ko12010 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Get Marrone the F*** out of here and bring in Harbaugh. Would instantly jolt this franchise back into relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Why wasn't Pears benched? No joke. I am so sick of watching his late blocks and the crap he does after a play. I get that Pears is frustrated he stinks and can't block but he needs to use his words not hands to display his feelings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Get Marrone the F*** out of here and bring in Harbaugh. Would instantly jolt this franchise back into relevance. Kinda agree. JH I would think would want a ton of cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Marrone either didn't notice but should have. Or noticed and participated. He prides himself on being involved in all three phases of the team. Has said it flat out over and over. Has said all defensive calls go through him (although I doubt he overrules many if any). He started day one saying he is completely involved on all sides. If he is going to be that guy, he has to know and he has to either overrule or take responsibility for it. If he is not going to be that guy, then he is like Chan who allows the defense to do everything on its own, and resulted in Chan getting fired. This isn't to say one way is better than the other. But Marrone himself is the guy that decided and stated that he was going to be the all three phases guy, evebn though he would spend more time with the offense. He needs to know that Hughes is not in. And it's bull **** because he did know. he said yesterday that "I thought we should sit him down a little while and let him calm down" or something just like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) Marrone either didn't notice but should have. Or noticed and participated. He prides himself on being involved in all three phases of the team. Has said it flat out over and over. Has said all defensive calls go through him If he actually said that, it's flat out bullschit. Complete and utter crap. Just from a game-day, time management stanpoint, it's impossible. If he said it from a game-planning standpoint, I can believe it. But not on gamedays. Not even close. GO BILLS!!! Edited December 8, 2014 by K-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) [/size] If he actually said that, it's flat out bullschit. Complete and utter crap. Just from a game-day, time management stanpoint, it's impossible. If he said it from a game-planning standpoint, I can believe it. But not on gamedays. Not even close. GO BILLS!!! Q: Has there been a change to who is call the plays? A: No. All the plays on offense, defense and special teams go through me. I'm on all three phases. That was after the KC game. http://www.syracuse....transcript.html Edited December 8, 2014 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhDozeBills Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Wow, this is a big deal to me. Marrone is either incompetent or a liar. I think the guy is a little too honest with the media anyway, so I'm assuming he had no clue his best pass rusher was sitting on the sidelines and that scares me. I noticed Lawson was in for at least one huge run as well. A quality head coach does not miss something like this and it makes me wonder how much (or little) of a handle he has on the team. The media needs to ask him straight up how a HC doesn't realize his best pass rusher is on the sidelines for almost half the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) Denver in a position to run it..jerry doesn't play the run very well in fact he's exposed no reason for 55 to play at that point Edited December 8, 2014 by CardinalScotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Denver in a position to run it..jerry doesn't play the run very well in fact he's exposed no reason for 55 to play at that point Hughes has been very good all year against the run. That is total nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Denver in a position to run it..jerry doesn't play the run very well in fact he's exposed no reason for 55 to play at that point my gut says hughes has played better against the run than lawson most of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 That was after the KC game. http://www.syracuse....transcript.html He's either lying or is a defensive savant who should devote himself to defense full time given the results the last two years. I refuse to believe, knowing the logistics involved, that defensive calls flow from Schwartz to him back to Schwartz and then to whatever defensive player is wearing the green dot on his helmet all within the time allowed on the playclock. And that assumes Schwartz doesn't have another coach talking into the players helmet. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 He's either lying or is a defensive savant who should devote himself to defense full time given the results the last two years. I refuse to believe, knowing the logistics involved, that defensive calls flow from Schwartz to him back to Schwartz and then to whatever defensive player is wearing the green dot on his helmet all within the time allowed on the playclock. And that assumes Schwartz doesn't have another coach talking into the players helmet. GO BILLS!!! I have said this dozens of times here over the last several years, that I think Russ Brandon is very, very good at his job, but I don't believe a word he says. I like Brandon, I hope and believe he stays on the job and keeps doing what he's doing. I just don't believe him at all when he talks. That's mostly from being in the film and tv business, parsing words for a living, hearing all kinds of PR bull ****, as well as knowing how hard it is to be completely honest when speaking in press conferences. And Marrone, too, right from the start, tried to be a little different, tried to think before he spoke, tried to be honest, or so it seemed. I liked him at first. I gave him (and still give him) the benefit of the doubt as a coach, until he shows me that either he is good enough to stick or not good enough so he needs to go. But it's getting harder and harder