YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Sackenberg on in 30 for all your viewing pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 he'll be gone before bills pick. long gone. dumb thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Quite possibly the scariest draft tweet of the process so far. https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/683334861319499776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Quite possibly the scariest draft tweet of the process so far. https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/683334861319499776 This can't be real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 This can't be real life. If you take him in the first, you are more than likely mortgaging your job on his success. He's not completely responsible for his regression but to pretend that it's 100% on Franklin is a bit fanciful. The tape says UDFA, my heart says take him Day 3 and try to salvage him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 If you take him in the first, you are more than likely mortgaging your job on his success. He's not completely responsible for his regression but to pretend that it's 100% on Franklin is a bit fanciful. The tape says UDFA, my heart says take him Day 3 and try to salvage him. yep - you can give him all the excuses in the book (and they are reasons) but his film still should not be that bad. He has all the tools.... Yada yada yada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 yep - you can give him all the excuses in the book (and they are reasons) but his film still should not be that bad. He has all the tools.... Yada yada yada My favourite tweet on this debate - https://twitter.com/Dan_Hatman/status/683337715786596353 If you don't already, you really should follow Dan Hatman. Former NFL scout, director of The Scouting Academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) If you take him in the first, you are more than likely mortgaging your job on his success. He's not completely responsible for his regression but to pretend that it's 100% on Franklin is a bit fanciful. The tape says UDFA, my heart says take him Day 3 and try to salvage him. The hype surrounding this kid is incredible. I'm sure Terry would be thrilled with him based on hype and the Penn State connection. On paper he's fantastic but he's s bit erratic I think. Edited January 2, 2016 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) My favourite tweet on this debate - https://twitter.com/Dan_Hatman/status/683337715786596353 If you don't already, you really should follow Dan Hatman. Former NFL scout, director of The Scouting Academy. its true, and I know that "NFL traits" are weighted more heavily than college production. However they need to be careful not to overvalue one or the other. Overvaluing production leads to guys like Manziel and Tebow in the first round. Overvaluing traits leads to a guy like Hack in the first round. Or... EJ in the first Edited January 2, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 @NFL_CFB UPDATE: Hackenberg will not return to #TaxSlayerBowl. His #PennState career could end with injury --> http://bit.ly/1JQ3aeu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Aaand Sackenberg out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 The hype surrounding this kid is incredible. I'm sure Terry would be thrilled with him based on hype and the Penn State connection. On paper he's fantastic but he's s bit erratic I think. To a certain degree, I think he's the victim of the hype and circumstances not created by him. He's very clearly not as good as people said but he was supposedly "the next Andrew Luck" before he took a college snap. I'm sure he's a really good kid and he hasn't deserved being built up and knocked down by the same people that put him on said pedestal. I hope he turns it around but watching his sophomore games was heartbreaking. He looked broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 To a certain degree, I think he's the victim of the hype and circumstances not created by him. He's very clearly not as good as people said but he was supposedly "the next Andrew Luck" before he took a college snap. I'm sure he's a really good kid and he hasn't deserved being built up and knocked down by the same people that put him on said pedestal. I hope he turns it around but watching his sophomore games was heartbreaking. He looked broken. even worse, the offense looked better after he went out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) And, as expected, Hackenberg has declared. https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/683395370408218624 Edited January 2, 2016 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 its true, and I know that "NFL traits" are weighted more heavily than college production. However they need to be careful not to overvalue one or the other. Overvaluing production leads to guys like Manziel and Tebow in the first round. Overvaluing traits leads to a guy like Hack in the first round. Or... EJ in the first My major problem is you need your coach and GM on the same page. If you are going to draft a qb in the 1st, you have to be committed to them. Say what you want to about EJ but the Bills murdered his development. It's what losing teams do. So if a qb gets picked high this year, I hope for their sake, they go to a team that actually has a plan. As sad as it is, Jacksonville and Oakland did a much better job developing Qbs than we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 You really see a low ceiling with Bosa?!? He has been dominant his entire career while constantly facing double and triple teams. He is good against the run and was a 5 star recruit. The talent with Bosa isn't the question at all. He could easily be a 12-15 sack guy that is great against the run. He may be an idiot but he is a high floor, high ceiling guy which is why he'll go at or near the top. Bosa will be a monster. There's nothing not to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) he'll be gone before bills pick.if you want a similar guy with high ceiling can be had later (but not much later) -- Noah Spence, EKU Edited January 2, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Also, Joshua Garnett of Stanford please. Smart, tough interior lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Texas A&M right tackle Germain Ifedi a difficult NFL evaluation A talented, but inconsistent offensive tackle prospect, Ifedi has first round feet, but he is sloppy from the waist up and has been a model of inconsistency, making him a tough player to project to the NFL. @NFL_CFB Notre Dame RB C.J. Prosise reveals intentions for 2016 #NFLDraft --> http://bit.ly/1JlYSAo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 A link to my Germain Ifedi scout report - https://twitter.com/Tanner_ASU/status/660143251005898753 I kid, I kid. He is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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