it is true that any interaction could end up with lethal force, I think it's worth limiting to violent crimes plus weapons charges - which appear to be separate. This analysis was done in an effort to concisely summarize my take on the current ongoing discussion. I think generally this graph shows the injustice being protested. It is derived by the percentage of lethal interactions divided by the percentage of US population. As you can see, black Americans are the only demographic over 1, and they're over 1.5. Almost double the rate of the others. If this was what you focused on I could certainly understand the concern. If you then look at the violent crime rate, a different picture is painted. Violent is strictly violent crimes (murder, manslaughter, rape, assault, robbery) while violent+ also includes weapons offenses. This was in an effort to only include the likeliest interactions to get violent. It is found the same way as graph 1. Percentage of violent offenses divided by percentage of US population. If you combine the two data points, you end up with the following: So in other words, maybe Asians should be upset. In talking through this with my father, a retired officer, he speculated that the higher rate of Asian incidents could probably be traced to language barriers to some extent. Anyway, just thoughts on the topic. Certainly open to discussion. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Why would it be the President’s job to police this sort of local crime? For people who constantly call him a fascist, you all sure seem to want him to be everywhere doing everything! After three plus years you STILL do not understand the guy. Amazing! Nobody said it’s Trump’s job to manage local policing. And the hyperbole fits. Trump is the guy who apparently wants to execute offending journalists, who was cool with gassing protesters for his sham photo op in front of a church he exploits, who baselessly accuses others of treason, and who believes that we should casually dispense five- or ten-year sentences for unnamed crimes committed by people around protests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Nobody said it’s Trump’s job to manage local policing. And the hyperbole fits. Trump is the guy who apparently wants to execute offending journalists, who was cool with gassing protesters for his sham photo op in front of a church he exploits, who baselessly accuses others of treason, and who believes that we should casually dispense five- or ten-year sentences for unnamed crimes committed by people around protests. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Nobody said it’s Trump’s job to manage local policing. And the hyperbole fits. Trump is the guy who apparently wants to execute offending journalists, who was cool with gassing protesters for his sham photo op in front of a church he exploits, who baselessly accuses others of treason, and who believes that we should casually dispense five- or ten-year sentences for unnamed crimes committed by people around protests. Wants to use the government to silence writers, sues people for speaking out, pays hush money to porn stars, scapegoats immigrants and just lies constantly, aside from that, he's a great steward of our constitutional system.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 Everywhere Statues Are Torn Down By The Mob, History Promises People Are Next by Christopher Bedford Original Article WASHINGTON, DC—For millennia, King Mob has targeted societies’ icons with varied goals and to varied ends, and few things are more foreboding than his desecration of civic art. Just as the targets have ranged from rulers to clergy, from tyrants to helpless, and from the guilty to the innocent, the outcomes have ranged from victory to defeat depending on the society’s strength and will. The promise of bloodshed coming alongside or following shortly after, however, is an historic certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Wants to use the government to silence writers, sues people for speaking out, pays hush money to porn stars, scapegoats immigrants and just lies constantly, aside from that, he's a great steward of our constitutional system.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I was thinking about this and, while it is true that any interaction could end up with lethal force, I think it's worth limiting to violent crimes plus weapons charges - which appear to be separate. This analysis was done in an effort to concisely summarize my take on the current ongoing discussion. I think generally this graph shows the injustice being protested. It is derived by the percentage of lethal interactions divided by the percentage of US population. As you can see, black Americans are the only demographic over 1, and they're over 1.5. Almost double the rate of the others. If this was what you focused on I could certainly understand the concern. If you then look at the violent crime rate, a different picture is painted. Violent is strictly violent crimes (murder, manslaughter, rape, assault, robbery) while violent+ also includes weapons offenses. This was in an effort to only include the likeliest interactions to get violent. It is found the same way as graph 1. Percentage of violent offenses divided by percentage of US population. If you combine the two data points, you end up with the following: So in other words, maybe Asians should be upset. In talking through this with my father, a retired officer, he speculated that the higher rate of Asian incidents could probably be traced to language barriers to some extent. Anyway, just thoughts on the topic. Certainly open to discussion. All of these statistics are important and just goes to show the complexity of the problem. Just a couple of points: (1) You really cannot limit the data to just violent crimes and weapons charges. There are so many instances of interactions that should never turn violent, let alone lethal; However, they often do, in fact, turn violent and lethal. Just look at the incidents involving George Floyd and Rayshawn Brooks. (2) The level of violent crime in black communities draws a disproportionate amount of LE resources and creates an entirely different dynamic in the nature of the response and interactions. All of which is difficult to meaningfully tease out from the data. It is an extraordinarily complex issue in which so many people want to define in simplistic ways. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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