Beef Jerky Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/rush_drummer_neil_peart_i_am_retiring_from_music.html [video=youtube;zbJSfDtolRw] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Good. He was "The Stiffest Drummer in the World". The guy couldn't swing his way out of a paper bag. His influence on drummers was a bad one. Edited December 8, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Good. He was "The Stiffest Drummer in the World". The guy couldn't swing his way out of a paper bag. His influence on drummers was a bad one. Yeah. And that Jimmy Hendrix character. How dare he taint the music world with his left-handedness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yeah. And that Jimmy Hendrix character. How dare he taint the music world with his left-handedness? Don't even get me started on that damn Bob Dylan. With all of the gramatical errors in his lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Good. He was "The Stiffest Drummer in the World". The guy couldn't swing his way out of a paper bag. His influence on drummers was a bad one. http://www.musicradar.com/news/drums/rush-drum-legend-neil-peart-on-the-pursuit-of-excellence-604582 Neil's mastery of his trade has made him the toast of his peers in the rock community. His career is littered with classic performances and brilliantly crafted drum parts that are vital to Rush's musical identity. Yet despite his success, Neil remains a student of his art, reinventing his playing virtually from scratch in the 90s with drum guru Freddie Gruber and recently undertaking another course of study with Peter Erskine. The continuing evolution of Neil's abilities speaks to the truth of the maxim that success is not an act, but a habit. The pursuit of excellence is a journey, not a destination. "I met Freddie around that same time of the recording of the Buddy Rich tribute. We became lifelong friends and started working together to loosen up my playing. That's what his coaching was all about - it was all physical, not musical. He's not the kind of teacher who teaches you how to play the drums, he teaches you how to dance on the drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Geddy Lee says today that Neil's quote was taken out of context and that Neil has not 100% retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) http://www.musicradar.com/news/drums/rush-drum-legend-neil-peart-on-the-pursuit-of-excellence-604582 Yep, he finally realized he was stiff. Why else would he seek the mentor? It's true that after the mentoring, his playing was better, but his reputation was built on his tightassed playing. I mean, that's the stuff you guys love, right? "YYZ"..."Bytor and the Snow Frog"... Hendrix has nothing to do with Peart. In fact I would consider Hendrix's approach (imagination/feel>technique) to be the opposite of Peart's technocratic approach. Same with Dylan, he couldn't be further from Peart in approach. Edited December 8, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yep, he finally realized he was stiff. Why else would he seek the mentor? It's true that after the mentoring, his playing was better, but his reputation was built on his tightassed playing. I mean, that's the stuff you guys love, right? "YYZ"..."Bytor and the Snow Frog"... Hendrix has nothing to do with Peart. In fact I would consider Hendrix's approach (imagination/feel>technique) to be the opposite of Peart's technocratic approach. Same with Dylan, he couldn't be further from Peart in approach. It's so refreshing to have a different Rush hating douche besides Dean and Wawrow in these threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 It's so refreshing to have a different Rush hating douche besides Dean and Wawrow in these threads. You need to resort to name-calling, because I poked a hole in your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 It's so refreshing to have a different Rush hating douche besides Dean and Wawrow in these threads. Can I jump in? I knew Pert was not a drumming God when I realized his drumming was some of the easiest for me to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 You need to resort to name-calling, because I poked a hole in your argument. Your argument is that Peart isn't a swing or big band drummer, therefore he sucks. Good argument. Did you know Peyton Manning sucks because he's not a defensive end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 You need to resort to name-calling, because I poked a hole in your argument. You poked a hole in my argument? How so? You made a broad (and douchey) comment that the article I linked to proved wrong. Can I jump in? I knew Pert was not a drumming God when I realized his drumming was some of the easiest for me to play. Uh huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Your argument is that Peart isn't a swing or big band drummer, therefore he sucks. Good argument. Did you know Peyton Manning sucks because he's not a defensive end? Nope. The term "swing" is also used to describe a drummer's ability to groove. Really, that needs to be explained? And Peart admitted as much..."We became lifelong friends and started working together to loosen up my playing". A little late, what 35 years into his career? All the "classic" Rush albums have the stiff guy playing on them. Edited December 8, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Uh huh. Does that mean you don't believe me? Well it may not be the easiest for me to play that would be the ABB only because I've listened to them a hell of a lot more but Rush is not as much of a challenge to play as most of the other music I listen to and try to play along with.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 You poked a hole in my argument? How so? You made a broad (and douchey) comment that the article I linked to proved wrong. Uh huh. What about the article proved me "wrong"? The article makes it clear that Peart felt his playing was too stiff. That was my exact claim, and Neil agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Nope. The term "swing" is also used to describe a drummer's ability to groove. Really, that needs to be explained? And Peart admitted as much..."We became lifelong friends and started working together to loosen up my playing". A little late, what 35 years into his career? All the "classic" Rush albums have the stiff guy playing on them. Oh, so you're judging as "sucks" him on a single quality of his mechanics. Yeah, that makes you look like much less of an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 What about the article proved me "wrong"? The article makes it clear that Peart felt his playing was too stiff. That was my exact claim, and Neil agreed. Your comment implied it was his entire body of work, he reinvented his style over 20 years ago. Still this is always fun for you guys to drop in on these Rush threads. Music is subjective and if Rush/Peart isn't your cup of tea I've got no issue with that. The guy is universally regarded as one of, if not the best rock drummer of all time. Sorry if I take the opinion of his professional peers over guys who lament how his playing wouldn't work with a jam band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Oh, so you're judging as "sucks" him on a single quality of his mechanics. Yeah, that makes you look like much less of an idiot. What are you trying say here? And I didn't use the term "sucks". Edited December 8, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Oh, so you're judging as "sucks" him on a single quality of his mechanics. Yeah, that makes you look like much less of an idiot. My opinion is he is solid in his mechanics. One of the best rudimentary drummers out there but undeserving of the God status many have put upon him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) My opinion is he is solid in his mechanics. One of the best rudimentary drummers out there but undeserving of the God status many have put upon him. Yeah, he has his paradiddles down. I think people that struggle with the creative/imaginative aspects of art, cling to technique because it is tangible, measurable. It can be practiced. Peart was obsessive about it, and the fact that he went to a mentor to loosen up his playing, is kind of comical to me. Edited December 8, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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