thebyrdman31 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Here is what Cole had to say, via SB Nation: "This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else." http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Seems like QBs are getting worse IMO. NFL will have to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Interesting. Would they then be willing to trade the 1st overall pick to StL for Bradford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Seems like QBs are getting worse IMO. NFL will have to adapt. Or this year's class has risks, either off-field (Winston) or just aren't judged as talented enough to take with a top 5 pick (Mariota). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Interesting. Would they then be willing to trade the 1st overall pick to StL for Bradford? i think the point is they feel better with bradford plus the top player in the draft than with marriota/winston plus whatever the savings on a rookie vs bradford would be (say winston and jerry hughes vs bradford and the guy they pick). i didnt read it as theyd rather pay bradford AND use the pick on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 the league has a QB problem in general. Not nearly enough good ones capable of producing at the next level. If you can run the ball at will and have a stout defense you can essentially get by with an average QB. But the teams with the elite QB's will always dominate. As it stand right now 1/3 of the league has above average QB situation, and only a handful have "elite QB's", the rest are desperately trying to find one, and more teams will fail trying to find one then succeed in doing so. Use to be a time where there was always a top QB worthy of drafting, now it seems like more years than not the top QB's are more likely to fail or underwhelm for their draft position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 would you guys do our 2 for bradford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 the league has a QB problem in general. Not nearly enough good ones capable of producing at the next level. If you can run the ball at will and have a stout defense you can essentially get by with an average QB. But the teams with the elite QB's will always dominate. As it stand right now 1/3 of the league has above average QB situation, and only a handful have "elite QB's", the rest are desperately trying to find one, and more teams will fail trying to find one then succeed in doing so. Use to be a time where there was always a top QB worthy of drafting, now it seems like more years than not the top QB's are more likely to fail or underwhelm for their draft position. Part of that is the combination of 1) the rampant use of Spread and Option offenses in College 2) Players leaving earlier 3) Players expected to play and perform at a high level year 1 on a team with little surrounding talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Or this year's class has risks, either off-field (Winston) or just aren't judged as talented enough to take with a top 5 pick (Mariota). I'm talking franchise guys that can actually throw from the pocket. Maybe 1 guy since 2008? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Just teams dispersing bad info to try and get other teans to take Bradford and give them a shot at Winston or mariotta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) would you guys do our 2 for bradford? Yes. I think that is the point of the article. These teams are saying the would rather take the bpa with their first and trade a later pick for Bradford. IF this trend continues with sub par QB's coming out of college, look for the NFL to start to play with rules to compensate. IN 5 years we will be left with very few great QB's Edited February 9, 2015 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) I'm talking franchise guys that can actually throw from the pocket. Maybe 1 guy since 2008? Guys I'd have liked the Bills to pick since 2008: (I know we weren't in the position to take some of them, but that's okay) 2008: Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan (though I'd argue he isn't really a franchise QB) 2009: Matt Stafford (same as Matt Ryan) 2012: Andrew Luck 2014: (1 year, jury is obviously still out) David Carr, Teddy Bridgewater Edited February 9, 2015 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 the league has a QB problem in general. Not nearly enough good ones capable of producing at the next level. If you can run the ball at will and have a stout defense you can essentially get by with an average QB. But the teams with the elite QB's will always dominate. As it stand right now 1/3 of the league has above average QB situation, and only a handful have "elite QB's", the rest are desperately trying to find one, and more teams will fail trying to find one then succeed in doing so. Use to be a time where there was always a top QB worthy of drafting, now it seems like more years than not the top QB's are more likely to fail or underwhelm for their draft position. This is the problem with the league changing the rules so far in the direction of helping the passing game. They've increased the delta between a good, smart QB and a not so-good/smart QB to astronomical proportions. There is almost no way for a team w/o a good QB to compete at a high level any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Seems like QBs are getting worse IMO. NFL will have to adapt. I created an entire thread on that topic. Hope you contributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Guys I'd have liked the Bills to pick since 2008: (I know we weren't in the position to take some of them, but that's okay) 2008: Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan (though I'd argue he isn't really a franchise QB) 2009: Matt Stafford (same as Matt Ryan) 2012: Andrew Luck 2014: (1 year, jury is obviously still out) David Carr, Teddy Bridgewater I see 1 true franchise QB since 2008. I like Teddy Bridgewater's potential though. Ryan and Flacco the last true franchise QBs. And Luck obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I see 1 true franchise QB since 2008. I like Teddy Bridgewater's potential though. Ryan and Flacco the last true franchise QBs. And Luck obviously. Yeah, Flacco and Luck are definitely the headliners. And goodness, I think I said David instead of Derek Carr LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Here it comes the articles to try and get the top teams to not draft a potential franchise QB. I bet Chip Kelly will pay lots of money for bad mouthing of Mariota so he can hopefully drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Here it comes the articles to try and get the top teams to not draft a potential franchise QB. I bet Chip Kelly will pay lots of money for bad mouthing of Mariota so he can hopefully drop.worked last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Guys I'd have liked the Bills to pick since 2008: (I know we weren't in the position to take some of them, but that's okay) 2008: Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan (though I'd argue he isn't really a franchise QB) 2009: Matt Stafford (same as Matt Ryan) 2012: Andrew Luck 2014: (1 year, jury is obviously still out) David Carr, Teddy Bridgewater Interesting. You really wouldn't state Stafford or Ryan are franchise QB's? I think they are both certainly quarterbacks who can be built around and have proved to will their teams to wins. More so, I wouldn't outright say those two aren't and Flacco is. I think they're all on the same level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Interesting. You really wouldn't state Stafford or Ryan are franchise QB's? I think they are both certainly quarterbacks who can be built around and have proved to will their teams to wins.More so, I wouldn't outright say those two aren't and Flacco is. I think they're all on the same level. Stafford like Culpepper has the most unstoppable receiver in football. I think Stafford is a good QB though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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