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As the decades pass, if I'm alone or in a crowd I no longer get paranoid. 1972 to 2014 - 42 years for me albeit at a mush less rate than I did as a teenager.

 

Wait - weren't you the one who said that the only reason people get paranoid is because it's illegal? So, that's what you were paranoid about for just under 42 years.

 

Either way, this makes me feel really stupid - instead of giving up on it around 1979 or so, I could have battled the paranoia for 30+ more years, and it would have stopped. Damn, what a waste of time it was that I didn't do that!

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if only you knew a joke when you saw it.

 

Leaving an a out of the word is a joke? I don't get it..............I do remember laughing at things that weren't funny at all when I was stoned though.

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:lol: :lol:

 

I don't know if you watch Curb, but the reunion storyline where Richards goes off on JB Smoove is hilarious.

 

You must be stoned if you missed that softball.

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I had no idea! But it looks like you might be correct!

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I'm behind in this thread as I've been running around all day, but I would be willing to bet that Sammy would LOVE Party Down. Don't fear, the scene I linked was one of the few marijuana gags in the show (there's one more involving a coffin which is even better).

 

 

 

Rumor has it Borel's Disease was a runner up.

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I'm behind in this thread as I've been running around all day, but I would be willing to bet that Sammy would LOVE Party Down. Don't fear, the scene I linked was one of the few marijuana gags in the show (there's one more involving a coffin which is even better).

 

 

Sammy has much more refined tastes than you'd think when it comes to comedy. He likes a lot of sophisticated Euro stuff and just about everything out of Iceland. For some reason he speaks whatever the heck that is, which I think is Swiss or something. Anyway, he thinks their stuff is a hoot. I just think it is weird.

 

He does like slapstick a little though and considers The 3 Stooges show and some movie called Willard which I have never seen to be among his favorites.

 

Does any of this sound like the Party show? If so I might break down and add that crappy channel which is the only channel on Earth I do not get at this point.

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I wonder what % of medical marijuana patients are really like you and what % just want to get high.

 

That is a great question and it varies tremendously by state. Some states are very easy to qualify and some very difficult. In the very difficult states it would probably turn out that 95% or so are in the program for medical reasons. In say California, I am unsure really but why let that stop me, eh? I would guess that maybe 40-50% are in it for medical purposes.

 

In Michigan, I would say about 75-80% are legit. In Michigan, the average patient age is somewhere around 50 I believe. Many skeptics see a group of 20 somethings leaving a dispensary laughing and they think everyone is scamming. That isn't the case at all. I have met probably 100 other patients and I would say only 10-15% of the people I've met may have been shaky qualifiers. Actually, making that judgement of qualification based on the way someone looks at a moment in time is not really fair. Sick people don't really try to look sick when they are in public. They typically will try to put on their best face.

 

The two subsets certainly intersect too. In other words, just because cannabis may help someone with cancer to maintain their appetite doesn't mean that that same patient may not indulge sometimes because they enjoy the sense of well being - the high. To flip it too, at some point the 20 something scammer comes to the realization that his knee injury may not hurt so bad after toking up with his buddies after the game. OMG, this stuff actually works! lol

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I don't want to preach but there is something that tripped up a lot of patients in Michigan when the medical cannabis initiative passed here. Yes, it was a 2008 ballot initiative in Michigan that won 63% to 37%

 

Anyway, be careful in discussions with your doctors. It sounds odd to say because generally they are such experts and we confide in them, but most doctors were taught only about the harmful effects of this in med school. Also, consider that most doctors were studious and weren't necessarily the most streetwise and so didn't learn a lot about cannabis growing up. Add in the fact that very few pharmaceutical companies are pushing cannabis based solutions. Doctors, with few exceptions, are not experts on cannabis based solutions. Many are very opposed.

 

Don't talk about your usage or desire to use cannabis until you have felt them out a little. Maybe the old, 'I have this friend that was talking about using cannabis to treat...' would be a good approach. If you decide to try to have a frank discussion come armed with copies of research abstracts and copies of links to recent reports.

