My preview of the Dolphins game

[The Big Cat]

Also with regards to Tannehill, why don't we discuss him relative to the Bills quarterback who beat him twice last year, yet remains out of a job.

[finfanfromrochester]

Good luck with your hopes and dreams, If I were a fish fan I'd be staying awake at nights wondering why they play the Bills this week of all weeks.. Our Defense is much better than you give them credit for, you act as though Miami is just going to some how wear them down and own them late in the game and If that is what your basing your predicted win on then good luck with that, the intensity and pressure will come all day long from our defense and the 12th man I can promise you that much. Yes you have a good team, but this is just not going to be your week, our offense is full of home run hitters, and I'm pretty sure the coaching staff will account for wake and give him help with chip blocks and double teams. It will be a good game not doubt, but to say your going to wear them down is not something you should pin your hopes on..

 

What it really comes down to for me is this:

 

Which offense will struggle more against which defense?

 

If you're going off last year, you guys take the win hands down. But this is a new squad. New offense, new enthusiasm. Pretty much all aspects of our team are improved.

 

Your D is overall better than ours, but I believe our O is better than yours. I just don't have faith that Manuel is the real deal. So as long as we can stop the run, which is not guaranteed at all, we have the better shot in my opinion.

[YoloinOhio]

Also with regards to Tannehill, why don't we discuss him relative to the Bills quarterback who beat him twice last year, yet remains out of a job.

THADDEUS The Dolphin Killer

[Kelly the Dog]

Well, with all do respect, one of us is most definitely out of our minds it appears.

 

Let me start with WR. Mike Wallace is better than any of your WRs, easily. Brian Hartline probably is too, but I won't try and make that argument. So there we automatically win the WR convo with Mike Wallace alone.

 

RBs you win no doubt, but with Moreno it's closer than it would have been.

 

LT comment is pretty much a joke, as Branden Albert is probably better than Glenn, but I'll call them equal for the sake of this argument.

 

and quite frankly your QB comment is laughable as well. anyone with any knowledge on the NFL would take Tannehill over Manuel, it's not even a question. That's not me being a biased fan, that's just reality. And I'm not even making the argument that Tanne is amazing, because he clearly is not even close -- yet. But to claim he's worse than Manuel, who hasn't even played a full NFL season, is delusional.

There is not a GM in the league who would take Mike Wallace, Brian Hartline, Brandon Gibson and Jarvis Nobody over Sammy Watkins, Mike Williams, Robert Woods and Marquis Goodwin. Not one.

 

Glenn is already better than Alpert. He gave up 1.5 sacks last year and dominated in both the run and pass game and completely dominated Wake when they played.

 

As far as the QBs are concerned, I would take Tannehill over EJ right now, too. But what I said was they were both erratic and unproven, which they are.

[thebandit27]

Randy Starks is one of the best DTs in the league, and Earl Mitchell absolutely dominated last week, so I wouldn't look past either of them.

 

I think if Tannehill is on point this week, the Dolphins most definitely have the advantage. The Dolphins are going to be stacking the box all day, forcing EJ to use his arm. So if it comes down to Tanne vs. EJ, then I'm taking the Phins 10 times out of 10.

 

Cam Wake should also have a field day on your 7th round rookie tackle, and if he's opposite Cam then Vernon isn't a much easier task. I forsee at least one or two turnovers by EJ by the end of the game due to pressure from them.

 

The second half is where the Dolphins have the ability to break the game open, though. As long as our oline can hold its own and keep Tanne upright, I don't see Bills overcoming the odds to win it. Even with the major home field advantage. Our D is just too much for your O to handle.

 

Our LB core is the weakest link, and even they played lights out last week, Should be a good game until about the mid 3rd quarter in my opinion. Then I forsee the Bills O self imploding.

 

I'm not sure about most of this...

 

Randy Starks is one of the best DTs in the league, and Earl Mitchell absolutely dominated last week, so I wouldn't look past either of them.

 

Did Starks play in either of the two Buf-Mia games last year, or was he injured? I can't remember. I do remember Buffalo gashing Miami for 203 yards on the ground in Week 16, so I'm not confident that Miami's DTs are as stout as you're claiming. There's also the factor that Buffalo's OL is improved from the Legursky days.

 

I think if Tannehill is on point this week, the Dolphins most definitely have the advantage. The Dolphins are going to be stacking the box all day, forcing EJ to use his arm. So if it comes down to Tanne vs. EJ, then I'm taking the Phins 10 times out of 10.

 

Stacking the box is incredibly dangerous against this receiving corps. You NEED to double Sammy Watkins; manning up is not an option. Simple math then says you're in single coverage on both Mike Williams and Robert Woods, which Buffalo will take any day of the week (unless you're meaning using less than 8 to stack the box, in which case that's not stacking the box, and that's how Buffalo gashed Miami on the ground last year).

