Beef Jerky Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) really this is what aggravates you ? Yea, make your decision before you enter the NFL. Give another player a chance to be drafted sooner. Edited March 17, 2015 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 San Fran is poorly managed which is why the HC left & the players are following. Other than Kaepernick, name a SF player that has anything good to say about the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Goodell's failure to acknowledge CTE in any meaningful way is what really needs to be discussed. No NFL dedicated testing, awareness campaigns, research or funding for afflicted ex-players. Plenty of time and money for breast cancer awareness and abused women, but not one penny of marketing promotions dedicated to the disease that directly afflicts the players as a result of the game itself. The hypocrisy disgusts me. It would be like the military pretending PTSD didn't exist while promoting awareness of fibromyalgia. Goodell needs to get real with this disease, and start supporting the wounded warriors of the NFL whose lives are at real risk within a few years of retirement. THAT should be the fallout of this story. But it never will be. The media loves to have it both ways. A few NFL players abuse women, and the media jumps on that. The NFL responds to help women. Then the media needs something else to do, and jumps on this. The NFL needs to tell the media to F' off, and, as you suggest, take care of their own players first. And perhaps fewer head injuries lead to fewer "off field" issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yea, make your decision before you enter the NFL. Give another player a chance to be drafted sooner. yea, waiting til he got another concussion at camp and then further researching was really a jerk move.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 This is all about rookie contracts. If you are a top end performer, your rookie contract may not justify risks. The best way to deal with it is to leave, and hold the NFL accountable citing CTE. If you actually do want to play, come back the following year as a FA. In the meanwhile it pressures the NFL to change the contract structure. This is quite an interesting idea. Rookie contract, don't take a signing bonus that would need to be paid back, quit, return as FA. Concussion's are weird. My little bro got a concussion in a very gentle head bump. I've fractured my skull twice, and bounced my head off of concrete, fists, falling and so forth. I've never had one. It really seems like some people are more likely to get them. Imo I think genetics as well as other factors play into it. I've always been shocked at how some people like you can have sever head injury w/o a concussion, while others get a concussion from a headball in soccer. I think it has to do with where the impact comes from and the effect it has on the brain rattling in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) yea, waiting til he got another concussion at camp and then further researching was really a jerk move.... Yep b.c I go into construction sites without a helmet for my first year, then I look up the need for them after. If he didn't know that concussions are dangerous before he went to the NFL then that is stupid. Edited March 17, 2015 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 No. When I read on PFT that he retired, my first thought was "why walk away from the money? Play one more year to feather your retirement nest egg, like Orton." My second thought was, the NFL is in very very serious trouble. The game I love is in serious trouble. Help. As the great Nick Cave forewarned... "All things move toward their end, On that you can be sure." Although, I think the day when no one will want to bash someone else's head in for money is still a good distance off. Go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 @AlbertBreer: Borland played for 2 years at Wisconsin with John Moffitt, who made a similar decision. Been rocky for Moffitt since: http://t.co/q68Y1Vv1tV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Hopefully he actually got an education from his years at college. Nice desk job where he will have other health concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 @Grantland33: The Definition of Tough: How Chris Borland Walked Away From His Dream Job, by @billbarnwell http://t.co/BSgFlbJ60R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I watched a panel discussion on football concussions this weekend on C SPAN where it was mentioned that Pop Warner participation was down 10% in just the last five years. This is in addition to a general migration of kids from football to soccer and other sports that has been going on for at least a generation. I think the sports bigger challenge is declining enthusiasm among young men as plain fans. I have noticed that even young men who played the game don't seem to follow it with the passion I and every other guy did 20 and 30 years ago. There are still plenty of young fans and young players but I believe the trend is headed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yea, make your decision before you enter the NFL. Give another player a chance to be drafted sooner. This is absurd. He doesn't owe anyone anything. He changed his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yep b.c I go into construction sites without a helmet for my first year, then I look up the need for them after. If he didn't know that concussions are dangerous before he went to the NFL then that is stupid. It's easy for you to say because you're obviously omniscient. You're one of the lucky ones who's never worked a job for a while and realized a year or so later it wasn't what you wanted and decided to change career paths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) This is absurd. He doesn't owe anyone anything. He changed his mind. I never said he did....It's easy for you to say because you're obviously omniscient. You're one of the lucky ones who's never worked a job for a while and realized a year or so later it wasn't what you wanted and decided to change career paths.Stay on topic b.c I never said I was omniscient... So people don't know that football is just as dangerous as most other risk jobs? This isn't like other jobs, you should think hard before you decide to go this route. Edited March 17, 2015 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 All wrong. Yes, every point you made in your post is factually incorrect. The NFL reachd a sttlement withthe players to treat going forward for brain injury which will cost them at least a billion dollars. Wrong, the NFL was sued by