scribo Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I've heard that he is in Buffalo today. Rex said that was not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Rex said that was not true.Take my intel for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Take my intel for what it is.Pick one- Hundley or Petty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Pick one- Hundley or Petty?The Petty interest is real. I like him more than Hundley but don't particularly like either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Take my intel for what it is. I believe you Kirby. I wonder if Whaley might be working the phones to trade back a little bit in the 2nd to pick up an additional pick......and then taking Petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Rex said that was not true. I believe Kirby--as far as I know he's never been wrong about this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 The Petty interest is real. I like him more than Hundley but don't particularly like either. Because i value your opinion Kirby....what is u dont like about Bryce Petty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Because i value your opinion Kirby....what is u dont like about Bryce Petty?He throws into huge windows. I watched the whole WV game and that was 1 of only 2 complete Baylor games that I watched. That probably isn't fair to Petty but I didn't like what I saw. I thought that he missed guys all over the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I believe the trade up in the late second more than I believe the pick at 50. Unless they really don't like EJ, which is possible but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 He throws into huge windows. I watched the whole WV game and that was 1 of only 2 complete Baylor games that I watched. That probably isn't fair to Petty but I didn't like what I saw. I thought that he missed guys all over the field. honest question.....do you think that some of that was the product of the offense he was asked to run....... I know the spread is a get rid of it quick offense.....which causes you not to go through progressions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 honest question.....do you think that some of that was the product of the offense he was asked to run....... I know the spread is a get rid of it quick offense.....which causes you not to go through progressions It's definitely a part of it. A lot of people like him & he is probably the 3rd QB on the majority of team's boards. He just doesn't look like a franchise guy to me but I'd be happy to be wrong if he comes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I believe the trade up in the late second more than I believe the pick at 50. Unless they really don't like EJ, which is possible but I doubt it. Rex went out of his way today to speak real nicely about EJ. That had to be for the sake of EJ's feelings. Why'd he care if the plan is to shed EJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Rex went out of his way today to speak real nicely about EJ. That had to be for the sake of EJ's feelings. Why'd he care if the plan is to shed EJ? Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean that lends more credence to the idea that Rex and the Bills don't like EJ, or more credence to the fact they probably do like EJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean that lends more credence to the idea that Rex and the Bills don't like EJ, or more credence to the fact they probably do like EJ? I think it means they like him enough to actually give him a chance. I think drafting Petty spells doom for EJ as a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean that lends more credence to the idea that Rex and the Bills don't like EJ, or more credence to the fact they probably do like EJ? He did put that caveat in his words though about how he wished EJ would play faster and maybe that really is the base problem of it all...... Cassell - the information is processed and the ball is out EJ - we sure wish he would play faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I think it means they like him enough to actually give him a chance. I think drafting Petty spells doom for EJ as a Bill. Right. That is why I don't think they are drafting a QB high. Maybe if Petty falls to the third round and no one else is rated higher but I truly doubt that would happen. Cassel is a lock. Taylor seems like a lock because Rex loves him and they had to convince him he would have a legit chance to be a starter. They are not going to cut him. That leaves EJ. They probably want to see what he can do. The comments by Whaley, the coaches, Watkins, McCoy, etc, make me believe they are going to give EJ a solid chance, and I think they would be dumb not to. Rex, Whaley, the Pegulas, and a lot of fans want the Bills to win game one, week one. Bryce Petty is not going to start opening day. There isn't a chance he would beat out Cassel. If they really truly think he has more than a 50-50 shot of being a franchise QB and have a first round grade on him and he is there at 50, then sure they might do it. I highly doubt any of those are the case though (except maybe being there at 50). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean that lends more credence to the idea that Rex and the Bills don't like EJ, or more credence to the fact they probably do like EJ? If they take Petty in round 2 or any QB in rds 2 or 3 - and I have NO idea if they will - then we know for a fact they don't like EJ. They traded for the other 2 guys after Ryan arrived, so presumably he's on board with them. If that scenario occurs, I expect that Manuel will be cut provided they can't trade him this weekend. The cap can handle the cut. If they don't draft a QB, Manuel will remain on the team. We'll know in 72 hours or so. Edited April 29, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 He did put that caveat in his words though about how he wished EJ would play faster and maybe that really is the base problem of it all...... Cassell - the information is processed and the ball is out EJ - we sure wish he would play faster That was a specific thing he noted about his throwing yesterday. That was not a make or break point on whether or not he can be a franchise QB or not. If they take Petty in round 2 or any QB in rds 2 or 3 - and I have NO idea if they will - then we know for a fact they don't like EJ. They traded for the other 2 guys after Ryan arrived, so presumably he's on board with them. If that scenario occurs, I expect that Manuel will be cut provided they can't trade him this weekend. The cap can handle the cut. If they don't draft a QB, Manuel will remain on the team. We'll know in 52 hours or so. Yup. That is why I don't think there is any real chance of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) That was a specific thing he noted about his throwing yesterday. That was not a make or break point on whether or not he can be a franchise QB or not. Yup. That is why I don't think there is any real chance of it. I do think there is a real chance of it. They aren't interviewing all of these qbs for nothing. Smokescreen? Seriously? Outer teams know that the Bills have a bad QB situation. They're not fooling anyone (assuming they're trying, which I'm not). They're doing due diligence. If their complaint is that Manuel doesn't "play fast" (as per what John says above), then they don't think he's any good. "Playing fast" is absolutely necessary for succeeding as a QB in the NFL. Edited April 29, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I do think there is a real chance of it. They aren't interviewing all of these qbs for nothing. Smokescreen? Seriously? Outer teams know that the Bills have a bad QB situation. They're not fooling anyone (assuming they're trying, which I'm not). They're doing due diligence. If their complaint is that Manuel doesn't "play fast" (as per what John says above), then they don't think he's any good. "Playing fast" is absolutely necessary for succeeding as a QB in the NFL.Ryan was talking about EJ throwing yesterday. Compared to Cassel, who has played 11 years in the league, EJ wasn't getting the ball out as fast as Cassel was. He was throwing well, but Rex was pointing out they wanted him to get the ball out a split second earlier. Cassel was throwing before the WR broke, EJ was throwing as the WR broke. It was a day one observation that they wanted him to do it a couple tenths of a second earlier. There is zero chance that had anything to do with what they think of him as a QB or drafting Petty. I think they think Petty is going to fall. To me there is also zero chance that after they are already done with their board, which they are, now is going to be the first time they really sat down with Petty outside of the combine. That makes no sense. If they are drafting him they have spoken to him several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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