YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) Watching the post draft analysis on espn and polian said he thought the bills had a good draft, but then went all melancholy about the fact they didnt take a Qb and would be entering the season with EJ manuel and "retread" Matt Cassel. He sounded like Eeyore. Imo the bills signing TT is just like drafting a qb. The benefit is he's been a disciple already behind a SB winning qb for a few years. I didn't think any of the QBs left after the top 2 would be able to play in the NFL this year. The experts said all had big flaws and were all projects, none projected starters. So wth is Polian's issue. Plus we have 3 project QBs as it is. Edited May 3, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 The QB prospect roulette wheel spins around every year. The 2015 crop was a bad one, but 2016 may be better. So be it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) I would have drafted one instead of the Karlos Williams and/or the Clemson LBs selections. The RB position is too crowded and the LB had surgery on both knees, if you want to gamble, do it on the most important position on the field. Edited May 3, 2015 by Fixxxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I respect Bill for his work in Buffalo, but the game has passed him by. This was a terrible QB class and three of the four QBs on the roster are all much better options for the 2015 season than any of the QBs available past the second pick. Enjoy the Hall of Fame, Bill, you earned it. But with respect, it's time to hang up your spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Next year is a down year for QBs. Hope several Juniors show a marked improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) Next year is a down year for QBs. Hope several Juniors show a marked improvement. i too hope Hackenburg shows improvement but he has all the tools to be a franchise qb type. I love connor cook as well, a pro style guy. Another pro style is Cody Kessler at USC. Edited May 3, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Next year is a down year for QBs. Hope several Juniors show a marked improvement. There are a handful of guys (including underclassmen who may not declare) that give me reason to expect the 2016 QB draft class to be much improved -- at least in terms of depth. Cook, Kessler, maybe Jones are all guys who interest me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Thank you again, Doug Marrone, from the bottom of my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 i too hope Hackenburg shows improvement but he has all the tools to be a franchise qb type. I love connor cook as well, a pro style guy. Another pro style is Cody Kessler at USC. It won't surprise me to see Kessler as the number 2 prospect by the time this year's out. The guy can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) I would have drafted one instead of the Karlos Williams and/or the Clemson LBs selections. The RB position is two crowded and the LB had surgery on both knees, if you want to gamble, do it on the most important position on the field.understood, but his comment seemed to insinuate we needed another guy to compete for the starting job. Unless he wanted us to trade our next 4 1st rd picks for winston or Mariota, not sure where is going with that analysis. None of the QBs below them are going to be competing to start. Not even in nj. There are a handful of guys (including underclassmen who may not declare) that give me reason to expect the 2016 QB draft class to be much improved -- at least in terms of depth. Cook, Kessler, maybe Jones are all guys who interest me. jones is going to fall into the spread offense, one-read guy trap. I'm also somewhat concerned he won't start at Osu. That said - his skill set plus romans offense could be ridiculous to stop. Edited May 3, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 understood, but his comment seemed to insinuate we needed another guy to compete for the starting job. Unless he wanted us to trade our next 4 1st rd picks for winston or Mariota, not sure where is going with that analysis. None of the QBs below them are going to be competing to start. Not even in nj. jones is going to fall into the spread offense, one-read guy trap. I'm also somewhat concerned he won't start at Osu. That said - his skill set plus romans offense could be ridiculous to stop. Maybe, to him, not known projects are better than known projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Maybe, to him, not known projects are better than known projects. maybe - but I haven't seen one analyst say anyone below mariota could play right away.and polian was talking about this season's qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Kessler is strictly a short passer. He has no arm for the 20 plus yard throws. If you want a dink and dunk QB, he is your man. The top 10 all have major issues. Connor Cook is the top QB now. Hogan from Stanford could be the star of the 2016 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) He's right, they've mismanaged the position and continue to do so. DRAFT ONE EVERY YEAR UNTIL YOU FIND ONE. Overdraft if you have to - BPA is less important when you don't have any QB. Mettenberger last year. Grayson, Hundley or Petty this year. You can't win the lottery without buying tickets. It's the most important position. Believe it or not it's more important than nickel corner or the fourth RB. Edited May 3, 2015 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I know this is really unpopular, but I'm a big believer in drafting a QB every year. Every invention in history has been accomplished by trial and error experimenting. The odds of you being successful are FAR lower when you select a QB every 5 years, than if you select one every year. Similar to you trying only 1 idea every 5 years, than 1 idea every year. If the value of a good QB is X times higher than any other position on the field (and we have a mostly stacked team in every other position), I see no reason to pass on a Petty/Grayson/Hundley in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th round every year. At that point you can cut Tuel and have 4 promising QBs face off and you cut the one who shows the least potential or provides the worst results. Run the QBs like an A/B test until you find a winner. I see spending 4th round picks as similar to spending $100 in a marketing campaign to find the best advertisement. To make money, you need to spend money and to get good QBs, you need to use draft picks. This way you go into every draft saying "OK, we're taking a QB, who's the best guy at the best draft position". Now you end up taking Pat White, Colt Mccoy, Andy Dalton, and then Russell Wilson. Now boom, you have a franchise QB and a good young backup QB in Dalton you can trade for a high pick. In exchange this would have cost us Eric Wood, Alex Carrington, Aaron Williams, and T.J Graham. Are those 4 guys worth more than Russell Wilson and Andy Dalton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fires Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm still not giving up on EJ. I think he will be a workable QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) He's right, they've mismanaged the position and continue to do so. DRAFT ONE EVERY YEAR UNTIL YOU FIND ONE. Overdraft if you have to - BPA is less important when you don't have any QB. Mettenberger last year. Grayson, Hundley or Petty this year. You can't win the lottery without buying tickets. It's the most important position. Believe it or not it's more important than nickel corner or the fourth RB.i would have been fine with drafting someone on day 3 as a project. But, and I'm not sure how many different ways I can say this, he was referring to drafting someone to compete for the starting job this year. Edited May 3, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 i would have been fine wuth drafting someone on day 3 as a project. But, and I'm not sure how many different ways I can say this, he was referring to drafting someone to compete for the starting job this year. I understand - my point is that they do this every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm still not giving up on EJ. I think he will be a workable QB. me neither, but why not elevate the odds of finding a good QB by drafting one every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 I understand - my point is that they do this every year.they signed young TT - imo it's just as good or better as drafting some guy right out of school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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