 

Cam Wake should also have a field day on your 7th round rookie tackle, and if he's opposite Cam then Vernon isn't a much easier task. I forsee at least one or two turnovers by EJ by the end of the game due to pressure from them.

 

Lamarr Houston and Jared Allen had no such "field day", and I wouldn't sleep on Henderson. He fell to the 7th round because of character concerns, not ability concerns. Most scouts felt he was a 1st rounder based on ability, and everything we've seen so far says he's playing up the that potential.

 

The second half is where the Dolphins have the ability to break the game open, though. As long as our oline can hold its own and keep Tanne upright, I don't see Bills overcoming the odds to win it. Even with the major home field advantage. Our D is just too much for your O to handle.

 

Until I see the same D that lost twice to Thad Lewis step up against Buffalo's running game, I'll have a hard time believing they're somehow too much to handle. I also need to see this new OL find a way to block a defensive line that is far, far superior in talent to Miami's OL, boasting 3 pro bowlers plus a double-digit sack player. That little note about "as long as Tannehill stays upright" is far too glossed over when you're facing the team with the 2nd best pass rush in the NFL last year.

 

Our LB core is the weakest link, and even they played lights out last week, Should be a good game until about the mid 3rd quarter in my opinion. Then I forsee the Bills O self imploding.

 

I'll be interested to see if Miami's banged up LBs can hold up against Buffalo's oversized OL that battered Chicago into submission last week. My guess is no...I'm thinking we're looking at another 200-yard rushing day if that's the case.

[Lothar]

Also as Yolo pointed out in the shout box:

Wake had 1 tackle and 1 QB Hit in the 1st meeting last year. Mario had 3 TFL, 2 sacks and 2 QB hits. In the 2nd game, Wake had 3 tackles, 0 sacks and 0 QB hits.Mario had 1 TFL, 1 sack and 1 QB hit.

 

Now tell me again who should be more worried?

[finfanfromrochester]

Seriously, do you not even know your own players? Trusnik who has started all of 5 games in 4 years in Miami, and has recorded a whopping 72 tackles in 4 years is going to be your saviour in the middle?

 

why try and twist my words?

 

I clearly said he's been on the team 4 years, not started. OP said street free agents...so they are clearly wrong there. dude is a freaking captain. and he looked good last week, good enough at least.

 

Also as Yolo pointed out in the shout box:

Wake had 1 tackle and 1 QB Hit in the 1st meeting last year. Mario had 3 TFL, 2 sacks and 2 QB hits. In the 2nd game, Wake had 3 tackles, 0 sacks and 0 QB hits.Mario had 1 TFL, 1 sack and 1 QB hit.

 

Now tell me again who should be more worried?

 

Wow. against 5 OL that aren't playing this week lol.

 

We have a new, much much better oline. Whats the point of saying what Williams did to Tyson Clabo and Jonathan Martin last year lol?

[The Big Cat]

why try and twist my words?

 

I clearly said he's been on the team 4 years, not started. OP said street free agents...so they are clearly wrong there. dude is a freaking captain. and he looked good last week, good enough at least.

 

 

 

Wow. against 5 OL that aren't playing this week lol.

 

We have a new, much much better oline. Whats the point of saying what Williams did to Tyson Clabo and Jonathan Martin last year lol?

 

I'm curious why you keep equating this word 'new' with the word 'better,'

 

New England's front is lousy. And against them they did just okay.

[finfanfromrochester]

hmmmm

 

Forget the Hartline comment. Skill wise Watkins is obviously better, but not yet in his career.

[YoloinOhio]

why try and twist my words?

 

I clearly said he's been on the team 4 years, not started. OP said street free agents...so they are clearly wrong there. dude is a freaking captain. and he looked good last week, good enough at least.

 

 

 

Wow. against 5 OL that aren't playing this week lol.

 

We have a new, much much better oline. Whats the point of saying what Williams did to Tyson Clabo and Jonathan Martin last year lol?

Maybe the point was what Wake did against what is essentially the same OL - and Henderson replacing Pears is an upgrade.

[Kelly the Dog]

why try and twist my words?

 

I clearly said he's been on the team 4 years, not started. OP said street free agents...so they are clearly wrong there. dude is a freaking captain. and he looked good last week, good enough at least.

 

 

 

Wow. against 5 OL that aren't playing this week lol.

 

We have a new, much much better oline. Whats the point of saying what Williams did to Tyson Clabo and Jonathan Martin last year lol?

You're right for once, lets stick to the point of what Cam Wake did against the Bills last year. And try not to say what he is going to do against the 7th round pick, because that 7th round pick easily beat out the guy that completely shut Wake down in two games last year when opposite him. IIRC, they moved Wake around and he couldn't get by Glenn or Pears in two different games.

[YoloinOhio]

Forget the Hartline comment. Skill wise Watkins is obviously better, but not yet in his career.

