TakeYouToTasker Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) In his last two games, Tyrod Taylor's offense has been off the field with 3 and Outs or has turned the ball over in fewer than 3 plays in 12 out of 24 drives. (I included the victory formation, kneel down drive at the end of the Titan's game in order to improve Tyrod's numbers) That's 3 and Out or worse 50% of the time, folks. Edited October 12, 2015 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 People's expectations of QB play reach absurd levels. Even the greats make bad throws sometimes. But because we analyze our players with microscopes we find every flaw and build off them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 In his last two games, Tyrod Taylor's offense has been off the field with 3 and Outs or has turned the ball over in fewer than 3 plays in 12 out of 24 drives. That's 3 and Out or worse 50% of the time, folks. There are other players on that offense......how is our running game doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 In his last two games, Tyrod Taylor's offense has been off the field with 3 and Outs or has turned the ball over in fewer than 3 plays in 12 out of 24 drives. That's 3 and Out or worse 50% of the time, folks. We aren't interested in those stats, TU2T. Only the ones that make Taylor appear better than he is, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 There are other players on that offense......how is our running game doing? 4th in the NFL. Our offensive line play has been ranked in the top third of the league as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 People's expectations of QB play reach absurd levels. Even the greats make bad throws sometimes. But because we analyze our players with microscopes we find every flaw and build off them. Promo, I do try to remain somewhat objective.....one of my concerns is third down passing productivity...... Right up until the last 2 games it seems to me that Tyrod was money on 3rd down......then it did drop off. I want to say its because of missing Sammy Watkins.....but I hate to base my reasoning just on one player being out. My opinion......teams have seen what TT does to be able to convert third down passes.....and they have adjusted.......and the way to combat that is to run the ball more effectively. We need to run the ball better. 4th in the NFL. Our offensive line play has been ranked in the top third of the league as well. That just goes to show you that stats dont tell the story......agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Promo, I do try to remain somewhat objective.....one of my concerns is third down passing productivity...... Right up until the last 2 games it seems to me that Tyrod was money on 3rd down......then it did drop off. I want to say its because of missing Sammy Watkins.....but I hate to base my reasoning just on one player being out. My opinion......teams have seen what TT does to be able to convert third down passes.....and they have adjusted.......and the way to combat that is to run the ball more effectively. We need to run the ball better. That just goes to show you that stats dont tell the story......agreed? Yes. Perhaps if we were the first, second, or third best running team in the NFL. This 4th stuff just isn't getting it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yes. Perhaps if we were the first, second, or third best running team in the NFL. This 4th stuff just isn't getting it done. And tyrods 200 yards that contribute to that 4th... mean nothing??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 And tyrods 200 yards that contribute to that 4th... mean nothing??? They mean that he's not good enough to pass the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 They mean that he's not good enough to pass the ball. Gug...your way to smart for that...... Tyrod's running yards at QB are overinflating the running back yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 so it's uneducated to say he played like garbage through three and a half quarters?50 + yards in the first half. Straight ballin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 They mean that he's not good enough to pass the ball. Or they mean on 3rd and 23, he is wide open to easily rush for 23 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 They mean that he's not good enough to pass And our receivers have absolutely nothing to do with the struggles in the last 2 games. The line too. PFF says they're great so they're great. Despite the fact that we can all see that they haven't been. Penalties have nothing to do with stalling out our offense. Even the holding penalties, illegal formations, and false starts that absolutely kill a running team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) 4th in the NFL. Our offensive line play has been ranked in the top third of the league as well. Um, our running game is 6th (not 4th) in the NFL for one reason only - the presence of Taylor. The RBs are averaging 3.8 ypc, which is 26th in the league. Edited October 12, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 50 + yards in the first half. Straight ballin. Suprised to see you posting so soon......please make sure to make an in game post about our demise each week....its like a good luck charm Um, our running game is 6th (not 4th) in the NFL for one reason only - the presence of Taylor. The RBs are averaging 3.8 ypc, which is 26th in the league. OOps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) They mean that he's not good enough to pass the ball. Yeah. His 37.4 YPG have contributed, but they've largely all come off broken play scramble drills. He's what we'll do. Let's subtract his 187 yards, divide it by two, and add the 93 back in with the assumption that someone replaces half those yards if Tyrod isn't getting them. That puts us at 547 yards on the ground, which is good enough for 14th in the league. Um, our running game is 6th (not 4th) in the NFL for one reason only - the presence of Taylor. The RBs are averaging 3.8 ypc, which is 26th in the league. 4th And your assumption that if Taylor is removed from the equation, nothing would replace him is lacking. Edited October 12, 2015 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yeah. His 37.4 YPG have contributed, but they've largely all come off broken play scramble drills. He's what we'll do. Let's subtract his 187 yards, divide it by two, and add the 93 back in with the assumption that someone replaces half those yards if Tyrod isn't getting them. That puts us at 547 yards on the ground, which is good enough for 14th in the league. 4th And your assumption that if Taylor is removed from the equation, nothing would replace him is lacking. So does this mean TT's run are not included in that stat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Yeah. His 37.4 YPG have contributed, but they've largely all come off broken play scramble drills. He's what we'll do. Let's subtract his 187 yards, divide it by two, and add the 93 back in with the assumption that someone replaces half those yards if Tyrod isn't getting them. That puts us at 547 yards on the ground, which is good enough for 14th in the league. 4th And your assumption that if Taylor is removed from the equation, nothing would replace him is lacking. 6th, man. Come on. http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingYardsPerGame Look at the yards per game stat, not raw yards. Some teams have had byes and 2 teams have a game tonight. As for what would replace the 187 yards, I'm guessing that if it's someone like Cassell, it's mostly negative sack yardage. Edited October 12, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yeah. His 37.4 YPG have contributed, but they've largely all come off broken play scramble drills. He's what we'll do. Let's subtract his 187 yards, divide it by two, and add the 93 back in with the assumption that someone replaces half those yards if Tyrod isn't getting them. That puts us at 547 yards on the ground, which is good enough for 14th in the league. 4th And your assumption that if Taylor is removed from the equation, nothing would replace him is lacking. It might be replaced by 18 EJ incomplete passes. Or 1 yard dumpoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Um, our running game is 6th (not 4th) in the NFL for one reason only - the presence of Taylor. The RBs are averaging 3.8 ypc, which is 26th in the league. My only argument with this is we're also including the 3rd,4th and 5th string RB's. McCoy and Karlos were averaging 4.4 YPC before they went out. But that would just be manipulating the numbers to draw a different conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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