Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yeah, he has his paradiddles down. He needs work on his flam-taps though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Now for a real drum god"ess" I give you Emmanuelle Caplette. I've asked her to marry me several times with no reply. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3fTeZQF9MY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) I don't like the modern tight drum sounds at all. I like rumbling drums . Ginger Baker's phrasing is so great, melodic and varied (unlike Peart's which is almost always mechanical, and symmetrical.... "big 4 measure fill, ends with a single crash, followed by same big 4 measure fill, ends with 2 crashes, followed by same big 4 measure fill, ends with 3 crashes, followed by...." guess what's coming next?) Edited December 8, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Geddy Lee says today that Neil's quote was taken out of context and that Neil has not 100% retired. Much to the chagrin of our Rush hating friends, it appears that you are right. Geddy (I know...he ain't all that as a bassist either) explains that Peart's comments were more about being retired from extended touring. http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/rush-peart-retire-geddy-lee-1.3355864 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Much to the chagrin of our Rush hating friends, it appears that you are right. Geddy (I know...he ain't all that as a bassist either) explains that Peart's comments were more about being retired from extended touring. http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/rush-peart-retire-geddy-lee-1.3355864 Rush hating friends? Who are those people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 My favorite female metal drummer. And she's not hard on the eyes either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 My favorite female metal drummer. And she's not hard on the eyes either. Funny how a thread about Neal Pert turns into a thread about female drummers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I don't like the modern tight drum sounds at all. I like rumbling drums . Ginger Baker's phrasing is so great, melodic and varied (unlike Peart's which is almost always mechanical, and symmetrical.... "big 4 measure fill, ends with a single crash, followed by same big 4 measure fill, ends with 2 crashes, followed by same big 4 measure fill, ends with 3 crashes, followed by...." guess what's coming next?) So what are you saying? Pert is like the Nickleback of drumming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Your argument is that Peart isn't a swing or big band drummer, therefore he sucks. Good argument. Did you know Peyton Manning sucks because he's not a defensive end? As responses to his post go, it'd probably be fair for him to call you an idiot for this one. Edited December 9, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Good. He was "The Stiffest Drummer in the World". The guy couldn't swing his way out of a paper bag. His influence on drummers was a bad one. Um . . .no. Just . . . no. started about 10 replies, but you just couldn't be more wrong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) I've ruminated over this for days(believe it or not) And I have to say that the Ginger Baker solo is nice. But I think we're talking about song by song drumming. Baker is a great drummer,but not the best ever I respect chef Jim as a poaster, but I've been around a lot of drummers (and I LIVE in prog rock), and no one considers this to be "easy.". https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MavlwR1z6hE Edited December 13, 2015 by Philly McButterpants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I've ruminated over this for days(believe it or not) And I have to say that the Ginger Baker solo is nice. But I think we're talking about song by song drumming. Baker is a great drummer,but not the best ever I respect chef Jim as a poaster, but I've been around a lot of drummers (and I LIVE in prog rock), and no one considers this to be "easy.". https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MavlwR1z6hE Let me clarify. Never said what he played was easy but it's also not hard and the song you linked is a perfect example. He's not a simple in the pocket drummer but he's not far outside the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Let me clarify. Never said what he played was easy but it's also not hard and the song you linked is a perfect example. He's not a simple in the pocket drummer but he's not far outside the pocket. I have heard guys play super technical drum parts, but who can turn around and play a simple part with a ton of groove. Guys that can play the "silences" too. Neil Peart is all technique. He could never play something like "Beast of Burden" by the Stones, because he can't find the groove. he can't push and pull, instead only hit machine-like, right on the beat. There are plenty of guys that can do both. Peart is just "more is better", cramming as many hits in as possible, and doing it with his @55 tightly clenched. I never claimed Ginger Baker was "the Best", but he is damn good technically, plays great grooves, and plays melodically. Peart tries to make a science out of magic. Edited December 14, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 It's so refreshing to have a different Rush hating douche besides Dean and Wawrow in these threads. one: i don't hate rush. i just think they're over-rated. i saw them perform numerous times in the late 1970s, including front-row seats at either the Joe or Cobo Hall in Detroit (can't remember which). two: the reasons i moved away from liking rush was discovering bands such as The Clash, Cheap Trick, the Pretenders (first two albums), Tom Waits (Rain Dogs), the Jam and eventually the replacements, among others, and determining that i'd prefer my rock and roll to feature more of a snarl than something involving red barchettas. three: heck, of songs about red cars, rush's pales dreadfully in comparison to Prince's Little Red Corvette. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I actually like Peart as an author. Not calling him Hemmingway but he has a soul searching story to tell and has done so as an author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) one: i don't hate rush. i just think they're over-rated. i saw them perform numerous times in the late 1970s, including front-row seats at either the Joe or Cobo Hall in Detroit (can't remember which). two: the reasons i moved away from liking rush was discovering bands such as The Clash, Cheap Trick, the Pretenders (first two albums), Tom Waits (Rain Dogs), the Jam and eventually the replacements, among others, and determining that i'd prefer my rock and roll to feature more of a snarl than something involving red barchettas. three: heck, of songs about red cars, rush's pales dreadfully in comparison to Prince's Little Red Corvette. jw If you want snarl, try the last 3 or 4 albums, John. Starting with Counterparts, Vapor Trails (only the Remixed version - the original is pretty much unlistenable now), Snakes and Arrows, Clockwork Angels... They definitely got back to their power trio roots and away from all the synth stuff of the mid-80s to mid-90s. Headlong Flight: Far Cry: One Little Victory: Stick It Out: Edited January 8, 2016 by JÂy RÛßeÒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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