the families of former players diagnosed with CTE or died of CTE related causes between 2006 and July, 2014. The ruling specifically stated the NFL is NOT responsible for any compensation before or after those dates, and not responsible for CTE moving forward unless they test positive for Lou Gerhig's Disease, Alzheimer's or dementia. In other words, the NFL could care less if Daryl Talley shoots himself in the head, and if he does they won't give his estate a penny. Anyway, all experts agree that it is the sum of hundreds of sub-concussive blows has the cumulative affecgt on the brain. It's likely that all of this in game and post game protocol is ultimately meaningless OK, so now you are arguing against yourself, saying the league's laughable "protocol" is meaningless. Well, yes, I guess this is your first true statement. Way to go. what else is the league supposed to do at this point? Uh, actually make rule changes that are substantial, like using soft helmets and soft padding, to prevent repeated brain trauma. Put together a marketing campaign of CTE awareness to raise money for the cause...and then match the funds. Actually put together league funded programs to help former players suffering with CTE, and pay their medical bills in cases of financial hardship. These are just for starters, but you've got to start somewhere. Weird post.... Couldn't have said it better myself. Your post was complete and utter nonsense...and probably just for the troll purpose of pissing people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 It's easy for you to say because you're obviously omniscient. You're one of the lucky ones who's never worked a job for a while and realized a year or so later it wasn't what you wanted and decided to change career paths. Well, "realizing it's not what you wanted and deciding to change career paths" is a bit easier after you have first secured over a million bucks in a year from your employer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Well, "realizing it's not what you wanted and deciding to change career paths" is a bit easier after you have first secured over a million bucks in a year from your employer... It certainly makes the decision easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) \ Yes, every point you made in your post is factually incorrect. Wrong, the NFL was sued by the families of former players diagnosed with CTE or died of CTE related causes between 2006 and July, 2014. The ruling specifically stated the NFL is NOT responsible for any compensation before or after those dates, and not responsible for CTE moving forward unless they test positive for Lou Gerhig's Disease, Alzheimer's or dementia. In other words, the NFL could care less if Daryl Talley shoots himself in the head, and if he does they won't give his estate a penny. OK, so now you are arguing against yourself, saying the league's laughable "protocol" is meaningless. Well, yes, I guess this is your first true statement. Way to go. Uh, actually make rule changes that are substantial, like using soft helmets and soft padding, to prevent repeated brain trauma. Put together a marketing campaign of CTE awareness to raise money for the cause...and then match the funds. Actually put together league funded programs to help former players suffering with CTE, and pay their medical bills in cases of financial hardship. These are just for starters, but you've got to start somewhere. Couldn't have said it better myself. Your post was complete and utter nonsense...and probably just for the troll purpose of pissing people off. Wrong again . The fund is unprecedented, no other pro league offers anything to it's brain injured players past or future. It was a class action suit with 5000 assigned to the class. "Start soemwhere"? It's a billion dollars set aside. It funds this: The proposed settlement provides for three benefits: 1. Baseline medical exams for retired NFL players; 2. Monetary awards for diagnoses of ALS (Lou Gehrig’s disease), Alzheimer’s Disease, Parkinson’s Disease, Dementia and certain cases of chronic traumatic encephalopathy or CTE (a neuropathological finding) diagnosed after death; and 3. Education programs and initiatives related to football safety.All valid claims for injury will be paid in full for 65 years.Retired players, their legal representatives and family members do not have to prove that the players’ injuries were caused by playing NFL football to get money from the Settlement. It includes the following: Retired NFL Football Players: All living NFL Football players who, prior to July 7, 2014, (1) have retired, formally or informally, from playing professional football with the NFL or any Member Club, including AFL, World League of American Football, NFL Europe League and NFL Europa League players, or (2) were formerly on any roster, including preseason, regular season, or postseason, of any such Member Club or league and no longer are under contract to a Member Club and are not seeking active employment as a player with any Member Club, whether signed to a roster or signed to any practice squad, developmental squad, or taxi squad of a Member Club. The only players not included are current players. If Talley kills himself and is found to have CTE, his wife will be compensated. He will fall into "Subclass 1";;Retired NFL Football Players who were not diagnosed with ALS, Parkinson’s Disease, Alzheimer’s Disease, Level 2 Neurocognitive Impairment (i.e., moderate Dementia), Level 1.5 Neurocognitive Impairment (i.e., early Dementia) or Death with CTE prior to July 7, 2014, and their Representative Claimants and Derivative Claimants. I'm not contradicting myself--just pointing out the likely futility of medicine to alter the course of this disease by treating or screening for obvious concussions. Your agitation for "awareness" is meaning less in the NFL. Also, no player in the NFL is currently unaware of the dangers of the sport he plays in regard to traumatic brain injury. You don't even believe that, yet you want some sort of advertisement matching funds, or something. Edited March 17, 2015 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 "blah, blah, blah...idiocy, more idiocy, trolling, trolling, trolling..." I'm sorry, but your just not worthy of my attention any further. Putting you on silent. Have a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 It almost angers me knows he took a job from someone that actually wanted it. Make your decisions before you leave college, don't ruin another guys chances of being picked in at spot then just abruptly leave.Oh give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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