to believe him as the two years have gone on. And at first I thought it was impossible for him to really hold grudges; now I think it's entirely possible. I think the two biggest problems this team has had this year is a lack of good QBing, and a glaring offensive philosophy problem, which is all on Marrone. He does a lot of stuff I like out of my HC. We shall see what happens in the next few games. But I'm starting to lose faith in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Marrone either didn't notice but should have. Or noticed and participated. He prides himself on being involved in all three phases of the team. Has said it flat out over and over. Has said all defensive calls go through him (although I doubt he overrules many if any). He started day one saying he is completely involved on all sides. If he is going to be that guy, he has to know and he has to either overrule or take responsibility for it. If he is not going to be that guy, then he is like Chan who allows the defense to do everything on its own, and resulted in Chan getting fired. This isn't to say one way is better than the other. But Marrone himself is the guy that decided and stated that he was going to be the all three phases guy, evebn though he would spend more time with the offense. He needs to know that Hughes is not in. And it's bull **** because he did know. he said yesterday that "I thought we should sit him down a little while and let him calm down" or something just like that. What's amazing to me outside of his either ignorance or brazen bullshitting is he simultaneously managed to throw two of our most important pieces under the bus to save face with a press corps that already doesn't like him. It makes no sense to throw Pepper Johnson under the bus, or Hughe$. As coach I would hope he'd have the mentality to go down with the ship he built... guess he's a coward on top of being a terrible game manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 my gut says hughes has played better against the run than lawson most of the year Lawson pretty much single handedly cost us the KC game with his run defense (not staying home). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Lawson pretty much single handedly cost us the KC game with his run defense (not staying home). Absolutely, if anyone is arguing Lawson is better against the run they're watching film from 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 What's amazing to me outside of his either ignorance or brazen bullshitting is he simultaneously managed to throw two of our most important pieces under the bus to save face with a press corps that already doesn't like him. It makes no sense to throw Pepper Johnson under the bus, or Hughe$. As coach I would hope he'd have the mentality to go down with the ship he built... guess he's a coward on top of being a terrible game manager. Thrown under the bus? I don't know if I disagree with taking Hughes out, so if Marrone and co. believe it was the right thing to do, he's not throwing anyone under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 What's amazing to me outside of his either ignorance or brazen bullshitting is he simultaneously managed to throw two of our most important pieces under the bus to save face with a press corps that already doesn't like him. It makes no sense to throw Pepper Johnson under the bus, or Hughe$. As coach I would hope he'd have the mentality to go down with the ship he built... guess he's a coward on top of being a terrible game manager. Don't know if he was throwing PJ under the bus here. Hughes and PJ have gotten into it before. Hughes doesn't discriminate when it comes to expressing himself to his coaches. It's perfectly within reason for me to believe that Pepper Johnson got in Hughes' earhole about another bad penalty and Hughes, given his penchant for highly charged emotional input (that's a good thing for a DE, btw), shouted right back. There ARE times Hughes needs to calm down, Marrone's penchant for bullschitting notwithstanding. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Thrown under the bus? I don't know if I disagree with taking Hughes out, so if Marrone and co. believe it was the right thing to do, he's not throwing anyone under the bus. Whether true or not, putting it on Pepper Johnson in the way he did is the definition of throwing him under the bus. He even scolded him through the press, "it should have come through me," -- that's weak. Benching Hughes and pleading ignorance about it when it cost the team 7, if not 10 points, is also weak... but probably not throwing him under the bus. You're right there. But it sure makes it harder to keep Jerry around next year if you take a passionate player off the field for being passionate in the biggest game of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRM33064 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Jerry Hughes on tap to be the best scout DE next week. I heard Coach needs Jerry's roster spot for some other type of kicker. One that's really good at onside kicks. Or tiddlywinks. Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) Whether true or not, putting it on Pepper Johnson in the way he did is the definition of throwing him under the bus. He even scolded him through the press, "it should have come through me," -- that's weak. Benching Hughes and pleading ignorance about it when it cost the team 7, if not 10 points, is also weak... but probably not throwing him under the bus. You're right there. But it sure makes it harder to keep Jerry around next year if you take a passionate player off the field for being passionate in the biggest game of the year. I mean, yeah. But I bet Hughes would be the first to tell you he shouldn't have gotten yet another PF. I think you can spin it anyway you want, if Marrone says it's on him that his staff yanked him, then we could say he's blind to the faults of his coaching staff. It's a little press thing in Buffalo. I'd be surprised if anyone in the media remembers what Pep did by week 17. Edited December 8, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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