Wacka Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 That's right GPS doesn't work that way. Real life is not the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 40 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: This is just stupid. Not surprised. Who maintains the database? Who enforces the policy? Who provides the tracking unit? And, of course, who pays for it? The devils advocate pays for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Figster said: The devils advocate pays for it... Which would be you. Which would be those against the Constitution Maybe if those who hated freedom and the Constitution put their money where their mouth was and offered opportunities to deal with these issues there would be headway. Either way, sup hypocrite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Figster said: How about track the guns with a GPS tracking system and any gun without a tracking device gets destroyed along with a hefty fine and or jail time for tampering and removal. Its practically impossiple to track all the lunatics so track the guns. Because real life doesn't work that way. GPS tells you where YOU are. It doesn't tell you where other stuff is. People watch too many !@#$ing movies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, Boyst62 said: Which would be you. Which would be those against the Constitution Maybe if those who hated freedom and the Constitution put their money where their mouth was and offered opportunities to deal with these issues there would be headway. Either way, sup hypocrite? I watched an episode of Judge Judy not to long ago where an older fella had put an antique rifle in what basically amounted to a consignment shop the way i viewed it only to have it mysteriously stolen. The store owner/manager claimed she wasn't responsible and Judy ruled in her favor. I'm normally in agreement with Judge Judy, Whats struck me more though Jeff is how easily the gun walks right out the door and into the hands of a criminal. The root of the problem. with all due respect to you , Tasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, Figster said: I watched an episode of Judge Judy not to long ago where an older fella had put an antique rifle in what basically amounted to a consignment shop the way i viewed it only to have it mysteriously stolen. The store owner/manager claimed she wasn't responsible and Judy ruled in her favor. I'm normally in agreement with Judge Judy, Whats struck me more though Jeff is how easily the gun walks right out the door and into the hands of a criminal. The root of the problem. with all due respect to you , Tasker there are about 4040049414 things wrong with this story. 1) you were watching judge judy. it should end there, but i will assume you were getting your car inspected or other work done in which the waiting room had the television showing this. 2) the consignment shop should be held legally liable for allowing a firearm to be left unsecured - clearly, it was. 3) insurance through the shop should have covered the item 5) the argument must have been piss poor to hold the consignment not guilty. 27) that gun being in the hands of anyone is now criminal for possession of stolen goods 4040047441) there was nothing that could have been done to stop the theft of that gun with respect to the gun owner 4040049413) the root of the problem is not the gun owner, the consignment shop, or judge judy. the root of the problem is the desire of the thief. 4040049414) @26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: there are about 4040049414 things wrong with this story. 1) you were watching judge judy. it should end there, but i will assume you were getting your car inspected or other work done in which the waiting room had the television showing this. 2) the consignment shop should be held legally liable for allowing a firearm to be left unsecured - clearly, it was. 3) insurance through the shop should have covered the item 5) the argument must have been piss poor to hold the consignment not guilty. 27) that gun being in the hands of anyone is now criminal for possession of stolen goods 4040047441) there was nothing that could have been done to stop the theft of that gun with respect to the gun owner 4040049413) the root of the problem is not the gun owner, the consignment shop, or judge judy. the root of the problem is the desire of the thief. 4040049414) @26CornerBlitz The gun was in the owners gun cabinet under lock and key was Judge Judy's reasoning, The cabinet failed to secure the item safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Figster said: If you get caught without the proper tracking device one more gun is removed from the streets. The tracking device would be attatched to the barrel IMO, because a bullet can be matched up with the barrel. Bro, how’s shooting not going to destroy this GPS? Think about it mechanically....c’mon, man! Second, why would I put one on my weapon if opposed to it? I will literally lock and load over this and begin killing. There are many like me. I will kill any government agent that attempts to force me to modify my property so as to be subject to continuous government surveillance. What you’re proposing is impossible and inpractical. Now, outlawing the sale and manufacture of 80% lowers is on the table. 2 hours ago, Justice said: I came up with the same idea not too long ago and it was shot down by posters I respect. Was told that GPS doesn’t work that way. ....what good would it do to prevent these? When people do this they plan to get caught and typically go out shooting or killing themselves. A GPS isn’t going to sway them not to. And how do you think you’ll force me to put them in my guns? And who’s going to pay for them? And how will they survive the onslaught of explosions....a gun is an instrument that allows you to make an explosion in your hands and not get hurt.....how is your GPS going to survive that? And where do you get the authority to monitor and conduct surveillance on me and my property? Cause I got lots of guns that says you can’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, Figster said: The gun was in the owners gun cabinet under lock and key was Judge Judy's reasoning, The cabinet failed to secure the item safely. oh i forgot that point, if it was secured than by judy's standard the gun owner can file suit against the architects, the construction company, the safe company, the security alarm company. personal responsibility in the courts is so wildly ignored it saddens me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Bro, how’s shooting not going to destroy this GPS? Think about it mechanically....c’mon, man! Second, why would I put one on my weapon if opposed to it? I will literally lock and load over this and begin killing. There are many like me. I will kill any government agent that attempts to force me to modify my property so as to be subject to continuous government surveillance. What you’re proposing is impossible and inpractical. Now, outlawing the sale and manufacture of 80% lowers is on the table. I can understand where you are coming from, but lets say this GPS monitoring system keeps your movements private until you cross over onto School grounds. Sounds off an alarm. It does seem impossible, inpractical, true that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Figster said: I can understand where you are coming from, but lets say this GPS monitoring system keeps your movements private until you cross over onto School grounds. Sounds off an alarm. It does seem impossible, inpractical, true that. i could be 500 yards from an object and still use a gun effectively. most could. and most shootings dont occur at schools. they're at private homes. and even if you talked me in to GPS on the guns then you won't talk me in to gps on my private property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 How many of you clowns been broken into or attacked by a gun wielding thug? Answer honestly and then tell me how you having a gun in your house is called protecting yourself....FROM WHAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, KW95 said: How many of you clowns been broken into or attacked by a gun wielding thug? Answer honestly and then tell me how you having a gun in your house is called protecting yourself....FROM WHAT? what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: i could be 500 yards from an object and still use a gun effectively. most could. and most shootings dont occur at schools. they're at private homes. and even if you talked me in to GPS on the guns then you won't talk me in to gps on my private property. If I could get you into metal detecting, GPS might come in handy on your big property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: what is your point? Hey American Government, shove your guns up your asses. You deserve more mass shootings! When is it going to end? SO sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, KW95 said: Hey American Government, shove your guns up your asses. You deserve more mass shootings! ok, still not following? are you autistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KW95 said: How many of you clowns been broken into or attacked by a gun wielding thug? Answer honestly and then tell me how you having a gun in your house is called protecting yourself....FROM WHAT? Guns in every household keeps this from happening. Edited February 17, 2018 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 That last part: "So Sad" was inspired by Trump Tweets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Figster said: If I could get you into metal detecting, GPS might come in handy on your big property. i'm thinking about blacksmithing now. one of these days i'll realize thinking of hobbies is not an adequate hobby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, Figster said: I can understand where you are coming from, but lets say this GPS monitoring system keeps your movements private until you cross over onto School grounds. Sounds off an alarm. It does seem impossible, inpractical, true that. The mechanics aren’t there. How is the bang of the gun not gonna break a GPS. People are hard on guns. Then there’s the cost....you’re telling me I have to pay for something expensive to put on my guns and I have to trust the government? Nope. Not gonna fly. Ain’t gonna work. Not practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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