FireChan Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'm not sure how NOT being a prolific player in the league is cause for celebration, but fine. And, okay. We'll just keep waiting. Who do you think will be President by the next time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Who do you think will be President by the next time? i dont know that the two hackett/marrone fans are the best to be leading a victory lap on anything related to offensive production Edited September 29, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Spiller is probably still learning the terminology, playbook and other players numbers. He is just coming off an injury but I don't see him being a big factor in the offense until later in the season...if at all this year. The Saints were foolish to let Jimmy Graham, Darren Sproles leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 i dont know that the two hackett/marrone fans are the best to be leading a victory lap on anything related to offensive production I have never been wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 CJ Spiller is a good football player with games where he can be excellent. Unfortunately he has durability issues. In the end, he wasnt worth the draft slot we used on him. That's the long and the short of it. It's pretty clear he wasn't psychically capable of carrying the load (20+ carries) week in and week out. And that's why there's no comparison to McCoy. As Bill said above, it was another stupid first round draft pick from the old regimes that screwed it up every year. I don't wish him ill, but I'm certainly glad the Bills are no longer spending millions on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Was he winded at all though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 That's the long and the short of it. It's pretty clear he wasn't psychically capable of carrying the load (20+ carries) week in and week out. And that's why there's no comparison to McCoy. As Bill said above, it was another stupid first round draft pick from the old regimes that screwed it up every year. I don't wish him ill, but I'm certainly glad the Bills are no longer spending millions on him. He was a nix pick, who assembled a lot of our talent including our current GM - wasn't he? And we also allegedly offered him a pretty good payday back on February under this regime So I'm not sure your post hit the mark like you intended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 He was a nix pick, who assembled a lot of our talent including our current GM - wasn't he? And we also allegedly offered him a pretty good payday back on February under this regime So I'm not sure your post hit the mark like you intended I think that his post was on point. Spiller was a stupid draft pick regardless of who selected him. The fact that he was offered a big contract IS a concern. Whaley was very lucky that he did not accept it. And so are we as Bills Fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 (2) Mods who will shut down/close any thread that is remotely similar to another thread EXCEPT FOR threads bashing CJ (and a few other subjects) We are bastards, aren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 He was a nix pick, who assembled a lot of our talent including our current GM - wasn't he? And we also allegedly offered him a pretty good payday back on February under this regime So I'm not sure your post hit the mark like you intended Seriously. Thank god for that McCoy deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 i dont know that the two hackett/marrone fans are the best to be leading a victory lap on anything related to offensive production That's a gross misrepresentation and you damn well know it. My contention was and always is: if you don't have the Joe's, don't B word about the X's and O's. Hating Hackett/Marrone is all the rage in Bills Nation and for good reason. And loving Roman is just as much en vogue right now. But jeebus: Tyrod, Karlos, McCoy, Incognito, Felton, Clay and Harvin: what do all these players have in common? They're the most integral members of our offense right now...and they're brand new to the team. They represent considerable upgrades at nearly half of the offense, so don't anyone sit there with a straight face and tell me the unit is better now simply because we ditched Hackett/Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 He was a nix pick, who assembled a lot of our talent including our current GM - wasn't he? And we also allegedly offered him a pretty good payday back on February under this regime So I'm not sure your post hit the mark like you intended That pick was all Chan Gailey, and him wanting his "waterbug" type player. Probably because he saw the talent in the kid firsthand during his HC college days at Georgia Tech. Spiller at Clemson (2006-2009) was the ACC offensive player of the year in 2009. Naturally Nix wanted to give his new hire as HC the players he wanted. Gailey also came into Buffalo spouting to the FO that he didn't need superstars on offense to win games, and could get it done with average players. (perhaps "average" meaning less expensive) The man might have been a bit more successful in Buffalo if he knew who to hire as his DC. JMHO But yea, I'm darn glad he is a Saint now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) That's a gross misrepresentation and you damn well know it. My contention was and always is: if you don't have the Joe's, don't B word about the X's and O's. Hating Hackett/Marrone is all the rage in Bills Nation and for good reason. And loving Roman is just as much en vogue right now. But jeebus: Tyrod, Karlos, McCoy, Incognito, Felton, Clay and Harvin: what do all these players have in common? They're the most integral members of our offense right now...and they're brand new to the team. They represent considerable upgrades at nearly half of the offense, so don't anyone sit there with a straight face and tell me the unit is better now simply because we ditched Hackett/Marrone. While a lot of this is true, guys are running free all over the field. That's scheme, it's a combination of players and coaching. Edited September 30, 2015 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 While a lot of this is true guys are running free all over the field. That's scheme, it's a combination of players and coaching. They were last year too. All-22's showed Sammy/Woods in giant gaps all over the field. But to the larger point, nowhere did I mean to imply that Roman doesn't have SOMETHING to do with the improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 CJ is a speed runner that needs space. What hurt him was not having an accurate QB who can provide him the swing pass and short drops that he could take it to the house. We can't compare him for a North-South type runner and he never was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 While a lot of this is true, guys are running free all over the field. That's scheme, it's a combination of players and coaching. Yea heaven forbid we use formations, and motion to create favorable and successful matchups. The players are better but they are also being put in better positions to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doro Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Just hundred yards behind Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 We are bastards, aren't we? Well... Maybe you are... The rest of us, not so much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman00 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I have no hate for Spiller. He's an exciting back, he has limitations but when he is used properly he can change games. Plus he was a great guy off the field as well. I hope he gets healthy and goes on a tear in NO.... As long as he doesn't do it against us, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) No longer MIA. Article says something about CJ Spiller "in space" http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2015/10/cj_spiller_saves_the_day_for_s.html Edited October 5, 2015 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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