 

Be prepared for resistance and I hate to say it, but be prepared to hear astounding ignorance stated very confidently. From their viewpoint I think they feel that they are the experts and so if they are not aware of the cannabis option, it is just some internet fluff or worse, an attempt to secure drugs from them. They may even label you a 'drug seeker'.

 

Many patients found out the hard way here in Michigan that even though the state laws changed, the doctor or more often his/her practice or hospital, had an anti-cannabis policy. Many patients were dropped outright for admitting that they used cannabis to treat the same condition their doctor was treating. Others with doctor monitored opiate dependencies were forced into periodic pee tests and if testing positive for cannabis and/or negative for opiates, were cut off from their opiate prescriptions. Sounds insane but that was not uncommon at all.

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Leaving an a out of the word is a joke? I don't get it..............I do remember laughing at things that weren't funny at all when I was stoned though.

Yeah OK

 

This doesn't suck. Virginia needs to follow suit but won't.

 

http://inthecapital....t-means-for-dc/

They will.

 

Maryland is very close to making it legal as well. Virginia won't be far behind.

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That is a great question and it varies tremendously by state. Some states are very easy to qualify and some very difficult. In the very difficult states it would probably turn out that 95% or so are in the program for medical reasons. In say California, I am unsure really but why let that stop me, eh? I would guess that maybe 40-50% are in it for medical purposes.

 

In Michigan, I would say about 75-80% are legit. In Michigan, the average patient age is somewhere around 50 I believe. Many skeptics see a group of 20 somethings leaving a dispensary laughing and they think everyone is scamming. That isn't the case at all. I have met probably 100 other patients and I would say only 10-15% of the people I've met may have been shaky qualifiers. Actually, making that judgement of qualification based on the way someone looks at a moment in time is not really fair. Sick people don't really try to look sick when they are in public. They typically will try to put on their best face.

 

The two subsets certainly intersect too. In other words, just because cannabis may help someone with cancer to maintain their appetite doesn't mean that that same patient may not indulge sometimes because they enjoy the sense of well being - the high. To flip it too, at some point the 20 something scammer comes to the realization that his knee injury may not hurt so bad after toking up with his buddies after the game. OMG, this stuff actually works! lol

 

This Orchard Park girl whose mother has been fighting for medical marijuna (wait - I left the A out, billsfan4ever is right - that IS hilarious) in NYS just died.............The stoners in the comments are laying the death at Cuomo's feet - although I'm not clear she wasn't getting marijuana from the article (I had seen previous articles about her):

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/orchard-park/orchard-park-girl-whose-family-sought-medical-marijuana-to-treat-seizures-dies-20140718

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This Orchard Park girl whose mother has been fighting for medical marijuna (wait - I left the A out, billsfan4ever is right - that IS hilarious) in NYS just died.............The stoners in the comments are laying the death at Cuomo's feet - although I'm not clear she wasn't getting marijuana from the article (I had seen previous articles about her):

 

http://www.buffalone...s-dies-20140718

 

Those comments are such bull **** because as Security so rightly pointed out that marijuana doesn't heel.

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I am inclined to agree with those that commented on the article. Political obstructionists to medical cannabis, especially in states where the people have made it clear it is wanted, do have blood on their hands. Most often (see Chris Christie as an example) they remain willfully ignorant so that they don't have to confront the fact that they have been terribly wrong. Their bullheadedness has cost people a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.

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Those comments are such bull **** because as Security so rightly pointed out that marijuana doesn't heel.

 

hahaha. So if this girl got legalized medical marijuana, she would be alive? She would be heeled? If so, this is ridiculous then. I am for medical marijuana legalized, but like I said, no reason for legalization to smoke it IMO (decriminalized).

 

There is no effing way that we would have pot withheld if it had legitimate heeling powers. The only real one I have seen is not heeling, is to help make people hungry, and there is no way pot is the only thing that can help with that.

