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What is better, no guns, or more guns?


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3 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

Looks like it was a nutjob shooting off a gun in his yard. Neighbors asked him to stop, so he killed them. 
 

An armed society is one that solves arguments with bullets.

 

Gunman Kills Five People in Texas Home, Authorities Say

Just awful. Easy access to guns means a lot more innocent people just getting mowed down 

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28 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

If guns keep people safe, I wouldn’t think anyone would get murdered in Texas.

Guns work well in my neighborhood- 20+ years and the worst crime is a couple kids stealing from cars left unlocked, 6 miles away in Frost district they have murder on live tv. But to address your point, guns in good hands saves lives, guns in blue areas are deadly. 

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:

The only rights that matter happen to fall under 2A - f the rest

 

 

The shooter did not have constitutional protections for his gun rights, he is not a citizen. Do we know if he could legally have a gun? And if not why was he not arrested and sent back to Mexico on the previous occurrences that police had to deal with him? 

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26 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

The shooter did not have constitutional protections for his gun rights, he is not a citizen. Do we know if he could legally have a gun? And if not why was he not arrested and sent back to Mexico on the previous occurrences that police had to deal with him? 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

The shooter did not have constitutional protections for his gun rights, he is not a citizen. Do we know if he could legally have a gun? And if not why was he not arrested and sent back to Mexico on the previous occurrences that police had to deal with him? 

Interesting set of facts 

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18 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

To date this year 13,825 people have had their rights extinguished due to gun violence. Meanwhile, guns have been used defensively in a reported 354 incidents. From a rights perspective, it’s not even close when considering who is taking whose rights away. 
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org

When you act like suicide is equal to actual murder there is no point to discussing it. The issues are completely different and need completely different cures.

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6 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

When you act like suicide is equal to actual murder there is no point to discussing it. The issues are completely different and need completely different cures.

Access to guns extinguishes rights to life weather by murder or suicide. Presumably, the families and friends of the 7,920 people lost to gun suicide wish that their loved one didn’t have access to the weapon that ended their life.  More guns, more open carry, more stand your ground laws, etc equals more danger to all  (owner as well as others) in society. 

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2 hours ago, Andy1 said:

Access to guns extinguishes rights to life weather by murder or suicide. Presumably, the families and friends of the 7,920 people lost to gun suicide wish that their loved one didn’t have access to the weapon that ended their life.  More guns, more open carry, more stand your ground laws, etc equals more danger to all  (owner as well as others) in society. 

Presumably those with family that committed suicide don't care how they did it, simply why. More guns does not equal more danger to society since guns have been around and widely available for over 100 years and yet the danger from them has become much worse in only liberal areas over the past 40 years.

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