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When in doubt, grab two OLB's! (FanSpeak OTC Mock, FanSpeak Big Board, with trades)

19: R1P19
OLB NOAH SPENCE
EASTERN KENTUCKY
61: R2P30
OLB JAYLON SMITH
NOTRE DAME
80: R3P17
DT VERNON BUTLER
LOUISIANA TECH
114: R4P19
ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ
STANFORD
123: R4P28
QB CARDALE JONES
OHIO STATE
125: R4P30
WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON
MISSISSIPPI STATE
144: R5P17
OT JOE HAEG
NORTH DAKOTA STATE
155: R5P28
DE BRONSON KAUFUSI
BRIGHAM YOUNG
174: R6P17
OT JOE DAHL
WASHINGTON STATE
187: R6P30
C GRAHAM GLASGOW
MICHIGAN
217: R7P28
S KEVIN BYARD
MIDDLE TENNESSEE

 

phenomenal draft, although it's pie in the sky. I would be stoked if Spence makes it to 19- but doubt that happens. Jaylon Smith and Vernon Smith both are first rounders IMO

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phenomenal draft, although it's pie in the sky. I would be stoked if Spence makes it to 19- but doubt that happens. Jaylon Smith and Vernon Smith both are first rounders IMO

I have a list of 44 first rounders, if you'd care to see it.

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MY “FIRST ROUNDERS”


1. OT LAREMY TUNSIL

2. DE JOEY BOSA

3. OT RONNIE STANLEY

4. CB JALEN RAMSEY

5. CB ELI APPLE

6. DE DEFOREST BUCKNER

7. QB CARSON WENTZ

8. DE JONATHAN BULLARD

9. OLB MYLES JACK

10. CB VERNON HARGREAVES III

11. DE EMMANUEL OGBAH

12. DT SHELDON RANKINS

13. QB JARED GOFF

14. CB MACKENSIE ALEXANDER

15. WR LAQUON TREADWELL

16. WR BRAXTON MILLER

17. OT JACK CONKLIN

18. ILB REGGIE RAGLAND

19. S DARIAN THOMPSON

20. OLB DARRON LEE

21. DT A'SHAWN ROBINSON

22. QB CONNOR COOK

23. DT ANDREW BILLINGS

24. OLB NOAH SPENCE

25. CB KENDALL FULLER

26. RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT

27. OT TAYLOR DECKER

28. OT SHON COLEMAN

29. QB PAXTON LYNCH

30. OT GERMAIN IFEDI

31. OT JASON SPRIGGS

32. WR WILL FULLER

33. DE SHAQ LAWSON

34. DT JARRAN REED

35. DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON

36. WR JOSH DOCTSON

37. DE KEVIN DODD

38. DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN

39. OLB LEONARD FLOYD

40. DE CARL NASSIB

41. DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE

42. DT SHELDON DAY

43. DT VERNON BUTLER

44. RB DERRICK HENRY

45. OLB JAYLON SMITH


Not on this list: DT AUSTIN JOHNSON, DE SHAWN OAKMAN

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MY FIRST ROUNDERS

 

1. OT LAREMY TUNSIL

2. DE JOEY BOSA

3. OT RONNIE STANLEY

4. CB JALEN RAMSEY

5. CB ELI APPLE

6. DE DEFOREST BUCKNER

7. QB CARSON WENTZ

8. DE JONATHAN BULLARD

9. OLB MYLES JACK

10. CB VERNON HARGREAVES III

11. DE EMMANUEL OGBAH

12. DT SHELDON RANKINS

13. QB JARED GOFF

14. CB MACKENSIE ALEXANDER

15. WR LAQUON TREADWELL

16. WR BRAXTON MILLER

17. OT JACK CONKLIN

18. ILB REGGIE RAGLAND

19. S DARIAN THOMPSON

20. OLB DARRON LEE

21. DT A'SHAWN ROBINSON

22. QB CONNOR COOK

23. DT ANDREW BILLINGS

24. OLB NOAH SPENCE

25. CB KENDALL FULLER

26. RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT

27. OT TAYLOR DECKER

28. OT SHON COLEMAN

29. QB PAXTON LYNCH

30. OT GERMAIN IFEDI

31. OT JASON SPRIGGS

32. WR WILL FULLER

33. DE SHAQ LAWSON

34. DT JARRAN REED

35. DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON

36. WR JOSH DOCTSON

37. DE KEVIN DODD

38. DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN

39. OLB LEONARD FLOYD

40. DE CARL NASSIB

41. DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE

42. DT SHELDON DAY

43. DT VERNON BUTLER

44. RB DERRICK HENRY

45. OLB JAYLON SMITH

 

Not on this list: DT AUSTIN JOHNSON, DE SHAWN OAKMAN

Well let's make it easy for you:

Non first rounders

 

Derrick Henry RB Alabama

Sheldon Day DE Notre Dame

Carl Nassib DE Penn State

Shalique Calhoun DE Mich State

Will Fuller WR Notre Dame

German Ifedi OT Texas A&M

Shon Coleman OT Auburn

Connor Cook QB Michigan State

 

I whittled your list down to 37 without a 2nd thought. There are some that I don't think are first rounders but could see slipping in at 29-31 like Billings, Doctson, Fuller, Spriggs,

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I really wanted Josh Perry to be better than he is. Physically, he's built how I like my ILB's but he's not nearly consistent enough or assertive enough to be near the top of my wishlist.

