CodeMonkey Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I wonder if they asked the players who actually play in Buffalo. They asked 100 players so I would assume 3 from every team plus a few bonus players. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 from reading up on this it wasn't surprising. most of the players who responded to this poll had not played in, or were not playing in the teams that got the votes. also weather seems to be the biggest part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Then why is Green Bay the 4th least desired place? Because there are about 12 black people in the entire state. Seriously, a friend of mine who's black and weighs ~300 pounds went there and people asked him if he played for the Packers. No state tax, nicer weather. Why is that hard to believe? This. Jax would be in my top 10 if I was a player. Edited August 25, 2014 by KD in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 The weather is bad in Buffalo? I miss it. I think the weather sucks in Jacksonville, as I find 90+ degree weather (with a heat index over 100) to be intolerable. Give me a bilzzard any day! Anybody with me? [crickets.....] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 The weather is bad in Buffalo? I miss it. I think the weather sucks in Jacksonville, as I find 90+ degree weather (with a heat index over 100) to be intolerable. Give me a bilzzard any day! Anybody with me? [crickets.....] My wife and daughter. They are avid skiers so Florida is at the bottom of their most desirable places to live. But I would take the occasional blizzard or ice storm over a hurricane any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Been all over from the west to south and right now ready come back to WNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 My wife and daughter. They are avid skiers so Florida is at the bottom of their most desirable places to live. But I would take the occasional blizzard or ice storm over a hurricane any time. St Augustine Beach has been lucky with regard to hurricanes (and now I'm regretting I put that in writing). The coast does something special here, and we miss most of the terrible storms. But I agree, I prefer a blizzard as I prefer snow to rain---AND---a blizzard is the ideal excuse to skip school, work (many jobs, anyway) and have a blizzard party! When I live in WNY my neighbors would get angry with me as I was singing and whistling, as I cleaned off my car in the morning. "WTF are you so happy about?" they'd ask. BTW, this is the same study that was cited here earlier. It didn't ask "What is the worst place to play in the NFL?" It seemingly asked "The only way I'd play for [name a team] is if they doubled my salary." Those are two very different questions, though I would agree the results from either aren't likely to be positive. They surveyed "100 pius players" and got 82 players. Was the sample representative of all NFL players? Were veterans more heavily weighted? Did rookes return at a higher rate? Let's see the the entire questionnaire. The ordering of the questions plays an important part in the answer to following questions. I could go on, but I will stop. Bottom line is, without these kinds of details, survey results are basically useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Better than I thought. Why would anyone desire to play in Buffalo? Pegula has a lot of work to do. A dome is where it starts. Edited August 25, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Then why is Green Bay the 4th least desired place? An anomaly. Green Bay is colder and far more remote than B'lo. Besides, the percentage is fairly meager. Just win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) An anomaly. Green Bay is colder and far more remote than B'lo. Besides, the percentage is fairly meager. Just win. It is no anomaly. As you noted, from a interesting place to live as well as niceness of weather perspective, GB is one of the few (maybe only) NFL cities that would rank lower than Buffalo. The reason GB ranks better than Buffalo in this particular survey is their history of winning, as well as current quality of the team. No anomaly here, perfectly explainable. Edited August 25, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Where would Buffalo rank on a list of top 100 US cities to live? Do they make the list? Edited August 25, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 This is a businesses. Players will play for who pays them. They might not want to. Might not like the town. Taxes. Etc. But they like money. Because there are about 12 black people in the entire state. Seriously, a friend of mine who's black and weighs ~300 pounds went there and people asked him if he played for the Packers. This. Jax would be in my top 10 if I was a player. well. Did he? Play for the packers? This is a businesses. Players will play for who pays them. They might not want to. Might not like the town. Taxes. Etc. But they like money. Because there are about 12 black people in the entire state. Seriously, a friend of mine who's black and weighs ~300 pounds went there and people asked him if he played for the Packers. This. Jax would be in my top 10 if I was a player. well. Did he? Play for the packers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 The hits keep on coming. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11405668/nfl-nation-confidential-oakland-raiders-least-desirable-team-play-for Yet we have a top 8 defense built by the draft as well as several free agents that chose to come here, and several that re-sign ed after their rookie contracts. Total BS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 This is a businesses. Players will play for who pays them. They might not want to. Might not like the town. Taxes. Etc. But they like money. well. Did he? Play for the packers? Charles Woodson I remember him saying he didnt want to be in Green Bay, You stick out in a small city plus the weather. But he said the only team that would pay him was GB. He said best thing to ever happen to him. I agree about the sticking out part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Seems that way. So there will always be a group of young men who don't want to be in WNY no matter what, but it's pretty obvious that organizational quality is a factor for other teams on the list. Since more and more players are from the SEC / south in general, that makes sense. A big city atmosphere can help offset some of the weather disadvantage (i.e., NYC, Boston, Toronto), but Buffalo's always going to be lumped in with the Rust Belt markets even if the record improves. Not much to see here, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 well. Did he? Play for the packers? I told him he should have worn a Packers jacket and given out autographs. Younger guys want a hip town with some culture that makes them comfortable. Buffalo and Green Bay are not high on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 82 players responded. There are 1,696 active players in the NFL. Uh.......that's just a totally useless poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Dammmmit- second worst???? Can't these guys win anything?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamnSam Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 have you ever been to Jacksonville? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) 82 players responded. There are 1,696 active players in the NFL. Uh.......that's just a totally useless poll. For most purposes, 1/√N where N is the sample size is a reasonable estimation for margin of error. So for 82 people responding that makes about 11% which isn't too horrible generally. So what that means is since the Bills came in at 19% in the survey there is a 95% probability that between 8 and 30% of the players in the NFL feel this way. This assumes, of course, that the distribution of the players surveyed is reasonable. The reality of the situation is though, that this probably only applies to players that have a choice (good players). Players being cut today for example would gladly go to the Raiders, Bills, or anyone else. Edited August 25, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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