 

I cannot say this girl would be alive still, or still would have died, all life taken before time is really sad.

 

What did this girl die from? I do not know all the details. Was it from wasting away from not eating? There are other ways, she can be fed through an IV. Was pot seriously the only thing that would help? What type of medical marijuana would this 9 year old take? Would she smoke joints? Would she eat brownies? Would the THC be taken out of the stuff she would have taken? I have been educated a little by a member, would she take oils?

 

I am inclined to agree with those that commented on the article. Political obstructionists to medical cannabis, especially in states where the people have made it clear it is wanted, do have blood on their hands. Most often (see Chris Christie as an example) they remain willfully ignorant so that they don't have to confront the fact that they have been terribly wrong. Their bullheadedness has cost people a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.

 

I just don't see how blood is on their hands. There is no proof pot will save people from what I have seen. It can help prolong life, perhaps for those with diseases, but I have not where it is a cure.

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Security, again you are very wrong. Do a little research on Dravet Syndrome or on glioma. People are uprooting their families to move to Colorado so their children can legally use this medicine. Some kids have 100 seizures in a day. With simple cannabis extract, they are down to 1 per week. Is that heeled ?? No, but with no research done on cannabinoids for so long, it damn sure is a proof of concept.

 

Did you look at the http://www.gwpharm.com site? Glioma, or brain cancer, is being treated with cannabinoids even after every other modern treatment was exhausted... AND PEOPLE ARE SURVIVING.

 

I have no reason to make this up. Take some time to read and watch and learn from the material out there.

 

I found this YouTube video that was put together in April of this year. It pieces together segments from about a dozen different documentaries and talks about many recent studies on treating various diseases with medicinal cannabis.

 

It provides a great explanation as to how cannabis can impact so many diseases.

 

It is worth your time. You don't need to watch it all in one sitting. It is over an hour, if I recall. Security, having someone close to you with Multiple Sclerosis, it is important that you understand that cannabis is medicine. You do know that cannabis medicines were all throughout the US pharmacies in the early 1900's, right? Those people didn't know everything that we know today but they were smart enough to use something that worked rather than something that didn't.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=XfO_MpDm5kc

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Security, again you are very wrong. Do a little research on Dravet Syndrome or on glioma. People are uprooting their families to move to Colorado so their children can legally use this medicine. Some kids have 100 seizures in a day. With simple cannabis extract, they are down to 1 per week. Is that heeled ?? No, but with no research done on cannabinoids for so long, it damn sure is a proof of concept.

 

Did you look at the gwpharm.com site? Glioma, or brain cancer, is being treated with cannabinoids even after every other modern treatment was exhausted... AND PEOPLE ARE SURVIVING.

 

I have no reason to make this up. Take some time to read and watch and learn from the material out there.

 

I found this YouTube video that was put together in April of this year. It pieces together segments from about a dozen different documentaries and talks about many recent studies on treating various diseases with medicinal cannabis.

 

It provides a great explanation as to how cannabis can impact so many diseases.

 

It is worth your time. You don't need to watch it all in one sitting. It is over an hour, if I recall. Security, having someone close to you with Multiple Sclerosis, it is important that you understand that cannabis is medicine. You do know that cannabis medicines were all throughout the US pharmacies in the early 1900's, right? Those people didn't know everything that we know today but they were smart enough to use something that worked rather than something that didn't.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=XfO_MpDm5kc

 

I will take a look. Thank you.

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Is it in the stoner handbook to call it cannabis when discussing this as the cure to everything?

 

It is the name of the plant. Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indica are the two main types. When it was used as medicine in US pharmacies it was called cannabis. There are plenty of pictures on the web of bottles of cannabis tincture manufactured by Eli Lilly and several other pharma companies still in existence today.

 

I prefer to use the term as it starts people on a different mental track than does 'marijuana'.

 

Check out the video (just above) and you will see how it can impact so many diseases. It will be worth your time.

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