 

Being a little stiff comes with being that size, doesn't stop him being solid in coverage. Needs to take on blockers with more power, needs to shed better, can't get away with lapses in eye discipline with his athletic profile. Someone needs to take Brandon Spikes' nasty streak and give it to Perry.

 

Wouldn't touch him before the 3rd and would prefer Brothers/Martinez before him. I could only hope that some Ryan influence might turn him into the bastard he should be.

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Re-checked film on Myles Jack. Too harsh before. Some rawness vs. run but he's otherworldly athlete for LB. Top 10 talent. Top WLB in class.

I am sticking with my previous comparison for Myles Jack: Ryan Shazier & souped-up Jelani Jenkins hybrid.

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I need to resist the desire to write about Scooby Wright. It'll end up being a 3000 word thesis on mental acumen in football. I talk about him in theory and I'm quite rational. I watch him and it makes me so angry.

 

Making plays is the physical manifestation of mental acumen. He just lacks the physical skills to consistently do what his mind wants him to. He's not even 'unathletic', just that his athletic ability fails him enough in certain situations (which are unavoidable at the position) that I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be a starter.

 

He's a fascinating case study for evaluation.

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It's Scooby Wright's injury talking. When you evaluate. go back to pre-injury. If he can do that, he's worth a flier after RD2.

 

I was watching 2014 games. Nothing to do with the injury, he's just not good enough.

 

Backup, 2-down LB that might be able to play ST.

 

A while ago, I said he was the Nick O'Leary of linebackers. I think it's true. Productive in spite of himself but limited future as a pro.

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Myles Jack won't work out at combine

 

@nfldraftscout

What I've been told on Myles Jack: He's healthy, he's working out (see my clips from last week), just not ready for Combine testing.

 

Myles Jack is still a top five player in this class. Being smart/safe about testing knee too early.

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Spoiler alert: Bills will snag Jaylon Smith in Friday's mock at DraftTek. Here's how it happens.

1	1	Tennessee	Laremy Tunsil	LOT	Ole Miss
1	2	Cleveland	Jared Goff	QB	California
1	3	San Diego	Joey Bosa	OLB34	Ohio State
1	4	Dallas	Jalen Ramsey	CB	Florida St
1	5	Jacksonville	Vernon Hargreaves III	CB	Florida
1	6	Baltimore	Laquon Treadwell	WRF	Ole Miss
1	7	San Francisco	Ronnie Stanley	LOT	Notre Dame
1	8	Miami	Reggie Ragland	ILB	Alabama
1	9	Tampa Bay	Noah Spence	DE43	Ea. Kentucky
1	10	NY Giants	DeForest Buckner	DE43	Oregon
1	11	Chicago	Myles Jack	ILB	UCLA
1	12	New Orleans	A'Shawn Robinson	DT34	Alabama
1	13	Philadelphia	Carson Wentz	QB	North Dakota St
1	14	Oakland	Shaq Lawson	DE43	Clemson
1	15	Los Angeles	Paxton Lynch	QB	Memphis
1	16	Detroit	Taylor Decker	LOT	Ohio State
1	17	Atlanta	Emmanuel Ogbah	DE43	Oklahoma St
1	18	Indianapolis	Leonard Floyd	OLB34	Georgia
1	19	Buffalo	Jaylon Smith	ILB	Notre Dame

The Bills would have the enviable position of taking Smith (which they could do in a heartbeat), or trading it (6 other teams that haven't drafted yet want ILB before Day 3, and would pay dearly for Smith).

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So, I wrote something on Joshua Perry - http://buffalofambase.org/2016/02/18/2016-nfl-draft-ohio-state-lb-joshua-perry/

 

Please don't set Buckeye Twitter on me, Yolo.

:lol:

Interstingly Buckeye fans are abuzz that his replacement Dante Booker is apparently better than he is, according to our MLB Raekwon McMillan and Perry himself. So no worries but he's a fan favorite for sure because such a great person.

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:lol:

Interstingly Buckeye fans are abuzz that his replacement Dante Booker is apparently better than he is, according to our MLB Raekwon McMillan and Perry himself. So no worries but he's a fan favorite for sure because such a great person.

 

I did make the effort to include the Lott trophy nomination. I have listened to you when you've spoke about his character so I thought it was only fair to include it. God knows I give out enough flack to those with character concerns.

 

I don't love him as a player but I still like him. Will be firmly behind Jack, Smith, Ragland, Brothers & Martinez in my ILB rankings but I think there's something to work with there.

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I did make the effort to include the Lott trophy nomination. I have listened to you when you've spoke about his character so I thought it was only fair to include it. God knows I give out enough flack to those with character concerns.

 

I don't love him as a player but I still like him. Will be firmly behind Jack, Smith, Ragland, Brothers & Martinez in my ILB rankings but I think there's something to work with there.

will be interesting to see where he goes in the draft. Could be a Preston Brown type? Or do you think 3rd is too high?
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