I am a Buckeye fan and love Hartline. I agree he is underrated. But yeah... I'd take any of our top 4 WRs over him.

[Coach Tuesday]

why try and twist my words?

 

I clearly said he's been on the team 4 years, not started. OP said street free agents...so they are clearly wrong there. dude is a freaking captain. and he looked good last week, good enough at least.

 

 

 

Wow. against 5 OL that aren't playing this week lol.

 

We have a new, much much better oline. Whats the point of saying what Williams did to Tyson Clabo and Jonathan Martin last year lol?

 

Good enough that they signed Kelvin Shepphard this week. And I mean they're the equivalent of street free agents. They are replacement-level players.

[thebandit27]

Wow. against 5 OL that aren't playing this week lol.

 

We have a new, much much better oline. Whats the point of saying what Williams did to Tyson Clabo and Jonathan Martin last year lol?

 

Which also includes your best OLmen in Pouncey. Now, you may believe that a street FA and Shelley Smith or Dallas Thomas can double up on Kyle Williams and the other OG can handle Dareus 1-on-1, but I think you'd be terribly mistaken to do so (and I doubt Miami's coaching staff would subscribe to that theory).

[YoloinOhio]

Which also includes your best OLmen in Pouncey. Now, you may believe that a street FA and Shelley Smith or Dallas Thomas can double up on Kyle Williams and the other OG can handle Dareus 1-on-1, but I think you'd be terribly mistaken to do so (and I doubt Miami's coaching staff would subscribe to that theory).

Speaking of that... Daerus a bit different than Wilfork

 

Joe Marino ‏@TheJoeMarino 7m

This is called disposing your blocker to make a play. Marcel Dareus vs. Kyle Long https://vine.co/v/OzFBqhJB2Th

[mikef272002]

Who has a better run game, Buffalo or New England? Taken in a vacuum, Buffalo. As a compliment to the passing game, probably New England, but Buffalo has much MUCH better receivers. So, I'd expect the offense (minus the heat and humidity) to perform much better than New England's did. Period. We're also at home. I don't know on what planet, based on the (admittedly small) sample set we have, the edge would go to Miami's defense over our offense.

 

On the flip side, Miami ran the ball at will against New England. This should come as no surprise since (a) the run-stuffing NT they've relied on for a decade (Wilfork) is about three years past his prime and has entered the nosedive portion of his career which was always inevitable. But more importantly (b) their best run-stuffing LB...IS NOW A BUFFALO BILL.

 

So, to me, it makes NO SENSE to say that the Miami offense is to be feared because they ran with success against New England last week.

 

 

 

Credibility, meet the open window.

 

I believe what he is "pinning" a win on is that Miami is going to wear down our defense and light it up in the 3rd and 4th quarter in the swelling 65 degree heat like they did against New England. There is no way in hell our defense will let down for one single play this weekend with the 12th man being so fired up. Sure Miami will make plays here and there but there not going to get "wore down"..

 

I think he needs to watch some tape from last year to remind himself of the inevitable. Buffalo just beat a much better Chicago team in Chicago, I would argue Chicago has a much more explosive offense with Forte, Marshall, Jeffery, Bennett and Holmes. New England is starting to show it has slowed down on offense and Defense from years past, not just based on the Miami game, but going back to last year also.

 

I expect it to be a good game only because our offense will hold us back a bit with Miami's above average defense, but in the end it's going to come down to defense and the Bills win 24 - 17 with the defense scoring or setting up a score.

[Kelly the Dog]

Good enough that they signed Kelvin Shepphard this week. And I mean they're the equivalent of street free agents. They are replacement-level players.

I'm not sure that Kelvin Sheppard could have even appeared in the movie, "The Replacements," and yet the Fins signed him.

[finfanfromrochester]

I'm curious why you keep equating this word 'new' with the word 'better,'

 

New England's front is lousy. And against them they did just okay.

 

Dude. we gave up 58 sacks last year. 5 unpeeled potatoes could've protected Tannehill better. Our new oline is better simply by default. But i've been amazed at how good they are actually gelling together. Once Pouncey is back in week 3 or 4, it's going to be even better.

[HamSandwhich]

Finfan is obviously a home with no intention to have a serious conversation. Ignore this guy.

[Lothar]

why try and twist my words?

 

I clearly said he's been on the team 4 years, not started. OP said street free agents...so they are clearly wrong there. dude is a freaking captain. and he looked good last week, good enough at least.

 

 

 

Wow. against 5 OL that aren't playing this week lol.

 

We have a new, much much better oline. Whats the point of saying what Williams did to Tyson Clabo and Jonathan Martin last year lol?

Point taken. But our OL is definitely better than it was too, especially on the edges. And bigger. If you're counting on your defense to disrupt our offense more than the other way around, especially in Buffalo, I think you may be in for a surprise.