BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I wonder if Chip Kelly has stopped laughing at us yet, especially after seeing this trade. Whaley has done some nice things here and there, but he needs to go. The Bills need a GM who understands positional value and the salary cap if they want to compete with the big boys. This guy is just winging it. there are some who question Chip's moves, and until games are played we will see who got the better of the deal. Lets see who Chip gets to replace Shady before the laughing begins or ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Maybe they want Cobb or draft a WR.For the Browns... They need at least 3 WRs and have ultra cap space and many draft needs. They are going to have a very hard time getting a decent FA WR to go there with their QB situation. A 4th rd pick for Marshall, who has played with mccown, is a no brainer IMO. Farmer truly is asleep or stupid. Edited March 6, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) For the Browns... They need at least 3 WRs and have ultra cap space and many draft needs. They are going to have a very hard time getting a decent FA WR to go there with their QB situation. A 4th rd pick for Marshall, who has played with mccown, is a no brainer IMO. Farmer truly is asleep or stupid. Maybe but they might also think they have bigger problems then a WR. WR can only catch passes if the QB throws to him and it needs to be accurately. Other positions that big money can be used for. Edited March 6, 2015 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Lol the worrying about Mariota going the Jets. Good luck with that Jets. Good luck with your overpaid 31 year old MLB (calm down on that too people) and your 31 year old downside of his career coming off a punctured lung WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Brother in law is a Bears season ticket holder. Very glad to be rid of Marshall, says he's a cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Marshall is a good player and will put up some stats on highlight reel long balls from Geno but he just never scared me when he was on the Dolphins. He's good though. They surely aren't keeping Harvin now. Chan will get some offense out of them but they look like a .500 team to me, like the Dolphins do, even with Suh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 i can't believe the Browns or Raiders with zero at WR couldn't offer at least a 4th. Seems crazy. I can't believe the Colts with over $40M+ in cap space and an elite QB wouldn't target him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) So, Brandon Marshal, a 31 year old receiver coming off back to back to back Pro Bowls in 2011-13 nets a fifth rounder. And an injured linebacker we don't need netted us the 2013 rushing champion who had more yards last year in a down year than any Bills rusher since Travis Henry in 2003. Anyone still want to debate the McCoy trade? Ummm yea.... Sounds like we should have given up a 6th rounder, using your logic. This is good for the East, I thought the Jets were going to be smart and spend this money on root pieces of defense and offense... Instead they grab another WR with a big cap hit... This is good for the East, I thought the Jets Bills were going to be smart and spend this money on root pieces of defense and offense... Instead they grab another WR RB with a big cap hit... Edited March 6, 2015 by peterpan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Someone just said, that Schefter just said, that the Bills were also talking to the Bears about trading for Marshall. If true, I'm kind of glad to hear that. I don't think Marshall would necessarily be a great fit, although 10x better than Hogan, but I like it because if true, the Bills are considering throwing the ball downfield a little more than it sounds with all the ground and pound talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Someone just said, that Schefter just said, that the Bills were also talking to the Bears about trading for Marshall. If true, I'm kind of glad to hear that. I don't think Marshall would necessarily be a great fit, although 10x better than Hogan, but I like it because if true, the Bills are considering throwing the ball downfield a little more than it sounds with all the ground and pound talk. the whole ground and pound thing to me is overplayed. Yes, they said it. But I think it refers to being able to run the ball very effectively because everyone knows we don't have an elite QB to rely on the passing game. For example Kyle Orton threw the ball 55 times in Denver. We barely lost that game. If we'd been able to run the ball we would have won. I don't think it means we won't pass, especially with Sammy and especially with play action. It won't be "3 yards and a cloud of dust" IMO like some have implied. They are going to use McCoy in the passing game too, I think. I believe they just know they absolutely have to establish a running game that opponents respect and fear in order to compete offensively with the teams who do have the elite QB. Edited March 6, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Ummm yea.... Sounds like we should have given up a 6th rounder, using your logic. This is good for the East, I thought the Jets Bills were going to be smart and spend this money on root pieces of defense and offense... Instead they grab another WR RB with a big cap hit... RB>WR and it isn't even close. Dear god it isn't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 the whole ground and pound thing to me is overplayed. Yes, they said it. But I think it refers to being able to run the ball very effectively because everyone knows we don't have an elite QB to rely on the passing game. For example Kyle Orton threw the ball 55 times in Denver. We barely lost that game. If we'd been able to run the ball we would have won. I don't think it means we won't pass, especially with Sammy and especially with play action. It won't be "3 yards and a cloud of dust" IMO like some have implied. They are going to use McCoy in the passing game too, I think. I believe they just know they absolutely have to establish a running game that opponents respect and fear in order to compete offensively with the teams who do have the elite QB. Yup. I also think I read that the 49ers averaged 30 passes a game under Roman's power run attack. That's enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) RB>WR and it isn't even close. Dear god it isn't even close. Grudgingly agree. To a point. WR = 5-8 touches per game (and really its targets, not receptions). RB = 18-25 touches per game. Yes, RBs are devalued in this league, but WR is becoming devalued too, very fast, with all the talk of the rookie WRs being able to come in and contribute right away. I understand there are other effects a good WR, or a "big" WR, can have without touching, but still. So can a good RB. Like Adrian Peterson, who commands 11 in the box. Edited March 6, 2015 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioRV Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Supposedly the Bills were in on Brandon Marshall as well. That is what Buffalo Rumbling is saying that Schefter said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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